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    Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 PLUS ?'s

    Any other reviews? I am getting close to pulling the trigger?
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    Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 PLUS ?'s

    Ouch! Glad I asked. Is there anything you liked about the tire?
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    Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 PLUS ?'s

    I am looking for Tesla owners who have first hand experience with these tires. The reviews are phenomenal but not detailed enough. Best all around tire according to many with other vehicles. I am concerned about a) ride harshness, b) if they are noisy and c) how they wear. I like...
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    Ouch! First huge repair bill.

    I live in Toronto. Owned several $100k + cars some with high performance brakes that make Teslas feel weak. Never had a bill over $2500.
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    Extended Service Agreements No Longer Transferable?

    If other companies can offer a transferable warranty and still make a profit.....why can't Tesla . it's just simply a bonehead move and there's no other way to explain!
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    Extended Service Agreements No Longer Transferable?

    Shady indeed. What is also Shady is that many other high end cars maintain transferability and tesla does not. This in and of itself is shady as well.
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    Extended Service Agreements No Longer Transferable?

    Lets see.... JD powers... What are the benefits of an extended warranty? An extended warranty is a safeguard against unexpected vehicle repairs. An extended warranty helps to ensure that repair costs are covered without undue financial stress. Many extended warranties are also transferable to...
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    Extended Service Agreements No Longer Transferable?

    ESA is not about value to you, should you decide to buy it. All you triple analytical value minded owners need to stop with the silly number crunching. It is an insurance policy providing confidence which maintains resale values and is indirectly good for new car sales as well. This is why...
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    Extended Service Agreements No Longer Transferable?

    Not true at all. Look at Range Rovers etc.
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    Extended Service Agreements No Longer Transferable?

    Who cares if you will or will not break even with the ESA. The ESA is about maintaining and increasing resale value of the car and encourages new car purchases as well as a byproduct. Other manufactures res understand this so the question remains why is it that Tesla does not?! The...
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    Extended Service Agreements No Longer Transferable?

    Can you imagine the impact on the resale value of the Model X with the Falcon doors and the power front doors? Hope the media gets a good hold of this and runs with it.
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    Extended Service Agreements No Longer Transferable?

    Where does tesla actually say ESA not ESP is non transferable. Post the quote. Not an article which could be incorrect.
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    Extended Service Agreements No Longer Transferable?

    Wait a minute! Where exactly does it say the ESA is not transferable? In going back & reading what was posted originally I see the ESP is not Transferable NOT the ESA. Can someone clarify? Post where it says this please>
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    Extended Service Agreements No Longer Transferable?

    This is an enormous bonehead move from Tesla brass. Many people I've recommended the car to voiced concern over depreciation and cost of after warrantee repairs. My counter was always the transferable extended warrantee and that Tesla stands behind their cars. Now this confidence is gone...
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    All Discussion re: Tesla Motors Website & Forums

    It's down for me....how are you getting on?
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    Ludicrous with 19s: dumb? or negligible difference?

    For those that feel the 19" are cushy and font handle well just run them at 49-50 psi, near max cold pressure. No cushiness and they handle very close to 21's with zero pothole worries and overpriced replacement tire issues. Having said that, 20" HRE's are the best of all worlds.
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    Gurgling bubbling sounds from my 85D

    I have that gurgling noise also. Just noticing it now that weather is getting cooler. There are enough people here and on other threads who are experiencing this. It definitely is an issue. It also is embarrassing when you have a passenger in the car checking it out and you hear gurgling...
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    Ludicrous Mode upgrade now is 5k total!

    Still WAY too much for practically zero performance increase and a bunch of MAYBE's.
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    How do you charge at home? HPWC or UMC?

    HPWC at 80 amps. Charges fast & furious. Always ready to go at 90% charge insane mode. Wouldn't want to imagine waiting for a top up.
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    FUD Troll Reposting AmpedRealtors' Comments in CNET Article

    Autopilot is awesome. The world will find out soon enough. If someone has an accident or injures or kills someone.....it's the drivers' own fault, not Tesla/automaker. Always has been and always will be. Common sense. Let's use it. Let's not create drama.
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    V 7.0 tire pressure display

    1 bar equals 14.5 psi. Therefore the Tesla recommended 45 psi for the 19" tires equals 3.1 bar.
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    The point was they were sued for overstating horsepower. You shouldn't expend so much energy trying to defend trying to defend POTENTIAL HORSEPOWER. Like I said....even ICE are tested & can potentially make more HP with upgrades but automakers are not allowed to mislead the consumers by...
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    All ICE potentially can produce more HP than what the car is marketed at with system upgrades. But the actual cars are not marketed that way as it is misleading. They have actually been sued for doing so. Teslsa's marketing of motor power is simply marketing the potential HP of the motors but...
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    How long until a Autopilot accident is reported and the potential public backlash?

    Driver is responsible for operation of the car. Not TACC or AP. End of thread.
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    Drivetrain loss has nothing to do with this conversation so stop bringing it up. P85D does not ever produce 691 HP anywhere. Not even motor power. It just doesn't. Who cares about other EV manufactures. I bought and paid for the P85D. If I bought a different manufacturers EV I would be...
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    Sure, the hellcat is not AWD, but it still produces 700 HP and is very fast. So yes they can claim their 700 HP output because it is real. My P85D is quick off the line because of high low end torque and immediate responsiveness but it does not produce 691 HP .
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    Its fine that the you believe the HP rating of the Tesla is meaningless to Tesla buyers, even if it's not true but many of us understand what it means and don't need a graph to understand this performance on the Tesla should mean. Most of us know the difference between a Lotus and a Tesla and we...
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    That's interesting. Where did you see that? I was under the impression they would perform the same. Therefore the upgrade. I thought the only difference was the range difference. Link please....
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    Nowhere does Tesla say only CERTAIN P85Ds will be able to go ludicrous with the upgrade... Show us a link as proof that states this. Where are you coming up with this?
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    I understand and prrfectly how some of you are saying that PERHAPS the motors are different, perhaps the software is brings out more HP from the motors but let's get a few things straight. The P85D motor is RATED at MAXIMUM 691 HP motor power. It's a rating similar to the rating of a lightbulb...
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    What do you mean? Spell it out. Where does this extra 70 HP motor power come from when the motor hardware Is identical to the P85D and it is rated at 691 max Hp motor power all the while putting out 550 HP. If the upgrades produce an extra 70 Hp then the P90DL should be advertised as 550...
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    That cannot be possible. The current P85D is still Advertised as 691 HP motor Power. It doesn't actually produce that 691 HP. It is not limited to the 691 HP power. It is limited to 550 HP.
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    What are you talking about? I have a P85D with an advertised 691 HP motor rating which the battery/fuse system cannot satisfy. So I upgrade the fuse & software for $10k and suddenly I have 761 HP motor power with all the same motor hardware ? How is that possible?
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    No I do not. That is why I am asking. If they have the same motors and inverters between the P85D and the P90DL where does the extra 70 +motor HP come from. I thought 691 HP was the MAX motor Hp rating for the motors. That's why they were advertised.
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    All how does changing the fuse and the software change the actual max rating on the motors from the 691 original motor HP? lets not complicate the conversation by bringing in lower HP cars motor HP ratings. The P85D and the P90DL have the same motors and inverter.
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    But it I thought the P85D is rated at 691 motor power. That is the max HP they are capable of is it not?
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    Can you explain how the 762 motor HP for the Ludicrous upgrade is derived when the motors were originally rated for only 691 motor HP. Or do we need a court system to decipher that as well? [sarcasm]
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    I am curious did you buy the P85D? Are you saying the end justifies the means & Tesla, the salespeople and the media should continue to promote the 691 HP & 762 HP for Ludicrous regardless of what the buyers believe or understand and regardless of what the real truth is? Can someone explain...
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    I definitely bought the car because I was let to believe 691 HP. i definitely bought the car because I was led to believe that I costs $7 to fully charge my battery in my region at my rates. i definitely would NOT have bought the car had I been told the true specs. This all does not mean that...
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    @amped.... quote...(It's not at all safe to say that. You have no idea. Have you polled all P85D owners? Of course not. You are proffering nothing more than an opinion that is steeped in your position.). unquote now you are being silly. Are you disputing that HP sells? Do you think I made this...
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    +1..... It's safe to say many would not not have bought the P85D if it were advertised as 550 HP. Tesla knew the true HP. We did not. They also knows HP sells. We were sold.
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    I already mentioned the FACT that 1 foot roll out is adopted mainly by many American publications and American Auto makers. America is not the only country Tesla is selling cars to and no it is not the standard all over the world. Much of the world actually consider it cheating in order to...
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    P90DL 1/4 MILE RESULTS.....NOT AS ADVERTISED Tesla Model S P90D Ludicrous 1/4 Mile Results | DragTimes.com Drag Racing, Fast Cars, Muscle Cars Blog
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    lola; I respect your posts on mostly everything but I don't agree with you here. The advertised motor horsepower is the electrical motors capability provided the rest of the cars accessories are capable to extract this HP. The current configuration of the PD cannot extract this power from the...
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    Since we arent as astute as you, why not tell us exactly how the PD actually DOES perform and where it performs BETTER than advertised, as you say. When our entire point is that it completely falls short of advertised performance. This will be interesting.
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    Horsepower IS a performance measurement rating of work done. It IS most apparent at speed. The PD does not perform as well as other vehicles with ~700 because is DOES NOT produce 691HP. The motors are ONLY capable of the 691 HP rating with the necessary equipment which the the PD does NOT...
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    Who cares about the appeal to other auto makers. I bought a very expensive high performance Tesla based on intentionally advertised specs. To advertise the potential HP of a motor when there is no way it can deliver the rating is PHONY period. Perhaps an 550 HP ICE can hypothetically...
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    Sorry, NO. The issue IS with Tesla. They are publishing PHONY HP ratings. A motors potential capability is not how cars are sold. An ICE may have a potential 1000 HPbut no manufacturer advertises this way.
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    P85D motor hp controversy starts also to show in U.S. media

    Just because you are willing to fold up like a wet paper bag on the intentional misleading HP rating doesn't mean others will. Even your prized 0-60 rating is FALSE and PHONEY. It's not from ZERO!