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If this guy can drive semi-decently, he will rip the Tesla out of the water. A stock C6Z does 0-80 in the same amount of time a M3P does, this one's modded.

Excellent retort to not being able to articulate a constructive sentence to continue a debate with. I appreciate you bowing out. I'll respond in two parts, first if you look at the structure of my response I claimed it can sway opportunity in "both ways" so I'm confused on how you took that as...

You are missing the point, are you aware density altitude affects vehicle performance? How about humidity and air temperature affecting the tire compound to the track surface, there are a hundred variables you can not control that can factor the outcome in both ways. When you look at a skid-pad...

I'd argue a variation of .03 second difference is more of individual skill and driving conditions, skid-pad is an identical test.

I'm well aware of the effects tires have on a vehicle, this is my industry by professional trade. I was responding to the comment about the Hellcat not being able to handle and comparing it to a M3P. Both cars on their OE tires, the Hellcat out-handles the M3P.

For reference, the Hellcat Charger delivers .96G on the skid pad vs M3P's .94G, this is primarily a result of the active suspension in the Hellcat. No slouch around a track either with those figures.

I do miss the Hellcat, the ride quality was kind of bad and maybe the Challengers are different in this regard but - if you have passengers in the back of the Charger and you are in normal in the suspension settings, you get what feels like a rear end bounce where it hits the bump-stops. I do...

You missed who I was replying too, go back and read the quote I originally referred too. I wasn't neither for or against either.

The Plaid using Tesla's Smart Air Suspension achieves 1.08G's on the skid pad versus 1.03G's for the C8 Corvette, the McLaren (720) 1.08G's also uses Proactive Suspension Control System II and does not retain one remote reservoir as you mentioned, each shock has it's own independent fluid filled...

You're saying that a GLC63 which does 0-60 in 3.6 seconds and is also AWD, couldn't beat a Model 3 LR that does it in 4.2? The first light, I understand you got the jump on him. The second light, you would have been squashed. This story smells of fish.

Not to derail the thread but, I came out of a M235i and even with FBO/E85 I wasn't faster than a stock F80 M3C. Fastest run was 12.1 @ 114 next to my buddy's stock M3C that trapped 119. It just isn't in that small turbo to make enough boost to get you more than 385/400whp.

Subscribing to a license plate? Let's just continue to support the rental and subscription economic presence. Smh.

V11 is trash.

But he has a "Lambo"..

This makes sense, I didn't think about the rest of that.

How does he unplug the Tesla when it's locked?

Oh man, the thread I've been waiting for. I just read through all 26 pages and I am almost in complete agreeance with a lot of what was being said. I have always had fun cars, by choice as the motorhead in me just enjoys tinkering. In no proper order at all; E90 335i N54 VTT Turbos (530WHP)...