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  1. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    Seems there’s lots of conflicting information around these boards, I’ve read many times that dashcam and lightshow must be on separate drives. Issue with music etc…. Some people have gotten around by using dual partitions. I guess information ages and Tesla makes changes and updates. I’ll...
  2. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    Some users report that glovebox usb hubs have caused system issues. I don’t know for sure. But it’s only USB and it’s going to split data and power between all the connected devices plus it’s own overhead. The issue isn’t really as much as how to defeat and work around Teslas design...
  3. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    Plug a game controller into the New LR with the Ryzen and let me know how that goes. How fast does Sonic and Cuphead load?
  4. R

    Color navigation map?

    Satellite view awesome when you want to explore a map. It’s not gear for navigation imo. And the screen is a giant mess of green and brown. I did a little searching here and Tesla actually used the standard Google color map up until 2018 then changed to greyscale for an unknown reason. Maybe...
  5. R

    Color navigation map?

    Anyone know if Tesla plans to have a ”color” map option (something thats basically been on every GPS since 2001?). The greyscale map is horrible. At one point I mistaked a lake or river for a bubble in my new screen protector 😃. The full satellite imagery is nice to look around a play with in...
  6. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    I think you are sadly mistaken the importance of data communication with the cars computer. I get it, you want to use your car as a battery pack for more devices than just two phones. Good think for you that Tesla had provided 6 charging ports within reach on the drivers seat. 2 wireless...
  7. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    Yeah, I saw that too. But again, even if that happens in however long it takes for Tesla to decide to add it, it only solves one issue, you can have a bluetooth game controller. But you would still be forced to use the glovebox for your sentry SSD (thats ok, its where its reccomended anyway...
  8. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    Yes, thats cool, I saw in another thread. The big problem is that Tesla is crippling the software based on the vehicle (vin manufacture date or something) and so changing the hardware might get you another port to plug in a SSD, theres probably going to be software issues remaining. I guess we...
  9. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    Theres a bigger issue with new Tesla Model 3s (and Y’s) than Ryzen vs Atom. I’m surprised this isn’t getting more buzz, but I never heard of this until I started playing around with my new M3 today. Remember a couple months back when Tesla started shipping cars without USB-C ports? Well they...
  10. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    this is one of the better sources, unlike the hundreds of click bait robo articles that completely assume and spread false information. https://www.anandtech.com/show/17198/amd-expanding-into-tesla-model-3-and-model-y I can’t say for 100% (no one can at this point), but the commments by AMD...
  11. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    Yeah, why is that hard to imagine? 1,069 Tesla videos hit YouTube each day. On Tesla presentation days people are putting up videos before Elon is done speaking. The first video to go up showing the differences is going to get a ton more clicks than the obscure Chineese video. All these...
  12. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    I agree with you on this
  13. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    I think it’s been documented that the model 3 Intel Atom is liquid cooked and overclocked to run at 2ghz 100% of the time. So your comparisons and analogy is underestimating that.
  14. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    Where are all the videos demonstrating the Ryzens performance over the Intel?? There’s one sketchy video made in China 2.5 months ago, but now we have a spreadsheet with 100s and likely 1000s of Ryzen Model 3/Y in the US and no one has tried to make a viral YouTube video on this yet? Seems...
  15. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    Do I need to educate you on the difference between MCU1 and MCU2 now? This is your final lesson into how chips work. But now I completely understand why you think the AMD chip is more “future proof” and why you are scared about it. MCU1 was based on Nvidias Tegra 3 processor while MCU2 in an...
  16. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    Bro, I never stated that Beach buggy is a measure of CPU performance. And I’ve always acknowledged that the Ryzen processor is marginally faster at some functions is a better processor overall. that’s never been my disagreement, My point is, and has always been, that that there are...
  17. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    That beach buggy side by side comparison is the only solid prof of anything in this argument. you’ve never been in a Tesla (sorry, you test drive obnr)but you watch a lot if YouTube is what do I know. just to price you wrong once again: “Not many people, reviewers, etc. have their hands on...
  18. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    FYI the YouTube and Netflix performance have nothing to do with the Intel processor power. The reason these apps suck is because they aren’t apps. They are full screen (theater mode) browser windows. Tesla web browser is crap. Mostly by design they have crippled browser functionality...
  19. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    Post your sources. You are completely avoiding it. You continue to make vague references to your research but all I see is one tweet from Shanghai Jay. Just post your credible sources and I’ll eat crow. Simple.
  20. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    On the contrary, I don’t think you understand. The laggy internet connection has been proven in many complaints where a Tesla owners were experiencing issues in map loading, software updates etc. there are endless videos out there proving this. This was related to the original MIC video that...
  21. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    I feel like I should explain to you in more detail why this is a fallacy, Technology improves in exponential magnitudes. You see the Intel benchmark at 2k where the NEW AMD is at 47,000. The next hardware upgrade Tesla introduces will likely Bemchmark over 100k on these tests. Where...
  22. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    It’s not an altered hypothesis. I agree with the gentleman that the client could be an issue as oppress to the processor or internet connection. I didn’t agree or intent to imply that I agreed with his whole statement. Your argument is a complete fallacy. This “3-6x” buffer is not going to...
  23. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    No. that’s not what I’m saying. I am saying that the YouTube and Netflix apps are not optimized for Tesla playback. Why does beach buggy racing, an intense 3D graphic game taking input put controllers or steering wheel run smooth as the new AMD? I believe that improving the Netflix and...
  24. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    Yeah, and hopefully that would bring along CarPlay, Apple Music and Apple TV streaming. We can dream. Except for the Intel chip owners, screw them 😂
  25. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    Judging from some of the performance issues I’ve seen and other instances where there is the exact same performance, i believe you are correct. I don’t think the slowness with launching YouTube or Netflix is as much of an intel processor power issue as much as it’s poor software. Have you...
  26. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    Nope. Video decoding and graphics processing would be the bottleneck if internet speeds were the same.
  27. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    t’s actually closer to only 3x. What you aren’t realizing is that these are benchmarks, not real world applications. The function required of the infotainment system in the Tesla wwill show the chips performing much closer. But what you are really missing is that both chips are like 10x...
  28. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    i think what you should really be asking yourself is if cutting edge technology and high performance prices sing is important to you (which is completely legit) how can you NOT expect to trade up in Teslas every 4 years????
  29. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    Also carefully notice in that discussion how the one guy completely calls out the energy use increase in that AMD chip 2 months before Tesla started adding the agreement to the reduction in range for vehicle acceptance
  30. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    According to this Shanghai Jay is wrong
  31. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    I won’t even disagree with you. But just to keep the same relative reference point the old AMD Ryzen they are putting into the new model 3 is from the same steaming pile as the intel. What you really want is the AMD chip with the RDNA graphics and 10 teraflops of processing power. You know...
  32. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    I completely concur. If I was going to delay my delivery for any of these new fear yes it would be the double pane rear glass. That is truly an upgrade and completely passive. You will reap the benefits of that feature ever single time you drive without even thinking about it. Not counting...
  33. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    Tesla is going through this because, 1 there is a global chip shortage and these chips were available. 2 they’re cementing a relationship for future chip tech as being used in the X/S. Many of the YouTube, Netflix issues are internet connection related vs CPU. I have seen many complaints...
  34. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    C‘’ Mon. Seriously? You really think this AMD chip is going to show an improvement in day to day function when in 2022 it can’t bear the Intel performance from 2019? It’s not just this one game. It’s everywhere on the system, You can’t show me a single video showing improvement. We...
  35. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    I disagree with your logic. The Intel atom chip is around a million Tesla vechicles, probably 80 of the current worldwide fleet in existence is running this chip. Tesla will not break the functionality and the AMD chip is not any more future proof tech than the atom chip. They are roughly the...
  36. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    This isn’t a discussion about what it what not to get. Who cares what you buy. This is about discovery of a new technology and getting the facts correct so people can make the best informed decisions. There’s obviously some misconceptions about what the new chip is or isn’t, don’t you think...
  37. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    Please watch the two videos I just posted above and explain to me how the video from June 2019 shows the same performance on Beach Buggt Racing as the new Ryzen chip. Show me where I am wrong about that and I’ll clearly admit my mistake.
  38. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    Right, this video is controversial in tbd sense that it was shot under different times, cars and conditions as noted by the timing and lighting. This video was BS, and that was followed by major “fake news” just rushing to print click bait assuming it’s the Same as the recent AMD system...
  39. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    These are generic performamce benchmarks, not having anything to do with the software on Tesla vehicles. Show me a demonstration where the “new” ryzen shoes improved performance over the atom, because I posted video evidence they are fairly the same. Show your sources
  40. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    Video comparison of the “improved performance” with the “new” AMD Ryzen: That’s your 2022 Model 3 with the new AMD Ryzen chip. Also note, this demonstration is done on a 300 mbs wifi connection. You’re not going to find anything much faster than that. Pay attention to him opening up Beach...
  41. R

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    I think we can all agree on the rationale to wait. And the debate is nearly a non issue because in a month or so. No one will have a choice to make, Ryzen will be the only option. However, you are very much wrong on the rationale about getting the “latest and greatest and newest tech”. As a...
  42. R

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Out of curiosity, what information or source convinced you that the same AMD system in the model X and S was coming to the 3/Y? Do you know that the S/X have a seperate Radeon GPU which neither the 3 nor Y are getting. They are using the AMD Ryzen chip with its integrated graphics processing...
  43. R

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Reddit is a discussion thread, not a video.
  44. R

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Did you look at the Reddit link I posted?
  45. R

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    If you want to see with your own eyes than just look at the model 3 AMD Ryzen video noted above. Check out where he launches Beach Buggy Racing… takes about 14 seconds from mashing the “start” button until the load screen finishes. Now go to Youtbe and look up ANY 2 year old video for “Tesla...
  46. R

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    You really think Tesla is putting the same CPU/GPU chip from the $100,000 model S and Xs into the 3s and Ys (which gave a base cost as low as $35,000?). But this thread talks about the AMD chip going into he 3 and Y
  47. R

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    I can’t comment on sentry mode because I don’t have that much experience with it, and only a feature I intend to use very rarely because it consumes a ton of juice. Thers a thousand YouTube videos on the model 3 and y infotainment screens from 2020 and 2021 including the maps and UI and the...
  48. R

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    I’ve seen that the CPU is not the same as the S and X AND even bigger issue is that neither the 3 nor the Y has the GPU which is what really brings the power to the screen. Of course anyone would prefer a PS5 over an earlier generation for the same price. But the analogy is poor. It’s more...
  49. R

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Yes. I said it’s a 5 year old chip today. And then I said in 2027 (5 years from now) the idea that any 10 year old chip is going to function that much better or be “future proof” than any other 10 year old chip in a modern era is kinda silly. Yes. I have the “new” AMD chip going into the M3/Y...
  50. R

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    he is on a 300 mbps wifi connection….