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    Regenerative braking on icy roads

    Some very limited testing today.while using regen, sliding on ice, I found out that the ABS startet working as soon as I put the foot on the brakepedal. Regen was completly disabled while the brakepedal were in use, and came back as soon as I let go of the brake. The solution may be to use...
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    Regenerative braking on icy roads

    I will do more testing too, when the ice return.
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    Regenerative braking on icy roads

    You may get a delayed braking in a critical situation.
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    Regenerative braking on icy roads

    I have in all my of my 33years driving, never had any accidents, or been in the ditch, or driven into a snowbank. So I am quite cautious, not pushing over the limits. Hope stay at zero incidents in the tesla too. The automatic high beam had a nice update recently. If they would give me a...
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    Regenerative braking on icy roads

    VDC is ESP. TCS is not.
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    Regenerative braking on icy roads

    Feathering is no option when a moose suddenly enters the road in front of you. That was my point all the way. My oldest saab give me the full breaking and steering capability at the same time. No time wasted, and full control.
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    Regenerative braking on icy roads

    That is the problem with one pedal driving. Easy at first, but when you really need the brakes you have some bad habits. I would prefer brake blending in these situations. Or an option to use brake blending, with 2 pedal driving.
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    Regenerative braking on icy roads

    TCS is not ESP. It is traction control and do not automatically correct the cars direction. With ESP the car will use the brakes to help changing direction. TCS is traction control and ABS only. What Is Electronic Stability Program(ESP) And Traction Control System(TCS)? How ESP And TCS Works?
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    Regenerative braking on icy roads

    Dont know if subaru are delivered with esp in the states. In europe it is mandatory. The energy released by the Y, when it slips, can make it almost uncontrollable. The rear wheel bias and the sudden movements are not a preferred behaviour in my opininion.
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    Regenerative braking on icy roads

    Great tires. Studded hakka is probaly the best selling winter tire in Norway. Luckily good tires are readily avaliable here I have the hakkapelitta r3 studless tires. Had various generations of studless Nokian for over 20 years. Great tires until the surface get soaked in rain.
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    Regenerative braking on icy roads

    Most the people in this forum are not used to winter conditions. In Norway winter driving is part of your lisence. If you dont master it, you wont get your driving permit. Sheet ice and -20 degrees C is nothing special. We do have grippier winter tires than the americans, but we are also used to...
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    Regenerative braking on icy roads

    For some reason I suspect 2 things. Most of the commenters supporting Teslas on this topic, either have not driven a car with real stability control or do live in an area where slippery roads are really rare. Dry frozen snow or ice is not slippery. Living in Norway, I do experience slippery road...
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    '21 MYP How To Turn Off Regen Braking?

    Oh it slips more abruptly than any other car i have driven. And when it slips on ice, it does nothing to help you regain control. You are on your own. The Abs and traction control is ok, but the motors braking just ruin it. The other thing is, I still havent figured out if it really has any...
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    Slipping in highway during winter - Regenerative driving problem

    1.. When you let go of the accelerator, there is a delay with increasing braking. That delay is a no good in an emergency. 2. If you want to maximize braking, you want your abs to be fully functional. Individual braking on every wheel. If you have to manually test how much to brake and decide if...
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    Slipping in highway during winter - Regenerative driving problem

    So it is possible to turn the regen off? When you do that, is the electronic stability control still active?
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    Slipping in highway during winter - Regenerative driving problem

    Great. I have relatives in Finland too. Do occationally cross the border to buy some Grilli and cheap distilled beverages.
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    Slipping in highway during winter - Regenerative driving problem

    A finish patriot😄. Have relatives in finland too. No, but is just like aquaplaning, you need your tires to rotate to drain the water. Unfortunatly suddden and unexpected are part of most accidents. A research from 2005 claimed that electronic stability control was the biggest advance in car...
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    Slipping in highway during winter - Regenerative driving problem

    No the abs did not kick in at all. The regen locked the wheels and the abs had nothing to work with. I do live outside of the states and drive on Nokian Hakkapelitta winter tires. probably one of the best unstudded winter tire there is. Unfortunately on soaking wet ice, it is almost like driving...
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    Slipping in highway during winter - Regenerative driving problem

    Driving my 2022 MYLR on wet ice, was a terrible experience. Have driven close to a million km mostly in winter conditions with other brands. This time, i was lucky my wife was home and not behind the steering wheel. Letting go of the "gas" locked all four wheels, and had to gently push it in...
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    Model Y Suspension and Ride Comfort Options

    Koni FSD would make a big difference on this car.