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That person seems like a rah-rah cheerleader, he/she seems to say every release is great. I distinctly remember him/her saying 12.4.1 was so amazing.

The biggest interventions for me are pushing on the accelerator pedal to go faster. I need to do this multiple times per minute.

Mine is still ok at best to frequently terrible, it ignores the neighboring cars' positions so it will frequently park too close to the car that's closer to my driver's side and leave a huge gap on the other side. So I need to correct it myself so I can open my door. It just goes for the middle...

I do think it would be good to have a backup system stop for red light and stop signs but in your son's case, I think the current FSDS will make him even more complacent and detached from what's happening. I think the old non-beta FSD (back in the days of FSD Beta) where the car automatically...

I think this belongs in the investment thread. Are you saying people would have their car constantly drive around so they don't have to park somewhere to sleep? If you really have tons of cars just driving around to not pay rent, traffic would be so bad that I guess you could get a good sleep...

Asking this generally to everyone, is this really true? I didn't think there is user maintenance for the battery and even if babied, seems like the battery will fail much sooner than at 500k miles.

I went to change my username but what is this! Maybe by that time, we will finally have v12.4.9.3.6. Oh first drive and park on v12.3.6 part2 as part of 2024.14.9. drives the same, just as slowly as before (no surprise), Autopark was just as slow as it has been, and it parked so close to my...

It's been that way at least recently, where if Tesla wants to push an update, you'll get it even after you just checked. Just happened to me for the 2nd time in the last few months.

I just burned my check and still nothing, I'm on 2024.3.25. [edit: about 30 minutes after manually checking with no update available, i was just pushed 14.9]

I would recommend not putting your full address in your profile.

I remembered Waymo already does this but it's not your own car and the coverage area is extremely limited. I think it'll take Waymo a similar amount of time (5-10 years but closer to 10) to cover 90+% of the US population.

7 years 8 months 9 days. :)

Even when I do that, sometimes the car will steer violently in the wrong direction and still need 2-3 moves to back in. o_O

This is huge! The FSD branch is actually ahead of the mainline branch? :oops:

Yes you can cover the interior camera and it won't affect AP operation at all. Op is talking about FSD though.

Going back to the original question: I think if you buy a new Tesla when there FSD transfer promo, there will be probably no strikes on the new car.

I've had 1 car behind me get frustrated by the slow crawl that they drive around me and cut in front me rather dangerously. That happened 1 time but I've had cars abruptly change lanes (without trying to cut back in front me), so it's clearly annoying at least some drivers.

Just to add onto Alan's reply, the braking behavior is terrible in my car as well. It'll slow down too early too abruptly, then coasts painfully slowly all the while the braking pulses stronger/weaker/stronger/weaker. It's demonstrated very well here:

Elon's "2 weeks" Ford's "2 years"

I think you need to turn it on in the car menu, try looking around the autopilot section.

Here's my 2018 model 3, crotch is covered and can't tell if the steering wheel is visible at all.

Looks like all are coming from 2024.14.x branches so seems irrelevant to those of us waiting for FSD 12.4. 14.11 looks like only for Cybertrucks and 14.9 all others, most likely a bugfix.

whoa, really going out on a limb there!

My wife's car, bought new in Dec 2022 and which had subscribed to FSD 2 separate times within 2023 and recently had the free trial which ended, is still on 2024.3.25. So it seems like some non-early access cars are also being held back for 12.4. edit: I thought about it some more, it could be...

Complete with curbed wheels. Interesting vehicle for a mobile tech.

Private party on Craigslist. He (2nd owner) had never even used FSD in the year he had the car.

This past weekend I was in San Francisco for the holiday weekend and found FSD to be quite useful. Knowing which lanes to be in for upcoming road splits and turns Generally having it navigate in an unfamiliar and busy area without me stressing out Most of the speed limits are 25, sometimes 30...

I know it's easy to play armchair quarterback and say there was plenty of time to take over but this one really does seem like there was plenty of time to react. The person on Twitter says they were starting to take over but too late, he does admit that it's all his fault but posting it to warn...

When I bought my car used in Aug 2023, (less than a year later it's almost half price) FSD was $15k new but I paid maybe $1k more for a car with FSD vs similar cars without FSD.

It seems like Tesla has been coming down hard on leaks and the employees are deathly scared of getting fired. There is not a peep about actual experiences with 12.4 anywhere. I remember some Teslabull guy who was posting videos on Youtube when V12 was employee only, then he stopped posting a...

Shills like Whole Mars have been releasing hands free no intervention drive videos for years now. Nothing new.

My favorite signoff to an email ever.

You'll be waiting forever

Asso on or off makes no difference for me, today was especially bad, the car kept harshly braking a few seconds after I would speed up the car to go under the limit over and over. At one point the car was going 39 in a 50mph expressway with traffic flow around 58. I speed up to 58, after a...

Goes too slow, usually under the speed limit.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-advanced-driver-assistance-systems-litigation-u-s-district-court-northern-district-of-california-no-22-05240.327227/#post-8262720

At least my car is consistent, slow in both residential and everywhere else.

I am on the faster side, 75th percentile sounds about right but I keep pace with other cars so that I'm not the fastest. But the car is usually around the 25th percentile, it could be my particular roads/conditions that make it so slow but most of the time (at least half the time) it's under...

This seems like terrible news for me personally. I have to intervene with the accelerator every few seconds so for me, my MPI is around 0.1-0.2. While I would welcome a 5-10x improvement, something tells me 12.4 will not be keeping up with the flow of traffic either. But to lose v11 on the...

That has nothing to do with how early someone gets new releases.

It only took then 6 weeks but glad to see folks finally getting it. I wish I had v11 back though because v12 goes too slow almost all the time.

12.3.6

WTF does fixed even mean? The nags are back in 12.4? Or much reduced or gone in 12.4?

On my wife's newer 2023 Model 3 without USS, the autopark worked fine, actually usable. On my 2018 Model 3 with USS, the autopark has been absolutely terrible like you said. I'd set up the car perfectly so that all it has to do is back in at the angle I left it at, then the steering wheel...

I do NOT want to be going 10-15 below the speed limit on freeways. Somehow I doubt 12.4 even addresses the going too slow issue on city streets.

My 12.4 wishlist 1. go faster than the speed limit 2. go faster than the speed limit 3. go faster than the speed limit

My wife's car still had it active this morning also.

I got 12.3.5 yesterday by manually checking, today it was already downloading 12.3.6 when I checked after pulling into my garage. 2018 Intel USS model 3. Looking fwd to getting the new autopark.

I got 12.3.5 today, 2018 Intel USS car. Seems like no reason or rhyme as to who gets 12.3.5 vs 12.3.6. My wife's car 2023 AMD non-USS which got 12.3.5 a few days ago didn't get 12.3.6 by manually checking.

I can't see the initial estimate now but I don't think it (labor charge) was there either. I think my service request was something like "creaking, squeaking noise from the front when driving, it may be the front upper control arms". Good luck!