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    Holiday Update Model Y Question

    Hi installed update 2023.44.30.7 and I noticed that speed cameras have been added and are displayed but no audio alerts. This could be a distraction as looking for cameras take eyes off road. Am I missing something or continue using TomTom.
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    High Fidelity Park Assist

    Yes you make a god point and its true with build up of snow but less far less impacted on other weather conditions, plus Vision cameras would also be affected with snow. But point taken,
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    High Fidelity Park Assist

    dsm363, I notice that I have just received a further update 2023.44.30.7 for High Fidelity, which claims minor improvements which is great. My concern with Vision that it not great at best when all cameras are clean, not fogged up and in daylight, but just after a short drive in winter the...
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    High Fidelity Park Assist

    Well just looked fidelity up on thesaurus and it Reliability, trustworthiness and dependability, does this help?
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    High Fidelity Park Assist

    Today, reversing was much better, clearly the rear camera picked it up of sorts, it did show the refuge bin by yellow and red blobs contact with the vehicle, but accuracy out by 1.4 meters, no accuracy but lovely shades. Tried rotation but made little to no difference. Pics attached
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    High Fidelity Park Assist

    Yes, that's what I thought I even reversed back into the garage and drove out towards the bin a couple of times thinking that it would be picked up, but no AI said path clear. I then drove back into the garage and placed a second bin next to the one in the picture, drove out again and this time...
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    High Fidelity Park Assist

    Having a Model Y dual motor with full FSD vehicle without USS and relying on camera vision is a disaster, its inaccurate and cannot be relied. I had to fix a battens to the garage floor, as vision displays stop when the car a third outside the garage or it displays 50cm when your touching the...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    jebic, yes I agree 100% that its the culture that is the problem, we have three other EV in the family Fiat 500e, Polestar and KIA, Tesla has great advantages, charging, over the air updates and by far the best power and most efficient unit. But with the other models you get what its states on...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    Lowly, I would agree I nearly got nicked on the A15 motorway in Italy, 35 degrees wiper operating at full speed, run dry on screen wash, reverted to keeping a bottle of water and a damp leather in the boot and kept popping out to wipe a screen which was totally smeared by the wipers running on...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    jebinc: It was interesting that Tesla continued until mid April to advertise all the parking functions as available when ordering a vehicle, when they were fully aware that from Oct 22 they were not, I along with a few other contacted Trading Standards, shortly after the specifications were...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    WilliamG, yes agree but when you are given assurances in writing one would believe that it would be delivered.
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    Yes, you can only fool once, our second car is a Fiat La Prima 500e, my son has a Polestar and my other son has a KIA electric that three sales that Tesla lost, whilst I like the Tesla, do not trust the companies lies and decrepit, so could not recommend.
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    Thanks for your reply, yes the parking functions are a big disappointment, I called to cancel the vehicle and was assured both verbally and in writing in Dec 22 by Tesla UK that the features would be reinstated and working by the new year. Having it in writing I replied that I would accept the...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    jebinc, I agree, Camera Vision is useless, I was hoping the 2023.44.30.2 would deliver more accuracy but its got worst could not see a 1200 x 400 x 400 refuge bin so no hope in saving your rims. I understand that its going to be rolled out on vehicles with USS sensors, hope Tesla dont remove...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    I received the 2023.44.30.2 software upgrade, I was longing for the updated for an improved park assist on vehicles fitted without USS sensors which up to now was tonally useless and could not be relied upon. Well sadly the new improved holiday (Christmas's) software upgrade can only be...
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    Tesla Alternative?

    DRS247: I would agree that the Tesla Supercharges are the vehicles best asset, In July drove my Tesla Y dual motor with full FSD to Tuscany in Italy, driving through France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Switzerland and Italy no issues with the supercharging network plenty (20- 21 units common setup)...
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    2023 Model Y no USS discussion, incl. Discussion of Tesla Vision Firmware

    Yelobird, agree with some of your views and experience, however having paid £6400 for EAP and FSD, which included in the contract all parking features, not getting them at the point of sale, I think any reasonable person would feel ripped off. I have unfortunately had a very poor experience...
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    2023 Model Y no USS discussion, incl. Discussion of Tesla Vision Firmware

    Flemingo, Thanks for your support, there are Tesla owners who have been very critical about my complaint, told if I cant park without sensors should not be driving, what's wrong with using cameras and my eyes. The price drop whilst disappointed I consider Tesla like buying shares, they can go...
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    2023 Model Y no USS discussion, incl. Discussion of Tesla Vision Firmware

    nate 704, I can assure you nobody has paid me to post this input, clearly its the truth, feel free to challenge any of my comments, its a rip off. I paid for accessories and functions, assure they would be delivered but not materialised. Please feel free to challenge me, would be interested in...
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    2023 Model Y no USS discussion, incl. Discussion of Tesla Vision Firmware

    Its not the price, I think you are missing the point, we contracted and paid for the parking features which have not been delivered its....FRAUD and Tesla cannot be trusted. Lies, deceit not a world class company.
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    2023 Model Y no USS discussion, incl. Discussion of Tesla Vision Firmware

    AJ, I have come to the conclusion Tesla don't give much credence to safety but go for saving a few pennies, sad as other EV are overtaking Tesla's lead. Tesla remains level two whilst Mercedes and Ford are at level three, wake wake Elon.
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    2023 Model Y no USS discussion, incl. Discussion of Tesla Vision Firmware

    hlamelissa, Tesla are ripping customers, they are still advertising all the parking functions if you order a car. Tesla can only keep dropping the price of cars its the only way they can sell. Prospective buyers are now wise to the false promises and Tesla continue to mislead customers. Great...
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    [UK] Anyone else considering refusing delivery by of Model Y? (USS)

    Drew57 Thanks for your comments, I too am very fond of my Tesla Y long range and I was fully aware when I opted for FSD that it was a future development but was interested in getting updates and hoped that one day, yes it may make driving easier and safer. What turned me off was Tesla negating...
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    [UK] Anyone else considering refusing delivery by of Model Y? (USS)

    Redy23, They made it clear a week before pick up in December 22 that parking functions would be temporarily disabled whilst Tesla transferred over to vision. Caption "Coming Soon", "for a short period of time" and "safety was not being compromised". Tesla is a great vehicle but what stuck in...
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    Poll - When do you believe park assist will be available again?

    No originally we were looking at a Tesla saloon model 3 for my wife, but she went off Tesla and decided to go for a Town car, so opted for Fiat 500 La Prima EV Ocean Green in white leather. We now have a town car and the Tesla Y dual long range for longer journeys. Funny you mentioned the ev6...
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    Poll - When do you believe park assist will be available again?

    Yes very much may need to take a loss and move on, been looking at KIA and Hyundai, that said picked up our second EV family car today, great experience, treated like a valued customer, the car was spotless, good build quality / paintwork, complementary mats, a full charge and full working speck...
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    [UK] Anyone else considering refusing delivery by of Model Y? (USS)

    Audiotronics: We all like smooth bumpers but I fear that they will not be smooth for very long if relying on camera vision to assist in parking. I have been driving since 1967 where some cars had only three gears and one had to double-de-clutch to shift gears, we did have robust chrome bumpers...
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    [UK] Anyone else considering refusing delivery by of Model Y? (USS)

    RedY23, they also took my money, which I gave them, no issues there, I too read what the car comes with and does not, but sadly did not get what was included in the ETA as advertised. Therefore I feel cheated, which I assume you would feel the same. I also paid for auto pilot and did realise...
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    [UK] Anyone else considering refusing delivery by of Model Y? (USS)

    RedY23. I would agree that Park assist has been replaced, I would disagree that its as good or reliable as USS at present. I find it hit and miss and cannot be relied upon as it does not show 9" x 9" brick pillars and 24" garden wall in good or bad weather by the front facing cameras, the rear...
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    [UK] Hands free (Level 2) driving has arrived

    Totaly agree with you, I love the Y but very frustrated having paid for EAP and FSD six month later just got a vision park assist and the only genuine bit is the disclaimer which basically says don't trust it it does not work. Park, summons and self summons still not available. Unless something...
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    [UK] Hands free (Level 2) driving has arrived

    [/MEDIA] Yes and I have been informed that it can park and has park assist that works.
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    [UK] Hands free (Level 2) driving has arrived

    MartiMart Spot on, I strongly hope that the Tesla top management focus on your comments as there is an ever growing number of Tesla vehicles being rolled off the production which don't do what described on the tin with growing number fed p****d off owners . Tesla on automation has now dropped...
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    Tesla Alternative?

    adazzleman, you may pay more but you get them fully working, with Tesla you pay £3400 for EAP and don't get anything other than a note "Temporarily unavailable for a short period of time or coming soon" All we got six month down the line is Vision Park Assist, with warning in essence saying...
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    [UK] Hands free (Level 2) driving has arrived

    Liam, don't hold up much hope Tesla cant even sort out Park Assist, park, summons and special summons what hope is there for FSD. Were heading for the bottom of the pile.
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    [UK] Hands free (Level 2) driving has arrived

    Just been reading a consumers report rating different self driving systems and it claims Tesla has been knocked into seventh position, with Ford Blue Cruise at number 1. Hope Tesla get their fingers out and deliver as there is only four to the bottom of the league.
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    [UK] Hands free (Level 2) driving has arrived

    Kenneth, you were right the steering issues were in the US, thanks for correcting me.
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    Driving a Tesla in the UK, as explained by a foreigner.

    What's summons, smart summons and park, no longer available since October 2022, You pay for the functions but don't get them. We have just recently had a park assist update which uses the vehicles cameras, its hit and miss and cant be relied upon, I gone back to the old days and screwed a...
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    [UK] Hands free (Level 2) driving has arrived

    KennethS, there was some another news release that there were problems with the seats and seatbelt bolts not being at the correct torque on certain models, but not had any recalls, so guess that unless contacted all is ok.
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    [UK] Hands free (Level 2) driving has arrived

    I also want hands free, park assist, park, summons and special summons all, paid for both EAP and FSD but still waiting, I believe future months will be very interesting the competitiveness that Tesla had has gone and other manufacturers gaining and have already passed Tesla. It appears that...
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    [UK] Hands free (Level 2) driving has arrived

    Kenneth, I believe a few instances were in the UK.
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    [UK] Hands free (Level 2) driving has arrived

    I thought the cabin camera was going to replace the pressure on the steering by monitoring the drivers eyes, that said good idea to keep both hands on the wheel, few incidents recently where the steering wheels falls off Y models.
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    [UK] Hands free (Level 2) driving has arrived

    I would very much hope so but cant see it happening. Tesla are still trying to sort out Vision parking assist which its recent release is an improvement on nothing but cannot be relied upon, summons, self park and special summons is just a future dream. If the vision software cannot...
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    Poll - When do you believe park assist will be available again?

    RedY23 RedY23, Thanks for your reply to be honest was not going to engage further as clearly there are some members that get rather annoyed of any criticism of Teslar and clearly happy to accept whatever the car turns up with. I was even accused of ordering the wrong vehicle, which clearly is...
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    Poll - When do you believe park assist will be available again?

    THEbuz, Thanks for your comments I agree with you and I was made fully aware at the point of ordering that FSD it was a future work towards and unlikely that full self driving in the UK would be available. That was fully accepted with the knowledge as things improved in the FSD journey they...
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    Poll - When do you believe park assist will be available again?

    THEbuz, thanks for your comment and I am sure you are correct. The reason I kicking off and some members don't understand or have bothered to read any of my comments is that the main purpose of purchasing Tesla apart from its looks and equipment was park assist and special summons which was very...
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    Poll - When do you believe park assist will be available again?

    THEbuz, you maybe right and and Elon maybe an effing genius, but from where I stand does not add up. I have been trying out the Vision update that has been released to replace or partially replace the parking assist functions since the decision to remove USS. I have ensured all the cameras...
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    Poll - When do you believe park assist will be available again?

    Having downloaded the new update of Park assist thus far found it next to useless, cant be relied upon or be taken seriously as it stands. If it cannot detect walls, gate posts and metal gates then there is no hope of of being functional for self park, summons or special summons without...
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    Poll - When do you believe park assist will be available again?

    Yes received it yesterday, very mixed feelings, did not detect 9" wall pillar or drive metal gates but in fairness its early days needs to be used in many different scenarios. That said cant see it ever parking itself unless the car parks are empty of vehicles but only time will tell if its a...
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    [UK] Anyone else considering refusing delivery by of Model Y? (USS)

    I am pleased that you have made a huge amount of money and sincerely hope you continue to do so, investment is an individual personal choice. My reason for mention Tesla shares that whilst I don't believe I have been rude or insulted anybody, it appears that some Tesla owners are quick to...