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    4 Wheel drive on Model Y?

    We've been driving Volvos for the past 20 years (XC70, XC60 and XC90) here in Colorado and all of them perform differently in the snow due to difference in AWD systems, weight, engine tuning, etc. XC70 from 2004 being the best probably because of the low center of gravity. We finally had first...
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    Campground Camping, Sleeping in MY Supply List

    Mine certainly will be convinced by a portable electric bidet:)
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    Colorado EV credit will increase from $ 2500 to $5000 starting July!

    Major disappointment. But not the first one and I am sure not the last one with the politicians:)
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    Colorado EV credit will increase from $ 2500 to $5000 starting July!

    Good news! Hopefully it will be retroactive for the full 2023, we took delivery in February. I don't really look at it as a government subsidy, but rather as a return of my money, which will be spent better than the government will waste it away anyway:) When we picked up our car we did not get...
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    New 2023 MY — Driver’s window randomly fails to close (second request for Tesla service)

    BTW, that message I am referring to was in the Tesla app.
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    New 2023 MY — Driver’s window randomly fails to close (second request for Tesla service)

    Yes, completely random. First time it happened was on a day I picked up the car:) It was rather cold, so I thought the window trim was stiff. But then it happened again and it kept doing it even on hot days (roughly 3-10 days per occurrence). On some days it could happen a couple of times, when...
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    New 2023 MY — Driver’s window randomly fails to close (second request for Tesla service)

    Had exactly the same problem on my MYLR delivered 2/3/2023, Fremont build. It was a misaligned door (not visible to an eye). Tech came out and after consulting on the phone with another tech just rotated some bolts and everything is hunky-dory since then. Give that guidance to your tech. Nothing...
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    “Dumb” cruise control?

    I have travelled in my MYLR twice at night to Denver airport and using cruise control or AP is impossible because of the constant phantom braking (about 5 of them within 3 mile stretch). I can clearly see why it's happening - part of the highway stretch goes under bridges and highway changes...
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    Two month impression

    I agree with you, but cameras only tech is prone to problems just like humans. For example, bright sun blinds us and darkness makes it difficult to see at night. I think original idea of relying on three different frequency tech (USS, radar and cameras) would have been much more reliable and...
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    Two month impression

    Yes, at the same price point:) The coming Volvo EX90 "is nicely equipped at a little over 80K".
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    Two month impression

    Yes, as a driver. Some of the things I am used to are missing without adequate replacement. I actually always preferred USS beep signals to camera, since you use two different channels of information - hearing with USS beeps and at the same time you have your eyeballs to check the surrounding in...
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    Two month impression

    Yes, economics of Tesla MY vs comparably costing ICE is certainly more favourable. Gas prices apart, don't forget maintenance costs. Volvo still charges for software updates, probably the rest of the premium europeans do too.
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    Two month impression

    Somewhat agree with item 1 even though you understood exactly what I meant and engaged in word play. Volvo keeps autosteer (in your lingo) when changing lanes. Disagree with the rest points. I think it is a futile exercise to argue on these issues. Every person's subjective opinion depends on...
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    Two month impression

    Yes, you are right on your observation. I also should have added that not only frequency, but also the source plays a big role in measuring distance when comparing USS to Tesla Vision. With USS you have an active source - ultrasonic ping (just like bats), reflection from the obstruction/wall is...
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    Two month impression

    What year was your S60? I am surprised at your impression of MY having a better ride than the Volvo. The SPA-based SUVs are certainly better ride than the MY, including Pilot Assist (Volvo's version of the Tesla's basic autopilot). For example, PA does not disengage when changing lanes. Volvo is...
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    Two month impression

    Disclaimer - I still think that we did the right move by buying the car when it was discounted and became eligible for the tax rebate. Took delivery of 2023 MYLR on February 3rd of this year. Put 2500 miles on the car so far, it is a shared ride between me and my wife. Our ICE vehicle (Volvo...
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    2023 Model Y no USS discussion, incl. Discussion of Tesla Vision Firmware

    Yeah, 12 year old Volvo XC60 has a much better precision and audible chimes, which actually made sense (louder from the sensor side which was the closest to the obstacle) than the marvel of the EV world:) I only hope for future updates, not much help as it is right now.
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    Is this used 2021 Model Y a Good Deal?

    Would it be eligible for the tax credits? I would whip the calculator out and calculate your final cost for "used less whatever incentives" vs "new less incentives" In my case buying used did not make any sense due to different tax credit income eligibility for new vs used. Your situation could...
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    Took Delivery of MY LR in Colorado, No Gratis Mud Flaps & PPF?

    Colorado Clear Bra in Arvada on Kendall street. Look them up on google maps.
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    Took Delivery of MY LR in Colorado, No Gratis Mud Flaps & PPF?

    Took delivery a month ago with no mudflaps and shark fin ppf for rear wheels. Specifically asked my SA if the car comes with those. The answer was that Tesla never delivered vehicles to Colorado with these addons. I did a full front ppf wrap and added shark fins at the shop I always use (fourth...
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    2023 Model Y Unacceptable Build Quality and Issues

    Agree on most negatives, except climate controls. Tesla has remarkable voice recognition and I use it excessively. My wife says that it is noisy too, I don't really notice it that much (could be that I need a hearing aid:) How did you arrive to 46K after incentives? 58.2K (54.4K cost + 3.8K...
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    Model Y Review by a Hater

    Test drive will be in order once it's out for sure. But I am afraid the price tag will be much more than 40k model Y (after incentives).
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    Model Y Review by a Hater

    Completely agree. I am coming from Volvos and the ride and seat quality in Tesla is under par. The ride quality on the highway actually reminds me of body-on-frame Toyota 4Runner we briefly owned. It could be just the stiffer design because of the large battery. Can't really compare Tesla to any...
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    VIn to Delivery Time

    Yes on the insurance - once the delivery is scheduled you can tell your insurance agent when to start the insurance and upload the image of the insurance card in the app. In terms of payment - I just brought a cashier's check for the outstanding amount. I did not deal with the loans/banks.
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    Colorado waiting room

    This is our first EV, some things are amiss in comparison to the three Volvos owned in the past (especially in comparison to the 2018 XC90). But once you start thinking about Tesla as computer on wheels plus potential $12500 in savings if Polis increases CO tax credit to 5k the ride is even...
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    Colorado waiting room

    OD 1/14 white/black/19" ($52990, cash) EDD 1/14 Jan-Mar 2023 EDD 1/19 Jan30-Feb27 EDD 1/29 Jan29-Feb7, VIN assigned (Fremont build) SDD 2/3, picked it up same day Now being in the shop for a full frontal wrap at the Colorado Clear Bra. Highly recommend. This is my 4th vehicle I am protecting...
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    VIn to Delivery Time

    About two weeks for me (VIN assigned 1/19, which is the date the car was manufactured, picked up 2/3). I think when you are assigned the VIN your car is either being manufactured or has been just manufactured.
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    Took delivery today (OD 1/14). Car is flawless (white/black/19). Fremont build.
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    Parking assist

    Agree with all your points after picking up the car today. Flawless assembly, but still waiting and hoping for the Tesla Vision:)
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    In my case (and probably the same for the rest of the Tesla anticipants) once my delivery time changed from the generic Jan-Mar window to a more specific window is when the car was manufactured. Mine has changed on Jan 19 to Jan 30-Feb 27 delivery window and I learned that the car was produced...
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    Boy, looking at the pictures gives me heart palpitations. I am picking up tomorrow and most likely will reject the car with the same blemishes. Congratulations on the new car.
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    Parking assist

    Yes, the only thing going for it is the steep discount and the tax credit eligibility with the vague promise of "tesla vision" as a replacement to sensors (although it will be no surprise to me if I learn down the road "tesla vision" was nothing but a marketing ploy to avoid scarcity of USS and...
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    Parking assist

    I am actually scheduled to pick up the car this Friday, but most likely will refuse it if there is no parking assist of any kind. That just would be an every day mental annoyance and nag realizing that you drive state of the art computer on wheels with parking assist features from the 80-s (i.e...
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    I am just curious if any of you guys and dolls decided not to take a delivery because of parking/proximity sensors lacking on the Model Y? I have put an order just in case (figured that the most I would lose is $250) and did some research. I use parking sensors on my old car daily and got used...
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    ODD 1/14 10am MST EDD Jan-Mar EDD updated 1/19 to Jan 30 - Feb 27 EDD updated 1/29 to Jan 29-Feb 6 VIN assigned 1/29 (Fremont build) SDD 2/3 white/black/19" cash
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    I only pulled a trigger when the price was reduced even though I don't really need a car (have a perfectly drivable tuned Volvo XC60 2012 with 96K on it). With $7500 tax credit from the feds and the $2000 from the state after all taxes and credits the car will be $48.5K out of pocket, which is...
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/list-of-model-y-configs-that-qualify-for-the-2023-federal-tax-credit.290713/
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    Our family is a long time Volvo aficionado and used to minimalistic interior (none of them had a white exterior though). Test drove my neighbour's blue MY5 and thought that the only color which fits Tesla's spartan interior is really white exterior with black interior (black door handles give it...
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    White(ext)/Black/19 MYLR5, cash option, OD 1/14, EDD popped up today as 1/30-2/27, no VIN yet.
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    Same here. 1/14 order, MYLR white(ext)/black/19". EDD still at Jan-Mar 2023.