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Because Tesla’s competition is not other EVs. It’s ICE cars. They want to replace every ICE car with an EV and hence they would be relentless unless they have a price below ICE cars.

Reject the car unless they are offering a sweet discount. Even with discount insist on getting the issues fixed upfront or get in writing they will fix the issues after taking delivery. Good luck.

To add to what @posity mentioned, the pain of existing customers is momentary. Ultimately, they will end up buying another Tesla at a cheaper price. When you don't find other cars with same value proposition, you have to buy Tesla. Tesla wont be hurt unless it screws up on product quality and...

Wow! Have never seen such granular data. Seems like we have one awesome deal going on right now.

I actually believe that a refreshed Model S/X is closer than we think. Other EV players definitely have a better built car. if Tesla does not move quickly to improve the build (Rattles, Suspension, Noise, Interior Luxury, Range), it would have to continue to drop prices for selling S/X. There is...

I know it’s hard but give yourself time. This shall pass and 5 years from now, hopefully, you remember fun times in the car more than anything else.

I hope if Tesla increases price of its car in a few months, @Kan-O-Z comes out and thanks Tesla as forcefully. Prices go up and down, Sometimes more sometimes less. That does not mean we keep singing same tunes for months. My extended family bought Model S with FSD in January for nearly 120k ...

Can’t agree more!

Well stated! Real estate, stocks, Cars all follow market economies. If a stock goes down, people double down if they believe in the stock. If you need another car, right now is the time to buy.

You have made your point multiple times. Remember, its a paper loss as long as folks can hold the car. Many people lost a lot of money in real estate but those who were able to hold were fine. A year or two from now, the prices maybe higher again especially if some other manufacturers go belly...

We were in a similar position as you and were thinking of upgrading our 2018 Model s 100D with the 23 S. Even went for a test drive to see the 23 version, but was disappointed with the build quality. What I have realized is that while software has improved, all efficiency gains in range have...

There are a lot of people happy also with price reductions and they have an equal right to be on this forum and express their joy. My comment was not to snub you but to help you. We all have lost at some point in our careers from real estate, to stock to cars. People don't start stirring the...

Get over it. Losses happen. Everyone faces losses temporarily and then things normalize. Move on.

Maybe it was a lot of work but why do we have to discuss it or worry about it? The fact is Tesla realized that was a dumb move. Why would anyone pay 79k for a car and get barely 325 miles of range for a Model S. Tesla acts like a startup. Try new things and change it immediately if it does not...

Those who lost money purchasing their cars over last 6-8 months should remember, this shall pass. We bought a used 2018 Model S in summer of 2022 and paid nearly 70K for it. After prices dropped steeply, we were as upset as many in this forum are. But today, I bought a Model X for 80K. All that...

Take a test drive and you would know what we all have been missing in Tesla. It will be an engineering tragedy if Lucid does not survive. We should give same support to it as we gave to Tesla for over a decade. And btw, I love my Model S also.

i agree with all the points you mentioned and have been considering them for a year now. I like the looks of both cars. I plan on keeping Model S. I did confirm my order for Touring yesterday. CarPlay launch sealed it for me. I would want to avoid headaches of car going to a service center...

Really appreciate your detailed feedback. I placed my order for Touring today. With CarPlay available now, things should be smoother going forward.

How often have you faced issues with Lucid? Either software or any hardware malfunction etc? I have read a lot of reports about Cameras not working or being very slow to respond, bluetooth issues and in general sluggishness of their system In responding and doing things in a Timely manner. Many...

I have the same opinion but was hoping I may be able to get feedback if so some who has extensively driven or owned both and can give a more neutral opinion. Most folks on Lucid forum are somewhat biased and hence may bash Tesla more than Lucid. I have a Model S and looking to finalize my...

Sorry, I am Not asking for Elon musk’s views on Lucid. I am asking for views of Owners who drive Lucid. Thanks

I have not. However, one of my coworkers has Taycan and while it’s super sporty, it’s not the kind of car I am looking for. I like super comfy, quiet cars and Lucid fits the bill better. I have heard mixed reviews about EQS and that they have overdone it. I have an option to buy a Touring and...

It will be truly a shame if they don’t survive. Their engineering and space concept is top notch. I hope more buyers embrace them. Am on the fence and could use anyone’s perspective.

Thanks for your response. I have driven Lucid and I agree it’s head and shoulders above Model S. However, the experience after purchase and diving ca be very different than just test driving. Do you own Lucid?

In a curious to hear from anyone who has both Model S and Lucid Air. How has your experience been in driving dynamics, cabin quality, quietness, rattles etc. I have AModel S 2018 and looking to buy a Lucid but curious to hear from anyone who has owned both and can share their experience. Thanks...