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So I do have a weird observation, although perhaps this was just a case of the insurance coverage. My father-in-law is the first Tesla owner in the family and he purchased a used Model X several years ago. May have been a demo model, but he paid about $90k for it at the time. I think 2018/2019...

Depreciation is one thing. Happens naturally and is greater for some cars than others. You roll the dice there, but you generally have an idea of what to expect. Forced depreciation is something else entirely. I put down $30k on my Tesla. Today, my balance is maybe $10k less than I would...

Bought my MSP last January and put down $30k. Today, my loan balance is only a few grand below what the same car would cost me brand new. Gotta love it.

Suspect I'd have to tee up a service appt for them to do the programming.

Thanks - sent that guy an email to see if he'll consider shipping it. And for any of you 2024 owners who'd rather have a Yoke and don't care about the mechanical horn, I've got a Yoke with airbag I'd love to offer up as a 1-for-1 trade!

damn - that's tempting. Are the X and S wheels the same part number? I dropped the $700 to switch my MSP Yoke to the round wheel. For this price would do it again to get a working horn.

I had gloss carbon fiber in my Audi and after almost 10 years I could detect no delamination or the dreaded yellow hue that plagues inferior carbon fiber after a while. In some ways I wish Tesla had gone glossy on the MSP but the matte looks pretty good, so I don't think you can go wrong either...

From their website: Tesla’s Tire Wear & Shudder Issues From the factory, Tesla Model S and Model X cars come with two major design flaws that cause a front end shudder or vibration and shortened rear tire life. The first design flaw is noticed under hard acceleration and presents itself as a...

The plan was to go with 5, but when I went to pick the car up the installer had chosen to not install them because he thought they would rub with my Signature Wheels. After talking to Jamie at Signature and the guys at N2itive, the installer seemed to be the only one who thought rubbing would...

Any rubbing? My installer had concerns and I ultimately elected to follow his advice and not install them but I'm rethinking that decision.

That's a fantastic price. I'm 100% happy with my Signature Wheels, but had I known the BCs were in the same ballpark that would have been a tough decision.

I wasn't paying attention to any of this as I'm overseas and without my car for 2-months, but saw an update was pending for my '22 MSP and allowed it to proceed. I assume if that update carried the free trial that there is no way for me to delay it until I get back. This trial is useful for...

In my case 285/35/20 was the recommended tire from Jamie @ Signature Wheels. Frankly, considering the beating the rear rocker panels/wheel arches are taking from rocks kicked up by the front 285s, I can't imagine going any wider. I will say that at even non-Plaid launches, I am getting wheel...

realized only now that this post is several years old, but the OP stated none of their models work with the S. Looks like they developed the 6000ELX since the initial post, but I now need to figure out whether my 7000TL will work or if I need to sell it and get the 6000ELX instead.

I was not tracking that none of their current models work with the S. I have a new 7000TL that I had hoped to use with my S!

Critically, the airbags are different between the Yoke and the Round wheel, and apparently between the original Yoke and the new center horn Yoke. Without the airbag, not sure what your options really are for your old Yoke if you keep it.

I got to keep my yoke and airbag when I upgraded to the round wheel last year, but I think the airbag was simply because the guy's instructions didn't specifically say I couldn't keep both.

rgr, although so did the round wheel when they installed it in my car. New/different airbag from the yoke that came with the car.

can't recall what I paid for my round steering wheel, but believe it was around $700. Hoping they stick to that pricing scheme.

I'm a year and just under 15k in and it's still an ass pain, but manageable. The far bigger issue is the horn, which still requires me to look for it. If the new wheel with center/airbag horn is a direct fit I'd pay another $700 to switch from my current round wheel to the get back to an...

I have The Original Carbon Guards mudflaps and they are useless. Look decent, but way too narrow to be of any use.

Your experience largely mirrors my own, although we currently have one of each in the garage. Last year around this time I sold my beloved modified C7 S6 and purchased my '22 MSP. In early 2020 we bought my wife's e-Tron SUV at a time when Audi seemingly couldn't give them away. Her e-Tron...

I’m running 285/35/20s all around and have my entire car wrapped in Xpel Stealth. Both rear panels on my car are peppered with about 12k miles or so on the wrap. I don’t care what tire you have on there, if it’s stock width or close you’re catching debris off those panels. I have aftermarket mud...

Thanks brother. That's what I'm doing now, but so far the covers I've tried have been fairly loose. I'm used to needing that tool to pull them off my Audi, but on the Tesla just hitting them with my knuckles while washing the car dislodges them.

Jamie, or anyone else: Any idea where I can find a set of black lug nuts that are not/not titanium in the factory/short length? I bought a set of black Gorilla lugs and they are very long. I prefer the flush look but don't need the added expense of titanium.

I have been caught out in cold snaps with summer tires on other cars and have never experienced this until my MSP, but then again I have never run a tire this wide on any vehicle. Could be whatever compound/formula Michelin uses on their summers, but I just remounted my factory wheels/tires and...

You don't say.

Had to hoist my Arachnids onto my wheel rack for storage and they are indeed the heaviest set of wheels/tires I think I've picked up in my 20 years of mounting/dismounting wheels.

Body metal probably plays a big part in the weight difference. Whereas I suspect the Porsche is made of the solid stuff, my MSP hood feels like it's made of plastic and comes with a warning that I might damage it if I push down too hard to close it in the wrong areas. I leaned against the rear...

Good looking wheel. Would love to see a set in gloss black on a Model S.

I have more of an issue with Tesla's inconsistency. I'm not having any of the issues you are. Auto high beams work, though I am annoyed that if I intentionally flash someone it seems to disable auto high beams for a while in my car. Automatic windshield washers work for me, though it's hit or...

RGR - so long as the startup vibration is not the same as the 30-40mph vibration, we are talking about different things. This thread is the first 'm hearing about a startup vibration. Was tracking the 30-40ish vibration and some folks reporting a high-speed vibration.

That's the main vibration that most people immediately noticed. There now appears to be a second high-speed vibration. I have the former, but not the latter. There are suggestions that it's worse in cold weather. I took delivery in January and immediately noticed it. Has never quite really...

I thought someone posted pics a while back that showed actual gouge marks on the half shafts. Would have to try and track the post down, but I recall actual, visible, physical damage to the half shafts that ultimately resulted in Tesla replacing that individual's half shafts.

Not what I wanted to hear. I have my n2itive lowering links collecting dust in a box and had planned on reinstalling them when I return to the factory 21s for winter. We've seen actual photos of the half shaft damage though, so if it's not the angle, what could be causing this?

Appreciate the write-up! Fortunately for me a solution has been found and it came in the form of a Tesla Mobile Tech. After resolving a passenger side safety restraint malfunction warning I asked the Tech to take a look at my seat issue. He felt pretty confident the seat back should be able...

Not to mention allowing those folks who don't have $15k sitting around to roll it into the price of their financing. Baffling decision since other than the scenario where Tesla is providing the financing, they are getting the money whether the person shows up with financing or buys it through...

rgr - appreciate the advice.

got it - thanks. I think we're all tracking the implications and most of us who are doing the links to mitigate the half-shaft wear have also installed the adjustable camber arms to deal with the tire wear issue.

Jamie felt pretty strongly they wouldn't rub, but the local shop was super skittish about it if they aligned to N2itive's recommended alignment specs. I ultimately skipped the links to prioritize saving tires, but the more I think about it, the more I'm inclined to install them and see if it's...

Had an incident where a fella who should have seen me coming apparently did not and with probably about 10 yards between us made a left turn from a side road as I was almost on top of him doing just below the 45mph speed limit. I had to swerve to avoid him while instinctively trying to smash...

Out of curiosity, what wheel size are you running, and did you have any rubbing issues with the N2itive parts and following their alignment specs with your wheels? I'm running Signature Wheels in 20" size (don't have the exact specs on me) but my local shop seemed absolutely sure I would rub if...

I paid about $800 to get mine painted and thought that was on the high end for what it was. Not sure I'd drop $1600 and change on them if the only thing different is the color.

if someone has details on how you did this and pics, I'd love to see it. By far my biggest issue with the car.

I'm coming out of a C7 S6 and 20 years of nothing but Audis in the garage until my MSP. I ended up sourcing my own rotors (Adam's) and pads, but I recall the stealership quoting me something outrageous for a brake job on the S6. But having sourced the pads on my own, I don't recall them being...

I have a '22 with the older pre-red caliper brakes and would tend to agree with you. For day-to-day stopping I haven't had any issues and most of my stopping doesn't involve actually using the brake pedal at all. For that reason I have not given considered the Track Package or even upgrading...

Unclear to me on the calipers, to be honest. I recall the original snippet on the website only mentioning higher thermal capacity brake pads and red calipers, but don't recall seeing anything that actually said the calipers had been changed or redesigned in any way. I suspect the calipers are...

RGR. Not sure I want to mess with the pleather, but may have to look into that. What I really need is for the seat-back to come forward maybe another 6-12" and it would be perfect. As it is, the closest I can get to my preferred seating position is to incline the back of the seat itself as...

No, and I own a Plaid. I bought it because the price was within my acceptable range but I've launched the thing twice (back-to-back on same day to finally try it) in the c/a 8k miles and 8-months I've owned it. I have also evolved into the "I know I can demolish 99% of the cars I encounter on...

Having a hard time understanding how anyone justifies the Yoke. That said, I have one with about 2k or so miles on it sitting in my garage. I think I'd sell mine right now for the right price if Tesla's new pricing is accurate. Anyone paying $1k for that thing is absolutely nuts.