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    2022+ Model X Refresh front bumper retrofit on 2016+ Legacy

    All MS and refresh MX beside the old model pre 2021 don't have Lin slave inside the fog light. Pre MX 2021 all use Lin bus and the slave is inside the foglight. I don't know why they changed it in the older MX, but that's the reason you can modified all MS but not older MX.
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    2021 Model S front bumper on older models

    Don't they have a fuse for protection on communication lin? Btw, the car ride and work normal. My high beam somehow able to select again even without the foglight. With all those pins rearranging back and forth I might shorted both old and refresh foglights for me to test it. Like you said...
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    2017 Model X, no left turning signal on dashboard while turning lights are on. enhanced autopilot can not engage left turn.

    Did replacing the front foglight and sensor hardness fix the issue? I have the same problem, exterior turn signal are on but the interior car screen show no blinking and sound.
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    Anyone have issues with their insurance for a Tesla?

    https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-insurance/
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    About to switch to Tesla Insurance for much less in premium......any catch?

    https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-insurance/
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    Buy parts from salvaged Model S and X

    Anyone have any of this 2 part. Is the bracket for the fender and hood welded together. I need #8 more if you have #6, I take both.
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    2022+ Model X Refresh front bumper retrofit on 2016+ Legacy

    Damn, my X somehow gave me this error object detected on top of the glass. I see nothing there and have clear or clean everything in sight. Anyone have a clue where i should look?
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    Reason why it's here too is alot of S wants to convert the new look but non was able to get it done. Since S and X have similarity, knowing that X works confirm that it can be work for the S except S have turn signal in the headlight. I think there's one in the X forum too about this conversion.
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    Correction: Old and refresh model foglight turn on when headlight and DRL are on.
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    Once my car come back from repairing, I will look into it. But it's more promising than zero knowledge than before. At least we know what wire or pin do what. Found out the fog light turn on with DRL at the same time for the refresh model. Since I don't have my car with me, I can't verify if...
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    Here's the diagram for both old and refresh model. If im not mistaken it seem the old fog light need headlight pin 5 LIN to get the foglight to work. Pin 1 and 4 vbatt is controlled by ECU (not sure if one for fog and side marker) Pin 2 Ti-Sync is turn signal and 3, 6 are ground. Refresh: All...
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    Did you able to see if the old board fit into the new fog light housing?
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    From the look of the old main board comparing to the new foglight, it looks bigger to the new fog. Let me know if you open the new foglight and if there's room, It should be easy to get it to work
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    Falcon Wing Door false obstacle detection

    Now I have the obstacle detected issue shown in yellow but I can't seem to find anything block it. Door able to close but it make a beep sound that causes the open/close button disable on the door side.
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    I've stop working on for awhile. Been very busy. You try it and let me know
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    Look at your old bumper vs the refresh, the middle top part are different on the refresh. You will need to cut both top part to weld+glue it back to match the old bumper (mine all in white with glue and weld) . You will see it when you get a hand on both of them.
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    Falcon Wing Door false obstacle detection

    Do you have a picture of where this sensor are at, thanks? I like to check it out. Door can't be fully close.
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    Here's the picture. I didn't have a chance to repaint the bumper.
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    2021 Model S front bumper on older models

    I haven't touch my car for 2 weeks. Been busy lately. It suck that MX is not as easy as MS by moving somel pins. I was waiting if someone might figure it out. Hate to tear up the both old and new fogs and then one day someone got it to work.
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    How do you get those parts? I tried with SC and they rejected my order.
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    Nice rear, lol. Got picture of the bottom diffuser to show everyone on how you done your mounting?
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    Sorry guys, they cancel my order because it wasn't compatible. I'm not in a hurry for the rear diffuser. The hard part is both front and rear tow hook cover are hard to come by and they are very expensive compared to $11 for the rear and maybe cheaper for the front from SC.
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    I was able to order the 2021+ refresh valance ($310), diffuser ($125) and tow hook ($11) from SC for my 2019 MX. But I decline the valance since $310 was too much. Will see if I get any update and the arrival date.
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    2021 Model S front bumper on older models

    Thanks, I will try that next. But i know for sure even without the front fog light or turn signal on, my cluster of the car still show the blinking signal and noise and the main unit highlight the fog switch before this happens. Like you said I might short somewhere and how foglight disable...
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    2021 Model S front bumper on older models

    The old model X and refresh used the same foglight plug beside old X have double ground compared to the refresh 1. When plug in, foglight stay on abd connot be turn off inside also there's no turn signal. I've tries your diagram Hotboy408, and also every combinations beside the ground switch...
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    2021 Model S front bumper on older models

    So is your 6 pins MX foglight retrofit work normal with the re-pin? So your fog light now can turn on and off? What about the amber turn signal, did you not use it since MS already have the trun signal?
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    2022+ Model X Refresh front bumper retrofit on 2016+ Legacy

    It might work but I never try it. I got one from offerup for $100 (got lucky). Reason I chose buying the refresh one because it more easy and fast fitment. Using the only one you might need to cut the bottom piece since the refresh already have it and then fitting all the clip to hold the bottom...
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    2022+ Model X Refresh front bumper retrofit on 2016+ Legacy

    Trust me it will work. Doing my way is way cheaper and you don't have to pay a ton of money and times especially tearing the entire front and replacing every parts to all the refresh model, that's ridiculous. And who know with all the refresh parts it might mess up your car and SC probably...
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    2022+ Model X Refresh front bumper retrofit on 2016+ Legacy

    Sorry I totally forgot how it look like. Just search on ebay with that part number. I think there's only one that's showing up and compare it. Reason you use the refresh valance model is that they fit the new refresh bumper perfectly and same for the rear diffuser. As for both parts, only thing...
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    2021 Model S front bumper on older models

    How do you get the foglight to work? I have the MX and MS are not far of a big difference beside that they don't have the amber turn signal and they used 3 pins like model 3 and Y aside from MX used 6 pins plug. The foglight connection plug of the old and refresh MX is plug and play but they...
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    2022+ Model X Refresh front bumper retrofit on 2016+ Legacy

    I saw one just now for $299 with $80 shipping from ebay. Unless you have no other choice I wouldn't buy it. I know from Tesla SC you probably get them half the price or less. I saw one guy bought 2 pieces for the rear and he dont have the refresh model. I wonder how he does it.
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    2022+ Model X Refresh front bumper retrofit on 2016+ Legacy

    I meant mount the old fog internal board into a seal box.
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    2022+ Model X Refresh front bumper retrofit on 2016+ Legacy

    I was contemplating over and over about the two fogs. It look like the refresh fog have no room to mount the old board, but I might be wrong. Another way we can make it work is mount the old fog into a weather seal box and buy the 6 pins connectors male and female with wiring harness so its...
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    2022+ Model X Refresh front bumper retrofit on 2016+ Legacy

    Remember you need to cut the old bumper reinforcement end to fit the foglight and bottom for air duct. Also Tesla will not sell you the parts unless you know a way. Once you included the refresh part number, they will automatically cancel the request.
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    2022+ Model X Refresh front bumper retrofit on 2016+ Legacy

    Those are exactly the part number for all those bracket. I copy exactly from Tesla model X refresh. Sometime when you buy used refresh bumoer, it doesn't come complete. I know the large one around $45 and the 2 small one cost $25 each from Tesla.
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    I have list what part we need to retrofit to 2022+ refresh bumper on your Model X section. Please check there
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    2022+ Model X Refresh front bumper retrofit on 2016+ Legacy

    No need to ask China to make a modified refresh bumper to sell it. Beside the clip holes along the chrome grill, any handy person or shop can do it. But thanks for looking out! What we need is how to get both foglights to work without any modification. Without it, this refresh is useless. But...
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    2022+ Model X Refresh front bumper retrofit on 2016+ Legacy

    FRONT RETROFIT PARTS: 1. Use your old parking sensor and brackets. 2. Refresh valance and old undertray aeroshield need to be modified. 3. Old bumper slotted clip holes, end holes and center screw mount along the upper grille chrome need to be cut from old and swapped to the refresh. (Use...
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    I'm referring to retrofitting the refresh front bumber to the old model. Just buy those parts i mentioned above and the front valance. As for the rear you'll need the lower bumper fascia/tow cover and diffuser. Both the refresh valance and diffusion will need some modification with the old...
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    Doing Rockwell way will cost alot of money and times just to transform the whole front end into the refresh 2022+ for one bumper. I've thought about it before and decided not to mess around with the whole original components and choose another way. I was able to used the refresh bumper to have...
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    After playing with all different combinations, both of my FRONT foglights, and amber signals light doesn't turn on anymore even if there's registered voltage. My instrument turn signal doesnt make any sound and it doesnt illuminate anymore. The select foglight turn on/off doesn't work or...
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    Let us know the outcome on how it look. From looking at the pictures the center seem to work, but the side look different. Didn't one of Rockwell rear picture said it a direct fit?
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    Yes the one in the picture showing the back side. I just bought another set of the Model X with 6 pins. I will post the picture later tomorrow if anyone interested. This foglight retrofit are giving everyone a problem even with the correct connector. Like Rockwell said, the fastest and...
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    If anyone want to convert their Model S or just need a fog light for both sides MS, I can sell them since I bought it for the wrong car. Just PM me.
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    Did my confirmed wiring diagram work on the fog light and turn signal or it make no difference?
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    Wow, there's 2 versions. The one I bought came with 3 pins and There's also a 6 pins.
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    How does the old 6 pins connection fit the new 3 pins fog light? Is there another version of fog light connector that I wasn't aware off?
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    Verifying the fog light connection on the old Model X RIGHT side with this HOT dry heat. This wasn't easy with my daughter helping out turning on/off the headligh, fog light and turn signal like 40x. Sorry for my bad drawing. I know on Model 3 LEFT side with 3 pins. Purple wire (left) is...
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    Refresh 2021 front bumper facelift on 2016+?

    There's 3 parts that needed to retrofit the new bumper to work and keep everything original. 1) The hardest part for this bumper to fit perfectly is to cut old center top edges hole clips from old then plastic weld them to the new bumper. 2) Next is to cut the old duct and plastic weld them...