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  1. Kelculate

    Recurrent: Model 3 drivers got 72% of EPA range with new cars, 64% after three years

    To be a bit fair to Recurrent, other media outlets took the article and made a lot of sensational headlines and articles out of that. I can see why Recurrent want to use their own data to show degradation, but their choice of Y axis label was either deliberately chosen to generate headlines or...
  2. Kelculate

    Recurrent: Model 3 drivers got 72% of EPA range with new cars, 64% after three years

    Also, Recurrent never corrected the EPA range for 2023 M3LR, thinking that it is 358 miles instead of 333 miles for that year. I even e-mailed them about it last year. My car reported a lifetime 233Whr/mi efficiency, which is slightly better than EPA rating
  3. Kelculate

    What battery cells are in the 2023 M3 LR?

    I recently charged my 2023 M3LR (manufactured in the same month) to 80%. It showed 265 mi EPA range, which means roughly 331.25mi at 100%, compared with 333mi when new. Also less than 1%
  4. Kelculate

    Home charging has become more expensive than Supercharging at night. Should I still charge at home?

    Thanks for pointing out the cost of pre conditioning the battery. Fortunately for me I live in a warm climate and I park my car in a garage. But it is still a factor to consider if my only objective is to minimize cost. Tesla never mentions anything to the customers that lower state of charge...
  5. Kelculate

    Home charging has become more expensive than Supercharging at night. Should I still charge at home?

    Thank you for pointing that out. Given how close the station is to my home, it seems like I will need to enter the supercharging address in navigation and wait 30 minutes in the garage before actually driving it. I will see if I can just leave the door open and get back to the house during that...
  6. Kelculate

    Home charging has become more expensive than Supercharging at night. Should I still charge at home?

    Thanks so much everyone. Big shoutout to @AAKEE for the detailed answer. I will remember to pre condition the battery before the occasional Supercharging.
  7. Kelculate

    Home charging has become more expensive than Supercharging at night. Should I still charge at home?

    I probably didn’t phrase the question properly. It is supposed to be about Supercharing’s impact to battery. I was hoping to hear opinions from those who study batteries like @AAKEE. But thanks for those who replied and tried to help.
  8. Kelculate

    Home charging has become more expensive than Supercharging at night. Should I still charge at home?

    Yes. Even on EV plan the cheapest I get is close to that. Which means I understated my savings at Supercharging. It is close to double that, it costs 24 cents per kWh after 11pm.
  9. Kelculate

    Home charging has become more expensive than Supercharging at night. Should I still charge at home?

    I never said charging is free at work. Just it is the cheapest option for me by far. Still, the question remains about the impact of Supercharging to battery health. I mean, financially I don’t really have to care about battery degradation either, but I still follow the low SOC strategy. So...
  10. Kelculate

    Home charging has become more expensive than Supercharging at night. Should I still charge at home?

    The electricity rate has increased so much that even off peak unit rate is higher than Superchargers, and I live very near a Supercharging station (about 1.3 miles). It would save me about 5 cents a kWh to use it for charging. I mostly charge in the office using an level 2 charger, but...
  11. Kelculate

    What battery cells are in the 2023 M3 LR?

    I am a 2023 M3 LR owner, and my car (built in August 2023) is reporting 233Whr/mi lifetime since I took delivery late August. With a 78.8kWhr battery, that would translate to ~338 mile range in real life and it is very close to the EPA rated range, and obviously Tesla never lets a car to go too...
  12. Kelculate

    What battery cells are in the 2023 M3 LR?

    I have been following the low SOC strategy that you recommend btw.
  13. Kelculate

    What battery cells are in the 2023 M3 LR?

    Yes I am one (M3 LR built in August 2023) and yes I did see 333mi on my car when it was at 100%. Haven’t charged to 100% recently but Recurrent thinks my car’s range is 332 and that also matches the calculated range from my usually 50% battery level. For example, right now at 27% the car thinks...
  14. Kelculate

    How is my LFP battery holding up after 2 years?

    That is 5.2% in almost two years, which I think is quite good?
  15. Kelculate

    How is my LFP battery holding up after 2 years?

    Thanks. Right now it displays the advertised 333mi range next to the battery icon when it is 100%.
  16. Kelculate

    How is my LFP battery holding up after 2 years?

    I am a relatively new Tesla owner (took delivery just over 6 weeks ago). Are you saying that when the battery has some degradation, the car’s range as displayed next to the battery icon will be lower while the percentage is at 100%?
  17. Kelculate

    Discussion: Model 3 Price reductions - Jan / April / Oct 2023 and all other pricing discussions

    The only interesting observation for me is that during the past quarter, within 200 miles of my home, the best price of the existing inventory was available in mid to late August, not September. So if you are trying to take advantage of inventory discount, keep checking
  18. Kelculate

    Discussion: Model 3 Price reductions - Jan / April / Oct 2023 and all other pricing discussions

    They completely removed the inventory discount after this price change. At some point, they would bring it back, but I am not sure if the same 10% off would be offered. Selfishly I am hoping that my $42520 price for LR AWD would remain the best price available in my area until project Highland...
  19. Kelculate

    Battery Degradation question

    Not sure if it is proof that my car’s battery improved. Today it showed 333mi at 100%. But quickly dropped that to 332mi as soon as I left the supercharger mall and onto the main road.
  20. Kelculate

    Battery Degradation question

    Thanks for the explanation. I remember it was at 332mi even at 99% (I was sitting inside using a supercharger), and I was a bit surprised it was not 333 when it reached 100%. But maybe as you said, somehow the battery already suffered a loss from 78 to 77.8. I am not sure I would want to charge...
  21. Kelculate

    Battery Degradation question

    Finally charged my car (2023 M3LR dual motor) to 100%. Still showing the same 77.8kWh and ~333mi rated range. Wonder if any other owner sees the same
  22. Kelculate

    Battery Degradation question

    Thanks. Do I need to do anything to cycle the battery for it to reach the maximum capacity? Or just try to keep SOC low during storage?
  23. Kelculate

    Battery Degradation question

    Thanks. So the degradation is normal for my car? Also can you explain why the battery capacity would increase after a few months?
  24. Kelculate

    Battery Degradation question

    Here we go. Looks like it is at 77.8kWh. Full is 78.1kWh, is that correct?
  25. Kelculate

    Battery Degradation question

    Thanks. Sure, will do that. Probably do 80% tomorrow. May do 100% next week if I take a road trip.
  26. Kelculate

    Battery Degradation question

    363 mi is the number on Recurrent for my car "EPA: 363 mi". At 2023 Tesla Model 3 Long Range AWD it is still 358mi. The Monroney sticker shows 333mi though. To do energy graph calculation, I'll need to charge to 80% or more. So I'll wait for a time when I need to charge the car that much.
  27. Kelculate

    Discussion: Model 3 Price reductions - Jan / April / Oct 2023 and all other pricing discussions

    They are pretty easy to deal with I have to say. I was monitoring a month back. Found a very good price at a far away location, and before I took delivery, I saw one with exact same configuration and price at a nearer location. They allowed me to switch when I called them, and even offered to...
  28. Kelculate

    Battery Degradation question

    Anyone using Recurrent on the 2023 M3 LR? Tesla advertised 333mi range but EPA actually says 363mi. Recurrent is reporting my new car (manufactured 08/23) at 334mi but considers that degraded based on 363mi. Anyone seeing the same or did my battery really degrade that much despite being kept at...
  29. Kelculate

    Discussion: Model 3 Price reductions - Jan / April / Oct 2023 and all other pricing discussions

    Hopefully wont' take very long. Thanks for the tip!
  30. Kelculate

    Discussion: Model 3 Price reductions - Jan / April / Oct 2023 and all other pricing discussions

    Thanks. I called and they even agreed to move the closer car to the closest location to my home. But now I have wait for a new delivery appointment and it is not ready to be set up yet.
  31. Kelculate

    Discussion: Model 3 Price reductions - Jan / April / Oct 2023 and all other pricing discussions

    I am in a similar situation, where I see same config same price at a closer location. I texted them about it but by the time they replied the closer one was no longer available. Did you just call the closer location?