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I have been watching Taycan Turbo prices for 6 months or so in Switzerland. Indeed, easily a 50% initial hit, but from that point on, asking prices have only gone down by maybe 10% in the past 6 months which is when the refresh model was released. Time will tell, and it seems that used buyers...

Well if for one moment we disregard bragging rights, a well equipped Taycan plus a Porsche Approved warranty which can be renewed yearly seems to be a compelling alternative. The car is plenty fast enough! What is lost in range and one pedal driving is made up for by build quality, handling and...

Honestly I don't think so. Tesla need to move cars as their top priority. The buyback business is a hurdle they have to deal with.

I have written here a few weeks ago that the delivery window for a new Plaid order from Europe was very much longer in the case of the Plaid versus the LR. It is still ilke this. I believe there is something happening that is Plaid-specific. Consider the following motivations to do something to...

I took a Model S for a test drive. I am 182 cm (6 ft) tall and the only way to get a decent view of the speedometer resulted in poor seating comfort and ergonomy. The fact that this screenshot was from a parked car does not change the position of the speedometer which is always hidden. And the...

Remind me: where is the speedometer on this pic? Yes, right. Hiden behind the steering wheel. Stupid design, arrogant and blatantly incompetent product mangement. Catastrophic leadership... Why do I have to look for an aftermarket steering wheel when buying a 100 K car. And why do I have to...

I just checked lead times for a Model S delivered to Europe. For some reason, Long Range is Feb-March, whereas Plaid is now April-May. US deliveries are Jan-Feb in both cases. Wondering what can explain this difference.

Weird. On the Swiss web site, the delivery time is very different for the Model S LR versus the Plaid. Februrary March for LR and April-May for Plaid. What could this mean?

Thank you for taking the time. I understand this and the following makes me raise an eyebrow at Tesla: You say that the pre-programmed torque limiting algorithm is unable to adapt to vehicle loading and/or to different / tyre characteristics and that this is left to the traction control system...

Why would torque be limited by horsepower ? I can accept that torque is affected by motor RPM - is this what you mean? Also: are you suggesting that traction loss resulting from lower weight will be large enough to negate the benefit of reduced weight in F=m*a? Wouldn't that imply that Model S...

Thank you LA2Naples. Much appreciated. I will not hijack the thread further.

Hi LA2Naples. Congrats on your new MS, I hope you'll enjoy it. Me I am (still) thinking Plaid vs Taycan 4S and you're probably in an ideal position to help me decide if I may bother you. Where I live (Switzerland), the market is flooded with very recent Taycans. I did hear the warning about...

You'll find on the EPA web site a detailed mathematical model of EACH car sold in the US. It allows you to compute the total resistance to advancement (so called Road Load). It is pretty amazing and incredibly precise (whether it is accurate I can't judge but there seem to be serious fines for...

Force = mass Acceleration (a) is related to propulsive force (F) and mass (m) as follows: F = m*a. Therefore a = F/m Keeping F constant, lower mass will result in proportionally higher acceleration: 50% less mass will double acceleration. How the propulsive force F is produced is marginally...

On the Engineering Perspective youtube channel, they found and compared the published EPA data about fuel efficiency of the various Model S wheel options. The real world difference between the 19 inch + aero cover and 21 inch Arachnid is documented! I found this graph particularly useful. It...

I think Tesla is trying to optimize the monthly lease, regardless of what part is interest. Under the present circumstances, reintroducing the base model makes sense and my bet is that it will not push up the list price of the LR and Plaid. High interest rates are a blessing to cash buyers...

3 facts: 1) As of mid August 2023, Tesla was filing paperwork for the reintroduction of the "Standard Range" Model S. 2) A sports seat package is in the works for the Plaid. 3) The cabling for the addition of ambient lighting is present in all post 2021 refresh vehicles As to parking...

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I think this is a totally reasonable post applied to a totally unreasonable proposition. People who buy Plaids (probably me, soon) do not think this way. The Plaid is ridiculously excessive and there is no rational justification for it from 99% of buyers who are not drag racers. When we buy a...

I like this discussion, but before saying another word I must state again that I am new to Tesla with all of 12 hours of demo time on a Model S 23. So take all I say as just chit chat with an interested guy - I am not pretending that I know anything. Earlier in the thread I estimated...

I am compiling a list of brake and wheel part weights in order to help make informed decisions with regards to weight saving options. So far, I can share the following data. Preamble: the unsprung mass of the 4 stock 19 inch wheels plus brakes EXCLUDING suspension parts is: Tires: 120 lbs...

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No. Is it bad enough to be a deal breaker?

I am new to Tesla - wanted to order a Model S Plaid. Tesla offered me a test drive in a regular Model S. The car worked well and was impressively smooth and powerful. The one pedal driving was especially wonderful. What made me have second thoughts is the way Tesla considers customers and...

Interesting, thank you! I am tinkering with the idea of buying an aftermarket "yoke-based" full wheel with that odd shape that frees up the view to the instruments. That is if /when Tesla make the car good enough for me to throw 100K at it...

I took a look at your web site. How much lighter is your carbon hood vs the aluminum part? also FWIW I have collected from a very long thread here the following info: Your car looks awesome., but I'd be scared of even leaving the center line for fear of scratching anything! Thanks for the...

Hello everyone, I am new here and it will be my first Tesla. I did a test drive with a 2023 Model S and found many things I loved and enough I hated that I am now sitting on the side line waiting for the fix to Tesla Vision. If and when I buy, it will be an S Plaid (for the engineering prowess...

After a lot of tweaking, I managed to find a compromise: I could see the speed indication, half of the speed limit indication and at least my right arm was comfortably rested. I have been driving BMWs for a long time and was always able to adjust seat and steering wheel to perfect ergonomics...

Hello! I am new here on a test drive week-end with a base (long range) model S. I am actually interested in buying a Plaid, as my first Tesla - some kind of "Tesla-virgin" and they lent me this for testing as no Plaids were available. I need advice regarding ... seating position. Despite...

My wife and I just went for another ride. parking assist is buggy and the car screams frequently when driving in a narrow street with hedges. Given the inaccurate sensing on the front side, it is really too much of a nuisance with no benefit. I love some things about the car but this is not the...

I am a prospective buyer of a Plaid. Got a Model S (non Plaid) loaner. While forward-parking I stopped 3 ft (1 meter) before the curb because the car was telling me that there was an obstacle in front. Is this the really how it works? How will they fix it with no sensors?