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    Model 3 Performance/Ludicrous Waiting Room

    Yes, that was me who mentioned this. I had a slight vibration at higher speeds, usually indicating a balance issue. The issue was resolved. I was going to rebalance anyhow, regardless of whether I removed the inserts or not. I'm not saying this will be the case for everyone, but I'm a stickler...
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    One option to consider, which I know they will honor, is to drive the car for a bit, so that it can be enjoyed. As long as you place the service request within the first 100 miles, you don't necessarily need to surrender the vehicle right away. On my last M3P, I kept it for like 1-2 months...
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    Yes, that was my general thinking as well, but upon checking each wheel, they were *definitely* out of balance (after removing the caps). In fact, one of them was significantly out of balance even before removing the caps. Perhaps it has something to do with the location of the weight needed to...
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    Model 3 Performance/Ludicrous Waiting Room

    Hey everyone, I took delivery on Sunday, 6/23. Below is my honest assessment and some basic pictures. I’m sure some will disagree with my overall assessment. I’m not trying to start a long conversation (or debate), but just providing my perspective. 😊 Order Date- 4/27 Phoenix, AZ Most recent...
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    I think the front looks great open, but the rear calipers are a bit small to be exposed.
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    Good point! I think I'm going to head over to Discount Tire (my buddy is the location Mgr.) and have them dismount and remove the blades from the rear, as suggested above, to see how it goes. If the residue comes off, then cool. If not, then I can a) place a service request and see if they will...
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    Agreed. I think the wheels looks decent either way (with or without the blades). My bigger gripe is that they designed the wheel this way in the first place. I assume most performance buyers aren't super concerned about the tiny range increase. If so, they'd move to the LR instead. They could...
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    That was my original thought, but in the video he shows legit scratches/grooves where they dig into the wheel (in a visible area).
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    Here's an interesting video claiming that there is *no* way to remove the aero inserts without leaving some scratches. :/ Still debating whether to leave them or not. I prefer the open look and don't really care too much about a 2% (or so) loss of range. If I remove them and find scratches, will...
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    I just want to thank everyone for their insight and advice along the way! In particular, for clueing me in to the fact that there are now performance demo models available. I was able to snag one this morning that was already “in transit” to my designated pickup location. The vehicle was not...
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    Model 3 Performance/Ludicrous Waiting Room

    For me, when it was my single car the M3P was like $180/mo (perfect driving record). Dropped to $150-ish with two cars. $92/month, even with a 4 car policy is good! Take it.
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    Do you mean that Tesla customers who are undecided on what model to buy, generally speaking, don't want this setup? Or do you mean that those who are *already* buying the M3P don't want that wheel/tire setup? For those who have already made the decision to go with the M3P, I feel that it's...
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    This is possible. But I can also see the opposite happening. They may revert to the earlier $52,990 price to increase M3P demand, while also keeping LR demand high, which was obviously low for a month or two. With a base model price gap of $5,500 between the two models, this seems like a "middle...
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    Just saw this too. That makes the LR only about $1000 more than the SR, if one qualifies for the credit. https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/tesla-model-3-s-micro-price-adjustment-continued-into-june-tax-credit-confirmed/ar-BB1onYIX?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=0d8d0baab2b74b8396deb5f777392439&ei=11
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    The approval period lasts from 30-60 days depending on the lender, per Tesla. However, you don't know which lender they'll use (as they have a group of lenders), so it's best to assume 30 days, not 60, just in case.
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    I still can't find you on the tracker. Is your username the same? There are only 9 AZ cars total. Maybe the Google sheet is messed up again. Dang...today would have been the most perfect coincidence to get my VIN as I literally just sold my car this morning. She's gone! :/ Am I the only one who...
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    Model 3 Performance/Ludicrous Waiting Room

    Congrats! I don't see a VIN yet for mine. Was really hoping to be on the truck with you and "Here Comes the Sun." Hoping the VIN comes soon. :-0
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    That's what I'm hoping for as well. My EDD changed to 6/13 to 6/27 a week ago and has been creeping one day forward starting on 6/13. Now it's 6/15 to 6/28. Given that we are both PHX deliveries, maybe there is some logic to this (i.e., we are in the same batch/delivery). I don't see you on the...
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    The overall logistics might be tied up given the massive MY production/delivery push, but there isn't necessarily any reason to prioritize MY over M3P production, given that the M3P is, on average, priced higher than the MY (excluding the MYP). I would think that in addition to overall...
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    My delivery location, for some reason, defaulted to Mesa. My SA recommended switching to Raintree, given the higher volume and higher SES of the area (i.e., possibly more performances going there, etc.). Not sure if this has any merit, but it didn't seem to hurt or push things back. Knock on...
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    I'm hoping we are in the exact same batch/delivery. 4/27 order (also Phoenix)- SG/White. My dates were 6/18 to 6/30 and moved in to 6/13 to 6/27 on Saturday. I'm assuming that since the dates moved in, they won't move back out again, unless they're trying to be sadistic. Are you also set to...
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    Model 3 Performance/Ludicrous Waiting Room

    I asked this question awhile back and didn't hear anything. I'm interested in the WH/Mile average over 100+ miles in insane mode exclusively, with some mixed driving habits. It'd be great to see the efficiency difference, if any, from the outgoing model, with this much more power. Is anyone able...
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    They won't. They "soft" promised me this too, but it did not work. :/ Not to be conspiratorial, but I get the weird feeling that these dates are all connected, and someone is maximizing "profit." *Edit---if you get lucky and they extend it, then let us know, so I can complain. LOL. Kidding.
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    Take delivery and drive it on the trip! Assuming you don't have to cross any oceans. Does the M3P float like a cybertruck? :cool:
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    "Scam" is definitely hyperbolic, but considering that the online order page stated "June delivery" until yesterday (6/5), there is certainly some false advertising. I highly doubt that anyone who ordered on June 5th will get their car before July, considering that some of our April orders are...
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    For anyone interested in a private sale, I used "Caramel" to sell my M3P. The platform was fantastic! They cater to those who still have a lien on their vehicle. I was able to sell my car to someone else who also brought it an outside loan, which would be total nightmare trying to do the...
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    Try goof off/goo gone. It's super gentle. I've used that on delicate surfaces, such as the white dash on my M3P and it worked. If that doesn't work, then I'd place the ticket.
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    Sorry! I did read the post, but must have skipped the top paragraph and went straight to the pictures. LOL. I prefer the caps removed, but if the wheels are scratched, even at all, I'd get them replaced, or keep the caps on personally. Fingers crossed that they are good. Do you think the...
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    Totally subjective, but I 100% agree with this. The stealth grey is the stealthiest, of course. The red does look amazing in person, but it's too flashy. Also, I'm a weirdo and absolutely despise plastic bits all over my car. I actually like the outgoing M3P in this regard, as the bumpers are...
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    Was there some damage to the wheel under the aero caps? When I took one of the caps off on the showroom model, the wheels looked really gross (and scratched). I plan to remove all of them during inspection so that new wheels can be added to the "list of issues" to be fixed up front. I have some...
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    I feel like we can easily resolve this/get a clear answer if someone who has taken delivery can simply post their "lifetime" (albeit a short lifetime) WH/Mile number from their screen. This would ideally be a mixture of driving (local, freeway, slow, fast, etc.) for 100 miles or so. That's all...
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    Once you get connected with a SA (through the phone center, not the showroom), ask for their direct line. My SA gave it to me, along with his weekly work schedule and I can call him any time to ask questions and see what's going on. If he doesn't pick up, then he's on the other line. I call back...
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    Model 3 Performance/Ludicrous Waiting Room

    Tesla rates are back to 6.39% as of today (6/1). It looks like they make the change (if necessary) on the first of the month. Yay! I save a whole $2/month, but my payment is $15/month more due to the trade-in decline. :/
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    Model 3 Performance/Ludicrous Waiting Room

    Well, as I mentioned, I prefer a square setup for cost/simplicity, but Tesla went with the staggered 235/275 setup for a specific reason. Here's what Tesla has to say about it. If you utilize the calculator (linked below) and input the variables for both tires, you'll find that the total contact...
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    Model 3 Performance/Ludicrous Waiting Room

    I have to disagree with this point. While cornering performance might be a secondary benefit, the contact patch is bigger on a 275 MM tire vs. a 235 MM tire. There are some additional variables at play, such as tire pressure and load, but this shouldn't negate the 40 MM difference in contact...
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    Model 3 Performance/Ludicrous Waiting Room

    I feel for you, man! I was in the same position and almost sold, but decided not to at the last minute, given the fluctuating dates. The lack of transparency and clarity is horrible. Let's meet up in Old Town sometime when we finally get the SG Teslas. LOL
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    Model 3 Performance/Ludicrous Waiting Room

    That's fine. Your opinion is respected as well. You could be a bit more specific, though. If you're referring to the tire choice debate, I agree that it is all contingent on local conditions. As I stated, in AZ, summer tires work fine for me, and have for years with no issues, even in somewhat...
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    I agree that this is the logic they are using. However, prioritizing short-term gains at the expense of long-term value/growth is a quintessentially American corporate problem. Consider Toyota vs. GM and how they handled the Great Recession. GM prioritized short-term shareholder gains at the...
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    I I'm not certain, but if they are, we also have to consider the *supposedly* lower power output of the non-U.S. version. This might explain the difference and lends credence to the claim that the U.S. version *needs* the 275's to hook up properly.
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    Ahhhh, the benefits of being in the Bay area. LOL. We are envious of the VIN, but not your cost of living. :) I'll wait.
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    Model 3 Performance/Ludicrous Waiting Room

    Same here. Mine went down $900. I was betting on a $1,000 drop in 30 days, as I've argued, due to an oversupply of old M3P's flooding the market, so my prediction was close. There's two ways of looking at it. The pessimistic view (which I am trying to avoid taking) is that Tesla essentially...
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    Model 3 Performance/Ludicrous Waiting Room

    That's a fair point. However, if Tesla would simply list the EDD as the *worst case* scenario and not move the date forward and backward randomly without any logical reason, then we could make more informed decisions. I can't imagine someone not on this forum being absolutely confused as to when...
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    Model 3 Performance/Ludicrous Waiting Room

    Great point! Can the AZ person who took delivery confirm that the tires don't slip at all when properly worn in (which should be true within a few days) and over 100 degree temps outside? I'm really hoping that the statement about slipping was due to low temperature/new tires/some weird...
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    Model 3 Performance/Ludicrous Waiting Room

    I was a 4/27 order date (in Arizona- SG/White). NO VIN. It was originally 5/11 to 5/25 (ha! yea right), then moved to July-August, but on Sunday moved back to June 23rd to June 30th. I am hoping it stays in that range or earlier, considering that I ordered it with an "est. delivery of June." I...
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    Obviously the square setup is ideal for rotations/cost/simplicity, but I would personally advise against deviating from the staggered setup that comes stock on this new car. I can't find the post, but I recall seeing one of the early deliveries mentioning that the car "started to lose traction."...
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    Mine was in the exact same location and was only $375...and I got a percentage of this back on the federal tax credit for rural area "fueling station" installation (some areas just outside of PHX are defined as rural). :)
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    Model 3 Performance/Ludicrous Waiting Room

    Good! Now I won't have to rip it off. I prefer the clear window look---even in AZ where it gets to 120+ degrees. Here's an interesting anecdote: my old car had super blacked-out tint with black "pleather" seats. My current M3P has clear windows and white seats. The M3P is *much* cooler. For...
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    Model 3 Performance/Ludicrous Waiting Room

    I think we can assume they are lighter than the uberturbines, given that there is much less wheel material. I'm not too concerned either way. I'm the guy that carries a full size 5th uberturbine and tire mounted in my trunk for road trips. There's nothing worse than being stranded and having to...
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    Absolutely! I made this exact same point about a week ago. If they offer plastic pieces that run along the entire outer edge, like the 19-inch forged wheels on the non-U.S. version, then that would be ideal. As to why they manufactured the wheels with 10 holes exposed on the lip, I think it's...
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    Model 3 Performance/Ludicrous Waiting Room

    I saw the Red/white model in Glendale, AZ about a week ago and I had the employees pull the caps off (after a long argument---haha), so that I could see what they look like in-person. The holes are really gross, so I will definitely keep them on unless there is an aftermarket set of covers that...