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Actually I respect your view, compare to some people on this forum who believe Tesla can do no wrong, your view will make a company better. what I don't agree with you Is I believe tesla should be criticized for this, its not a small mistake, Tesla abused their customer's trust, loyal...

This is the sentence I'm referring to. I'm glad you and I are on the same page that it's not ok for Tesla to overstate their numbers.

Its hard for me to believe someone would think it's ok for a company to overstate their car's HP and charge a premium base on that, but here we are today

Well said! It's surprising to me how people still defend Tesla and blame consumers for Tesla's misleading information.

I agree, I tried it couple times on exits that I knew it had trouble and its behaving the same every time

Lol, infamous Tesla time, maybe I shouldn't be laughing, it's actually sad when a company is known by that among its first customers

Just started install at 5:50 EST, vin 83xxx, on wifi

Lol please keep us updated on that! Only In Tesla time several months > a year

Lol good one and completely agree

- - - Updated - - - - - - Updated - - - Yes! Exactly! Instead of using common sense, they play word games and making excuses for Tesla that are laughable. I gave up explaining to them, sometime people are blind to truth

Count me out

wow, I don't think anybody can explain better than that, well done. It's sad people still going to find excuses for Tesla

What Andy said, lol. In your own word "not really noticeable", in Tesla's word "above what anyone outside of tesla has experienced before", don't need an English Professior here, but that don't match. Another overpromise/under deliver? Or maybe did not deliver?

Actually there is a huge difference. Tesla does the same thing as other EV company on their pricing, they even subtract gas saving from their price, I'm ok with that, you know why? Because they actually EXPLAIN it. Would you be ok with it if they did not explain their pricing and charge you full...

thats very interesting, I always thought it will come to a stop to avoid collision as well. So what model s website states might be another Tesla promise now, happen later function?

Dont forget to bring an English professor, Tesla have their own defination of language when it comes to timeframe, lol

So bring a lawyer and engineer every time I want to purchase from Tesla, ok. What happen to doing honest business? I'm tired of hearing all these excuses, another company is doing that so its ok tesla does it too...really?

I have to disagree with you regarding p85d performance number, it doesn't make 691 hp as advertised,Tesla didn't make the mistake of combining two motors and advertised that number on p90d, but that's a different topic and I'm not going to discuss it here again "The P85D top speed is currently...

Actually it is, it's high speed acceleration improvement we are missing here and I'm referring to the high speed OTA update p85d suppose to get

Come on guys! I'm sure there will be a software update in "several months" to improve the 1/4 mile time, if not, another $8000 hardware update will do the trick!

Canceled my X reservation and ordered a xc90 t8, will be here end of the year

It amazes me how you post with a straight face, all I see in your posts are excuses and many times, nonsense. Tesla advertised 691 hp motor power without any explaination or disclaimer, most people, including medias believed it will output 691hp, Even IF(a big if) ECE R85 explain Teslas claim...

For most of us, it's not an issue of buying a p85d or a ICE, it's 85d vs p85d, upgrade now from p85+ or wait.

Andy, I think you, sorka, wk057 and many other had made your point very clearly and I support you 100%, so do many of members on this forum. There people who are not going to agree with us and its ok, everyone have their own opinion, this is a tesla fan's forum, so people are going to stand up...

Here is extract of edmund's porsche review " More impressively, a Carrera S coupe with PDK leapt to 60 mph in just 3.9 seconds (again with the aid of launch control). Should you still have Maverick's "need for speed," a 911 Turbo S we tested blasted to 60 mph in just 3.0 seconds flat. The...

So your logic is it's ok to do the wrong thing because someone else is doing it too? Really..? and BTW, p85d and p90d are the only two that used rollout, everything else did not, including p85+, which IS a performance model, if they going to use different standard on a same car, the least they...

Guess the wait continue, thanks for the link.

New software update Just got a message from my car with a new software update....could this be it!? Anybody else got this?

Signed. Please don't get discouraged by the media report, tesla had more than enough time to respond to owner's questions for the past 6 months, they chose to ignore our concern

Or maybe its a "please give us what we paid for" discussion

Signed. P85d Owner

+1 we p85d buyers are not the only one that got mislead, most of reviews on p85d refer to it as 691 HP, I'm very disappointed with tesla, I cancell my model x reservation because of this.

i took delivery of my p85d about a month ago, while I love the car, I do feel cheated that it can't reach its max HP and after reading your experiment, it's like adding salt on a wound