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    Model S Plaid vs Porsche Taycan Turbo S vs my Model 3 Performance (after having driven all three).

    Still, I know what it looks like! Doesn't help that the brand itself is a turnoff for me.
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    Model S Plaid vs Porsche Taycan Turbo S vs my Model 3 Performance (after having driven all three).

    The EQS is on my list too, but near the bottom. The interior looks really cool, but the exterior... I just can't! Thoughts on the Audi e-tron GT, or the Lucid, or even the EQS for that matter?
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    Model S Plaid vs Porsche Taycan Turbo S vs my Model 3 Performance (after having driven all three).

    Harsh, but I agree that Teslas are a mixed bag in terms of tech. The infotainment system sucks big time, and as I said, I'm using only bluetooth these days. But curious if the Porsche phone app offers similar options, including driving off without a key.
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    Model S Plaid vs Porsche Taycan Turbo S vs my Model 3 Performance (after having driven all three).

    Got it, but agree with others that having the car slow down without changing pedals is a great feature. In fact it took me a couple of experiences before it clicked that it wasn't doing that because the battery fully charged, and I now avoid fully charging the battery when possible, because of that.
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    Model S Plaid vs Porsche Taycan Turbo S vs my Model 3 Performance (after having driven all three).

    I will definitely test drive it (and maybe other options) before making a final decision, but there are always tradeoffs. I loved how far ahead Tesla was in its infotainment in the old days, and now I'm jealous of the cheapest cars running Android Auto (or Apple Car Play). I'm using bluetooth...
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    Model S Plaid vs Porsche Taycan Turbo S vs my Model 3 Performance (after having driven all three).

    Gotcha, thanks! Yeah, it would suck not to have regen when you take your foot off the accelerator. My recollection from when I've kept an eye on the energy dashboards has been that it does charge when you put your foot on the brake, as well. I'll verify next time, but it should be easy to check...
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    Model S Plaid vs Porsche Taycan Turbo S vs my Model 3 Performance (after having driven all three).

    Exactly what drew me to this thread! After 7 years with a BMW 650i, I got my (previous) MS and loved it because it wasn't a marginal improvement over my last car. I'm on my 2nd lease now, another MS (LR) that ends in April. I'm keeping a short list of options, and Taycan is on the top right now...
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    MASTER THREAD: FSD Subscription Available 16 Jul 2021

    I'm in the same boat, with the car in a garage and no WiFi. I used to rely on the notification to move my car to the street where it connected to my WiFi. For the last couple of months, I've noticed that it either has not notified me of an update, or would have waited much longer. Every time...
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    MASTER THREAD: FSD Subscription Available 16 Jul 2021

    I've been using regular FSD for year and I agree with you that navigate on autopilot is useless. Then again, that might be because we're both on LA. Using Beta (only once so far) this week made me think about how subjective proper driving is, and how difficult it might be to have autonomous...
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    MASTER THREAD: FSD Subscription Available 16 Jul 2021

    Beta is now on 2021.44.25.6, so no longer behind the GA code base as of a week ago. Getting FSD does not enroll you in Beta. You need to manually request Beta and qualify, before you get the Beta software update.
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    Is anyone else’s FSD Beta vehicle trying to install 2021.40.6?

    Haha, I only tried it once and it was terrifying. It takes twice as much energy as driving the car myself, so far!
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    Is anyone else’s FSD Beta vehicle trying to install 2021.40.6?

    Strange! After waiting for Beta for weeks (on 2021.32.22), I got 2021.44.5, then 2021.44.6. Then finally while I was out of town, I received an update to 2021.44.25.6 and got the FSD Beta. The strange thing about this update was that it downloaded it on my (non premium) data connection...
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    Is anyone else’s FSD Beta vehicle trying to install 2021.40.6?

    Yup, that's been the case for me for 4 weeks now. The problem is that regardless of their intentions, if the versions properly reflect the branching of code, the latest (not really released) FSD Beta is behind this new 2021.44.6 update, and it may not be technically possible to transition people...
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    Is anyone else’s FSD Beta vehicle trying to install 2021.40.6?

    I worry that it may not work like that. Software versioning often follows a pattern where 2021.44.6 implies a newer based on top of which 2021.44.5.5 (FSD v10.7) cannot be applied. That's why I thought maybe staying on 2021.44.5 would be better, though I'm not sure if it matters given that my...
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    Is anyone else’s FSD Beta vehicle trying to install 2021.40.6?

    Unfortunately typo above, or prescient? I had been stuck on 2021.40.5 (not .6) for 17 days (at 100 score and many miles), waiting and thinking that 10.8 might be my ticket to FSD. I finally got an update notification today and I check, and it's the actual 2021.40.6!! As I understand, that likely...
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    Apple Working Toward Fully Autonomous Car With No Steering Wheel or Pedals, Aiming to Launch in 2025

    When someone says Uber driver, they are talking about labor. It's someone getting paid for the work they do. Conversely, the owner of a driverless car is primarily an investor, getting paid for their capital.
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    Apple Working Toward Fully Autonomous Car With No Steering Wheel or Pedals, Aiming to Launch in 2025

    oh the idea of self-driving cars is not Sci-Fi at all. There is just no reason to think that the leader would be whoever makes the shiniest unrelated technology, even if consumers love love love it with all their heart!
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    Apple Working Toward Fully Autonomous Car With No Steering Wheel or Pedals, Aiming to Launch in 2025

    lol, this is funny. As someone who is on his second Tesla, I definitely think there is a cult of personality going on at Tesla and too many delusional people overestimating what Tesla is doing in terms of autonomous tech. Unless you compare Tesla with Apple, at which point I would say Tesla has...
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    Who with a score of 100 and more than 100 miles is still waiting for FSD roll out?

    I've been at 100+ miles with a score of 100 for 2 weeks now, and up FSD. I was upgraded to 2021.40.6 a couple of days ago, which as I understand, may rule out 10.5.x or 10.6.x now
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    Is anyone else’s FSD Beta vehicle trying to install 2021.40.6?

    I was just thinking... could my car have a missing requirement, despite the fact that it allows me to enroll in the beta queue? I've read about people not having the right set of cameras, needing to replace them, etc?
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    Is anyone else’s FSD Beta vehicle trying to install 2021.40.6?

    Not sure whom you're asking. In my case, yes of course, I do.
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    Is anyone else’s FSD Beta vehicle trying to install 2021.40.6?

    I'll update the thread on what happens next. The rest trick will probably allow me to live with this perfect score for a while, otherwise it's impossible in this city. You have to either "unsafe follow" or "aggressively brake" when someone cuts you off
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    Is anyone else’s FSD Beta vehicle trying to install 2021.40.6?

    Thanks, the chart is very helpful! I try to keep track of my software updates, but don't always do a good job. I got 2021.32.22 on Sept 22 and that's when I first requested FSD Beta. I found it almost impossible to get that kind of score living in the middle of a city (LA), so I opted out and...
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    Is anyone else’s FSD Beta vehicle trying to install 2021.40.6?

    Different situation, but: I've had 100+ miles with a score of 100 since November 28, and still no FSD update. It occurred to me 2 days ago that maybe I need to connect to WiFi to even get the update notification (I usually get it on LTE but have to connect to WiFi to download it). So I did that...
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    Model S Software/Firmware wishlist

    Yes, I do know that, but we're just talking about added convenience, right? I use the controls on the screen so that the trunk is open by the time I'm there and I can grab what I need and press the button to close it. Loosely related, one thing that gave me pause in selecting this car was lack...
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    I work from home with zero commute, am I allowed to buy a Model S?

    I work from home and averaged 500-600 miles per month on my last car. I've been driving a bit more during the last few weeks since it's a new car, but I expect to get back into the same routine after a while. There are certainly benefits to driving an EV that you and I would not get, so our...
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    Model S Software/Firmware wishlist

    Apologies in advance, if this was mentioned somewhere in the last 1053 messages and I missed it.... I would like a configurable option, where at the end of every driving session (change to P, or door opened), a popup would appear offering me quick access to open the trunk. The popup could go...
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    What smartphone are you all using?

    You are getting the causation in reverse. Large number of people did not abandon SMS for iMessage or Facebook because of what the standards lacked. Rather, it was the vendors who used their near-monopoly in other technology (i.e., mobile OS and social media) to push their messaging solution...
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    What smartphone are you all using?

    I have a Moto 360... I've been thinking about writing an Android app for the car just to support the watch. It wouldn't be my first time writing an Android app, mostly just to satisfy my own requirements, but the truth is that I'm not sure I would really use the watch app. I have a lot of ideas...