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Wow, very disappointing. Sort of kills the mystique that a factory owned store and purchase process is so much than a regular dealership.

MobilEye has a new pothole detection system but that won't happen since they dumped Tesla. 8.0 won't detect potholes.

A new tweet from Musk linking a Forbes article that states Tesla sells 100% of its car with no discount. Good to know. Why Investors Should Support The Tesla SolarCity Merger

Consumers are buying a product at a fixed price with the expectation that Tesla will keep their end of the agreement. Instead, Tesla has violated their "we never discount" commitment. Tesla should acknowledge this and provide consumers the same discount they or return the consumers deposit.

So what was the cause of this particular suspension failure? Was there any follow up by Telsa as to the cause of the defect?

It seems that there still arent adequate quality assurance checks being made at the factory or at the SC. Something like that should have been caught as soon as it rolled off the assembly line.

That's a pet peeve of mine. It just screams low quality and no quality checks. Plus you see it all the time. The Model X seems to be a poster child for misaligned doors. Were they able to fix yours?

Yea, more like a depression in the road.

Sorry to hear about the suspension failure on your Model X and sorry you have to endure the personal,attacks from some here. Thanks for posting. There does seem to be an inordinate number of suspension failures. Did you report the failure to NHTSA ?

I would definitely push your delivery past Oct 1 if they refuse to budge on at least the delivery fees.

Mercedes has already moved well beyond these 2014 driver assist features.

The extra sensors are hardly useless. The Blind Spot detection is light years beyond what Tesla offers. Tesla is basically blind to the rear. The ability to detect and brake for stopped vehicles is not useless, as we've seen. Crossing traffic detection is not useless, as we've seen. Auto...

Here's a link to a Model S rear suspension failure from hitting a pothole. It does seem that based on all of the problems with Tesla's suspensions at a minimum they aren't very robust. Pothole in Vidor Texas Took the P85 Down

Who said supercharging will be free?

It seems very odd hitting a pothole at only that speed would do and damage beyond the tire and wheel. Failure of the control arm and shock tower seems more than you'd expect. Hope your insurance company paid for it all.

All these suspension problems are concerning. Why are all these problems happening, design issue or poor quality control or what?

What's with all the Tesla ball joint failures / replacements? Did Car and Driver magazine fake it?

Quite the elaborate scheme, faking his delivery and all! These short sellers are getting more creative all the time. LOL

I wonder if GM is going to charge extra for metallic paint like Tesla does?

I thought Musk said Tesla doesn't offer discounts, even to his own relatives? People who paid full price must feel cheated or foolish, For thinking that Tesla had firm, non-negotiable pricing.

That's what Tesla has said. And that's why Mobileye finally dumped Tesla because they felt Tesla was "pushing the safety envelope" too far, trying to do image processing of things the base system with only a single camera was ever intended to do. With a string of AP accidents and at least...

More importantly, Tesla's implementation of AP does not back up the supposed emphasis to keep hands on the wheel. Even when 8.0 launches, a driver can keep their hands completely off the wheel for 3 minutes before a nag warning. That kind of implementation does not match the warning for the...

Mobileye did comment immediately after the disclosure of the Florida Autopilot fatality. It was then that Musk stated it was Tesla's proprietary software, not Mobileye that should have seen the truck.

I'd highly recommend you go back and read what Musk said about Mobileye after the Florida fatality.

According to Elon's tweet shortly after the Florida fatality was disclosed, it was a failure of Telsa's proprietary software, not Mobileye's technology that was to blame for not seeing the truck. Furthermore, in this article Elon defended Mobileye as having the worlds best technology. What...

Yes, the E-Class, even though its a less expensive car than a Model S has 5 radar sensor that look both forward and rearward, plus to the side at intersections. One of the forward radars is a long distance radar that helps with AEB braking at high speeds. The BLIS system uses radars instead of...

Yes, totally agree. Tesla also didn't disclose the Joshua Brown fatality either until NHTSA was about to announce they were opening their safety investigation.

Agreed, highly likely that it was on AP based on the available information. The similarities between this and the other AP crash in China and the AP crash in Europe are eerily similar.

The basis of the story is spot on. GM got to Musk's goal for an "affordable" EV first. To drive the point home, GM made it even more embarrassing for Tesla by providing 20 miles more range than the Model S60. Tesla should not have wasted so much time and resources on the Model X and their...

Agreed, it's very odd that a 1/4 Billion dollar payload was onboard during a static fire test. Zuckerberg must not be very happy with Space X. His satellite didn't need to be present for the test.

agree with your approach 100%, customers shouldn't have to make up for a companies shortcomings

The SC wants to repeat the same behavior and expect a different outcome....gives new meaning to Tesla's Insane mode. Understand your frustration. I think this is a downside to having the factory and the dealer be the same entity. I can't image Lexus HQ standing by while this was happening a...

well, I guess that's one way to fix the closing problem

Yeah, seems strange Tesla wouldn't at least warn people about the removal of a safety feature

I'm sure the passengers in the Yukon took one look at the damage on the X and said "wow, I want my family back in a Yukon" The bent fender, broken headlamp and cracked bumper cover on the Yukon is minor compared to the extent of serious damage to the X.

That's a great question. And if they aren't, when did they stop using them. A little bit of transparency from Tesla would be nice.

Exactly, that's the way other auto park systems work, first they detect there is adequate space before allowing the system to work.

The 3rd row in the X is very cramped and claustrophobic which could certainly contribute to car sickness for 3rd passengers.

I would continue to push Tesla to cover the repair.

I couldn't find one Nissan Leaf that burned during a test drive. Can you please post the link? If this is such a common issue, it should be easy to find. I couldn't find any Chevy Volt fires, other than the one used in crash testing. You would think an ICE + EV would be even more likely to...

What makes Tesla's more fire prone than other EVs on the market? Why don't other EVs have these fire problems?

Sounds like a good question to ask Tesla sales people who don't train shoppers before a test drive. Maybe the center screen should play a short safety video each time you start the car with a flight attendant explaining the escape route procedures.

Unless you train your passengers how to use it in case of an emergency, I doubt anyone would figure it out during the panic of a car fire. As for the third row passengers, they're pretty much stuck in that third row.

+1 on the 90's bad Tesla Tan

At least everyone was able to get out. I wonder what would happen if it was a fire in Model X and the power went out. Getting out of the third row seats would be extremely difficult as would opening the FWD.

Based on Tesla's history with the S and X, I wouldn't expect a rattle/creak free Model 3. Wind noise and road noise seem to be higher than average too.

I would agree the ride quality in the X is poor. Do you have excessive wind noise or road noise...or both?

Anyone in the third row would be doomed. Its hard enough to get out of the third row when the seats are working. The second row passengers would have to try to escape through the front doors, if the front doors were manually opened.

A scary thought that a car would "ping pong like crazy" in a lane and "drift in an unusual pattern" if it loses a cell signal or is in an area without cell service.

In the NCAP side pole test on the Model S, "dummy measurements of rib compressions indicated marginal protection of the chest." "marginal protection" doesn't sound like a glowing term when it comes to crash tests results.