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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    Plaid track pack is not Road legal in Germany.
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    I will buy you a M3P highland if Tesla ever makes a motor that can: At the same RPM.
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    OMG, The dunning kruger here is so strong. A blog from 2006 talking about how Tesla uses AC motors instead of DC ones like the GM EV1 from 1996? The AC motors that every single EV has basically used since then once computers and power electronics became affordable and isn't special to Tesla in...
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    @eivissa - Appreciate you coming in with more detail and nuance. The issue here is that you're the one that actually posted this on Twitter: " 430Nm of torque! (up from 3D3=240Nm)" When it appears that you are well aware this motor doesn't actually outperform the 3D3 in torque because of how...
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    No they don't. You are mis-interpreting PWM'ing the DC link to create the AC phase currents needed to commutate and control a motor. But the primary control is duty cycle, not frequency, and the point of this is to control the CURRENT in an inductor (the motor windings) not the "Frequency."...
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    Rear Camber arms option - Hardrace

    You can, but I much prefer to have 3 wheels on the ground as I'm jacking up the suspension on the 4th, rather than only 2 and the other side on a stand or jack. Also, when you do this the other axle will be lower than the one you are measuring, and the sway bar will be transferring some force...
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    This is gobledy-gook. Motors are rated on the RPM and torque on the output shaft, and physics is physics. The motor has a clearly stated 159kW peak power. 400 nm at 3700 RPM is 159 kW. You flat out can't have more than 400nm above 3700 RPM and keep yourself to 159kW, unless we're talking...
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    Rear Camber arms option - Hardrace

    FYI, Shims only work on the newer 2021+ S/X cars. We're discussing the 2020- cars here.
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    We have a whole image for the power curve of the motor compared to other motors, but we can't have a link to this "type certificate"? I looked around and type certificates don't exist for European vehicles (that's an airplane thing) but Type Approvals do, and conveniently these applications or...
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    Do we know who this Julien person is and how they supposedly have data down to the MMOI of the rotor and full power graphs? Weird that the power graph stops at 125 MPH, the new speed limit for non-performance Teslas.
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    No, this is a physics issue. Power = Torque * RPM You can't keep your power the same yet double your torque. It's impossible. As I pointed out above, the change here is that the old motor was rated in torque at the peak power, while new motor is rated at peak torque. Old motor's peak torque...
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    So you're saying that the motor could do 430nm, it just never will. because the software won't let it? Here's the problem- the current motor already does 542nm of torque, despite what it's rated at, because the current rating is at peak power, not peak torque. Here's a graph of front torque...
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    Motors are not rated by battery limits. Motor ratings are what the motor itself can do given full electrical power. Also, the battery only cares about power, not motor amps. So as long as the power is lower, the battery can do it. Hence my question of how power can be unchanged with more torque.
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    How does a motor nearly double in torque but have no change in peak power, and at the same speeds as before?
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    Rear Camber arms option - Hardrace

    Do one side at a time. No reason to get the whole rear axle up at once. In fact, this makes setting the camber a lot harder and less accurate. Jack one side Remove wheel Install Camber arm Lower control arm onto block or jack to set height same as with wheel on Adjust camber Re-jack up Install...
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    Rear Camber arms option - Hardrace

    I think you'll have a very hard time getting one corner to "low" ride height if the rest of the air suspension is on high. You'd just need to compress that corner way too much, and it would likely lift the other corners off the ground. And you don't want to lower the air suspension while it's on...
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-gmc-hummer-ev-pickup-first-edition-first-test-review
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    Now I wonder if a Hummer EV (9K lbs, 3.0 0-60) or even a CyberTruck can tow a Model 3P 0-100 faster than the M3P can do it by itself.
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    I meant EV SUV's and Trucks have the option for a sub-3 0-60. Rivian, Tesla, Hummer, Hyundai... Which makes it embarrassing if a performance sedan's max config is slower.
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    Well, the car has a well published 8% reduction in drag, so yep, it's faster 0-100. Remember, Elon will use the smallest pedantic truth to keep the hype machine going. The fact that we may be looking at a 3.2 second 0-60 (with rollout) in a Tesla performance sedan in 2024 when all the SUV's and...
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    This is not the math anyone into performance cars runs because it's never logical and speed tends to be logarithmic in cost. A Plaid is not twice as fast as a Model 3 around any track or dragstrip, yet it costs twice as much. A Camaro ZL1 1LE will run 2% faster than the Plaid at the ring for 30%...
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    No, you don't understand, they ran a simulation that said it could do those things, so no need to actually do it. It's the same thing. I've heard a Plaid can do a 1:27.7 at Laguna and 7:07.6 at the Ring, they just haven't announced it yet as the simulation needs a few tweaks as it's currently...
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    @n2mb_racing - So what I get from that thread is that Tesla never actually ran a quarter mile, has no idea what the actual quarter mile is, but that didn't stop them from publishing a video that says it's a quarter mile, and publishing a quarter mile time, because they have "faith" in their...
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    A favorite tweet of mine (Oh, and please watch SuperFastMatt's youtube channel, it's excellent):
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    Nope, Engineering explained did all the math and it would lose no question at 1/4 mile. I mean you can see it at the 1/8 mile that there is no way the slowest 911 isn't gaining on the Cybertruck. This is where they were at the 1/8th after a much larger gap at the launch:
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    It's just so weird how every single time Musk "screws up" it's always beneficial to him. Quarter mile, two weeks, funding secured....
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    I guess I missed that when I searched. I found the 1:28.2 time which was with aero that could actually be driven on the street. But this shows just how stupid fast the Taycan is. A Plaid needed to take out all but one seat, replace the brakes, run complete slick race tires, and run enough...
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    The thing is, we don't really know how much time came from the Weissach package. For all we know, of the 18 seconds on the ring, 16 of those come from the other changes to the car which you can get without giving up the rear seat. 157 lbs of weight savings on a 5K lb car did not take 18 seconds...
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    Why does the weight or type of car matter? Porsche has the fastest EV on a track right now. It's up to other manufacturers to beat it, not to call Porsche desperate because they did it. I know I hate it when people say a Model 3 isn't a performance car because it weighs 4000 lbs and ther 911...
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    Does the GR Corolla reek of desperation? Porsche has almost always offered a Weissach package on their cars that gives up all sorts of comfort and convenience for speed. On the 911's it gets rid of rear seats, gets rid of the frunk, puts a big ol roll bar in the middle of the car, moves to...
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    Especially since it can't put down 1K HP until it's probably doing 60+ MPH due to traction, so it's more like 2 seconds of 1K, 2 seconds of 1.1K, then the rest back to "only" 1K. Also, it really matters how often you can access this 2 second power boost. And even more, are we sure it's 2...
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    The Porsche GT cars generally don't have back seats. The 911's are normally 4 seats but the track monster GT3 / GT2's all come with no seat (and a roll bar). So unless we're going to make fun of GT3's for being a cheat, I don't see the difference here. It's not much different than putting on...
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    Pulling to the left with perfect alignment specs

    Wait until you drive it for 100 miles to evaluate. Teslas "learn" slight mis-alignments, and it may still have the learning from before. It will likely go away. This is trivial to a good shop that really knows what they are doing to reset (it's in the service menu that anyone can access), but...
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    Good lug nuts?

    The Model X comes with open end short ones with individual covers for each Lug that you pop off first.
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    Highland top speed reduced…

    It's not the OEM in those cases unlocking it however. It's someone "hacking" the car, which is much more difficult with a Tesla due to the OTA process.
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    "Limp" is probably a strong term given it was doing 180 MPH at 6:55 in the 'Ring video.
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    "Proactive" 12v battery replacement - good idea or overkill?

    Yes, it does exactly this, which is why you have to wait the 30 seconds to allow the HVAC to turn off, but that's it.
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    Highland top speed reduced…

    You're the one saying this with no evidence: I really do not see any discussion that indicates there will not be 18's, that the 19's are the only efficient tire with a speed limit, or that wheel size has anything to do with acceleration boost being available,
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    "Proactive" 12v battery replacement - good idea or overkill?

    This is not the Official Tesla HV disconnect policy in the service manual. They only require 30 seconds and I fail to see why we wouldn't follow the service instructions...
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    Highland top speed reduced…

    At no point do they say the 18's won't exist anymore, or that only the 19's are efficent, or that only the 19's get the specical tire. All we have is Franz saying "these are the 19's."
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    Highland top speed reduced…

    Highly unlikely. I don't know of any car company that allows this. Best chance is if Tesla themselves sell you the tires (like is the only way to unlock 200 MPH on Plaid.) I really get a kick out of this though. Who is seriously going to buy an LR over a Performance, then go out and spend $1500...
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    "Proactive" 12v battery replacement - good idea or overkill?

    You don't need to replace the battery to clear the errors, just unpower the 12V system, which will clear them. Then try the battery selection before errors come back (which takes hours or days). Unplug penthouse HV, unplug 12V, wait a minute, plug in 12V, plug in penthouse.
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    Ahh, so it's Drive for 3.5 hours (at 65 MPH) so you arrive at about 15%, charge for 20 minutes, then drive for 3 hours, then charge for 20 minutes, etc. That's pretty different than what you said, which given you were replaying to someone talking about refilling an ICE, would assume you mean you...
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    We're talking about a mass market commuter car that can do 125 MPH, 0-60 in 4.2 seconds, and the quarter in 12 seconds. Numbers that were supercars 10 years ago. What logical company would give up efficency to be able to go 140 MPH instead? What other performance metrics do you want on a...
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    Good lug nuts?

    Currrent service manual (free, online, always updated): https://service.tesla.com/docs/ModelS/ServiceManual/en-us/GUID-A0E334DD-D40E-47AB-85A1-B8A65AA652B0.html I've never seen a Tall lug nut on Tesla, so in general you can use a impact on Teslas (not that they didn't use them at some...
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    4.5 hours at 65 MPH is 293 miles. Which at 65 MPH is basically 100% of the battery of a Model 3. No Tesla in the world can charge 100% SoC in 15-20 minutes. Even Tesla only advertises 175 miles in 15 minutes, and that's if you hit exactly the right SoC's to replace 50% in that time. A full 100%...
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    Man, everyone focusing on the price vs performance when my main point was that even trucks and SUV's are doing 2 second 0-60, so if Tesla doesn't make the M3P go deep into the 2's, it's a very interesting decision in 2024.
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    Highland top speed reduced…

    Where was wheel size discussed? An efficent tire is an efficent tire. And who says Accel Boost was taken away for efficency or because of wheel size? That doesn't change efficency. Tesla sells the M3P if you care about performance instead of efficency.
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    Highland top speed reduced…

    Sounds like they want people that care about performance to buy a performance car. Pretty common in other manufacturers too. This lets Tesla sell a max efficency car for the 95% of people that want that, and a performance one for the remaning 5%. Who buys an LR and cares about going over 125 MPH?
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    Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

    Callback to the 125 MPH speed limits on newer cars: It wasn't the suspension. It wasn't the aero. It wasn't lower insurance rates. It wasn't a saftey reason proving to NHTSA how much Tesla cared about it's customers. It was efficency. Efficency delivered by removing a ply from the tires...