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Lots of platitudes here. No one is expecting a profit. Not expecting record setting depreciation seems fairly reasonable. Btw I have a few cars in the garage which out performed the stock market.

Not true. Sold my 21 RS7 with 20k on the clock for a 7k loss. Friend lost $24k selling a 21 E63S back to the dealer with 11k on the clock 2 weeks ago. We get shafted to the tune of $60-70k. The difference is that “hold backs and rebates” aren’t available to everyone. Also those don’t equate to...

There are a LOT of fanboy responses in here that give Tesla/Elon the ability to engage in unprecedented price drops with impunity. No matter what he does, this blindly devoted telsa group will continue to Tout how great the car is. How wonderful the car is is completely different than...

Mine was 94. I got FSD yesterday

Got it at 4am. Can’t wait to try it. I got my Tesla in June. Signed up for the Beta in august. Was one of the people who upgraded the base software past the last “mass release”. Got 2022.36.6 a few weeks ago then 2022.36.20 today with FSD 10.69.3.1 today.

I upgraded to 2022.36.6 this morning. Drove 43 miles to the office mostly on autopilot. Never disengaged. I was not overtly attentive. Put my wallet away. Moved the my handgun from one compartment to the other. Never booted.

Well the last FSD of 10.69.2.X required 2022.20.X and older base software. That clearly establishes real precedence of backward compatibility and no forward compatibility. That requirement still stands today.

Clearly FSDb candidacy has zero association with luck. It’s hubris to believe that “chances are” higher if you do or do not upgrade. Fact of the matter is that no one here truly knows the policy behind their FSD upgrade algorithm. What IS clear is that FSD compatibility is tied with base...

Well I just updated mine to 2022.36.6 based on the info here. Hopefully that was the right move

I’m on 2022.28.2 and have not received an update for weeks. Today I got offered 2022.36.6. Haven’t pushed “install” yet but am hoping that it’s the right thing to do.

For everyone here, my bet is that they will offer a software upgrade that’s needed to get FSD. Wonder if it’s going to be labeled as FSD or if we will have gm uograde again to 2922.x.X in hopes that the FSD is packaged with it. If that happens, it’s entirely possible we are upgraded again to...

What does everyone think timing will be? 1 month? Months? I’m tempted to stop my subscription

Sold

I didn’t need to remove my mirror to tap that wire. I did need to remove the plastic piece by the mirror to allow the trim panel that houses the camera to drop and expose the wire/plug.

My MSP that was delivered late June came with 2 key fobs, 2 cards and the portable charger.

Selling my 21” Arachnid OEM wheels that were removed from my 2022 Model S Plaid with slightly more than delivery miles. Zero scratches or blemishes. $2700 shipped CONUS. OBO. Text at 832-722-1716

I guess some of us are way past worrying about the possibility of blowing a fuse. I’ve never had a car that is 100% stock. Not one and I’ve owned close to 80. A few of my cars don’t have the OEM internals in the engine and one car is about to change engines, transmissions, transfer case, and...

Yes. It won’t turn off while the vehicle is charging. It will, however, turn off after it goes to sleep. That’s when it’s not charging and just parked. Usually takes 30min-1 hr if it’s just sitting there. If you use your phone as a key, that will wake the car when it’s near and that starts the...

The black green wire from the mirror/interior cam panel on a 2022 MS Plaid

Not sure why people just don’t wiretap the mirror. It not switched to turn off immediacy but goes to sleep when the car is done charging or after an hour-ish of idle time. 5 min install and it’s clean

EVERY auto manufacturer peddling some level of driver assistance in vehicles has room for improvement. That said, from the latest from Mercedes Benz and Audi to GM, no one’s driver assistance is as good as Tesla’s. I can say this because I have owned all of them. Maybe those are just so...

Crazy. I ordered exactly the same car on 3/21. My delivery is 6/20

Count me in. My plaid is due 6/20

Seems to go fast after the vin is created. I ordered a month before you and got the VIN last week

Just got the text saying mine has shipped and is on its way to the delivery center.

Just got my VIN assigned with a 6/20-26 delivery date ordered 2 weeks prior to yours. Wonder how they prioritize. I have a black plaid with every option other than FSD

got my MS plaid VIN assigned yesterday. 6/20-26 delivery. Anyone know if there’s any flexibility in delivery? I’m traveling 6/23-6/26

Ordered originally on battery day. Wasn’t thrilled when saw an early car, cancelled the order and bought an Audi RS7. Traded the RS7 to an R8 and need a new daily. Ordered another plaid on 3/21. Date was originally 5/27-6/28. Then it was moved to 6/10-7/7. Moved last week to 6/8 to 6/29. I’m...

for Those that think the current headlights are sufficient - have you owned many other high end cars? I find in the Tesla community that there are SOME "car guys" but there are a quite a few that have bought a Tesla or even a plaid simply because its electric. If you're coming out of an Audi...

It may not be that easy to swap headlights. Other manufacturers such as Porsche or even Land Rover have backward comparability issues with older models. When JLR updated the Range Rover sport, the updated tail lights didn’t work with the electronics. Same with the Porsche 991.1 transition to...

How about edit your last post instead of drip feeding thought fragments

Thanks for the very objective and thoughtful review. Its refreshing to read a review from the perspective of the "car guy". Personally, I dont care if it is electric. The capabilities of the car and experience provided by the car are important to me. I had a 2015 P90D. It was quick, but lacked...

Was just on the Tesla page getting ready to place an order for the plaid and only ebony wood is being offered. Has anyone heard any news on when carbon might return?

Some more pics.

Some pics.

I have a set of slightly used ADV.1 Pulse MV1 wheels. These two piece wheels cost over $8500 new without tires. $10k with tires. Overall weight savings with three of 26.4 pounds of rotational mass over the OEM 21 wheels. Pulse MV1 wheel sizes are: Front: 21″ x 9.0″ ET30 Rear: 21″ x 10.5″...

Key is "once it gets here". With the other auto manufacturers lagging in FSD capabilities, I am doubtful congress is going to be in any hurry to nudge Tesla forward with regulatory approval. Government move slow, not expeditiously. We aren't waiting for the speed of the free market to have FSD...

Fact of the matter is that buyers in the $80K+ luxury car market are a fickle bunch. Take a look at used S-Class, 7-series, Audi A8, Jaguar XJ values- They all plummet. MS values drop as well, but not as badly as the other luxury saloons. Once there are other players in this space, my guess is...

I think this is debatable. My bet is that many of us who have bought P85DL, P90DL, P100DL cars bought them because of their capabilities - that most of us willing to spend >$100K on a commuter were/are petrolheads that are also early adopters of technology. Basically Im saying that its debatable...

I cant speak on behalf of all supercar buyers, but I can say that my circle of friends do care- a lot. It doesnt mean it wont sell, but I do think it does mean that it may not have the long term provenance once there is a larger presence of track-capable offerings in the marketplace. For now, I...

I jumped in on a CPO P85D two months ago. The purchase process (in Texas) was the worst of ANY car I have ever purchased. That being said, the experience from delivery onward has been incredible. Tesla needs to get their act together on used/pre-owned/CPO cars. They gave me 6 pictures to make a...

I couldnt disagree more. One of the primary reasons Tesla has enjoyed the success it has is that it proves that the electric car platform can have performance as good or better than the ICE platform. Insofar that is why many car enthusiasts migrated to the tesla platform. Personally the "carbon...

Yes. Just don't live in California. In texas we just pay tolls and the HOV lane turns into a toll road.

Agree on your perspective in the UK. Try the heat reflecting glass in Texas. Pretty hard to do when the MS is missing cameras in the mirrors or other suitable locations. Not sure if this is the case with newer cars with FSD. Have the premium interior too. Unless something changed on the 2016...

I agree that the "standard" luxury car or sports car owner doesnt track their car. Id argue that a notable amount of supercar owners do track their car. While many Porsche GT owners dont track their cars, its fairly safe to say that many do. when compared with a M3, or AMG mercedes, Id say that...

Ive had my Model S for 2 months now and have had my share of other luxury and supercars. IMHO, Tesla has a fantastic electronics stack, and has some gimmicks that others dont have. Tesla is also missing some basics and some forward thinking that the competition has in it's wheelhouse. Tesla has...

The new roadster will be an incredible car from a top speed and acceleration perspective, but that's about it. Unless Tesla makes significant improvements/changes on its approach to battery cooling, aero, braking etc, looking at the roadster from a "handling" perspective is somewhat lopsided...

The new roadster will be an incredible car from a top speed and acceleration perspective, but thats about it. Unless Tesla makes significant improvements/changes on its approach to battery cooling, aero, braking etc, looking at the roadster from a "handling" perspective is somewhat lopsided...