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    Referral Reward: Forged Performance Wheels

    Just emailed them and got a reply that production has started...but still no pics (coming soon they said), and now we’re looking at winter delivery.
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    Cold. Cold. Cold. Strange / Interesting screen reading.

    Thanks for the input. I'm still not sure that the battery is expending energy to heat itself when it's cold out (though not less than -30). Consider the very fact that those dotted lines do appear, indicating that the battery is cold - and the extent of the dotted lines varies with the...
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    Cold. Cold. Cold. Strange / Interesting screen reading.

    Hello all you technically-minded folks! I've been following this thread and only half understanding it (damn that liberal arts degree!) so I apologize if the answer to the question I'm about to ask has already been stated. Anyhow, I've been experiencing a lot of phantom drain and the Tesla...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Ditto
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    INPORTANT: BE SURE TO USE YOUR ORIGINAL ORDER DATE (before cancellation) ON YOUR APPLICATION! I emailed a few questions to the MTO and this was one of the questions and answers: 4. I was part of the cohort who ordered their Tesla vehicle prior to July 11th, but then cancelled subsequent to...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    That would be SO amazing! Of course, I doubt Ford would do something so obviously in the interest of the province (and so very in-line with his pro-business stance), if it meant playing nice with the likes of Tesla or Musk. I imagine he’s too petty for that.
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    I agree that it would be a perverse disincentive to tax BEV/PHEV cars separately - but let's remember that Ford is a perverse individual. As such, I wouldn’t put it past him. Of course, not only would you be disincentivizing the direction in which society would need to move, but you’d also be...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    To be fair, when I say you won’t end up saving money buying a Tesla, I was comparing it against buying a second-hand, non-luxury vehicle. Even then, if you drive an INSANE amount then you might still end up saving money. However, my whole point in saying this is that I think none of us have...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    ...and how do you like your new car?
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    We talk about things like ROI and ROE (Return on Equity) quite a bit. But at some point you have to unabashedly introduce a new metric - ROE: Return On Enjoyment. Very likely this car will never break even money-wise with a new Honda Accord or Civic...and definitely not with a used one. But...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    I should hope not. All I’m saying is ‘better safe than sorry’. After all, how much would it suck if you lost the rebate over something so petty?
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Hey everyone! This journey in getting a Tesla (and the rebate) has been quite the emotional rollercoaster and many of us have spent many hours on this forum discussing and organizing. I think it might be a fun idea to organize a Model 3 get together in the new year for those of us who canceled...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    No. Transferring orders and reservations was always very tricky. In this case I think it’s impossible; the name on the car registration and order agreement, as well as the email, have to match what the government had on it’s list. They will be strict about this. In fact, I would encourage...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    ...the key is that you have to be on the 'The List'...the parameters of the list and how you get on it are somewhat of a mystery. It seems as though there are people who cancelled and who ought to qualify, who are nevertheless not on the list.
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Tenuous - very tenuous. The only way they MIGHT have a case is if they originally ordered the LR RWD but subsequently changed their order after the rebate was yanked. Remember, those two cars were never approved for the rebate.
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    This is incorrect. I actually contacted the MFO and this is what they said: If you ordered your vehicle on or before July 11, 2018, then it will qualify for an incentive provided it is delivered, registered and plated in your name by December 14, 2018 and it was on the list provided to the...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Thanks everyone for the advice - now I have to do my due diligence.
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Makes a lot of sense...but I had a diesel VW that had to go back to the manufacturer on account of the emissions scandal settlement, so I don't have an ICE anymore. Actually, I'm looking forward to never being gas again - it was always such a pain. Also, given that my work has free EV...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    On a slightly unrelated (but still kind of related) topic, I've been trying to decide what to do about the rims/winter tires situation. I'll be getting the 18'' aero rims with all season tires (of course) and am thinking to just buy some winter tires and put them on the aero rims. Then, come...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Hmmm, I was thinking of ‘Disagreeing’ with this comment, but I just didn’t have the heart to deprive Adaptabl of that joy. All kidding aside, this is WONDERFUL news! Do you know who specifically was the source or how did this come your way?
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Tesla does not administer the program, they cannot guarantee anyone’s qualification. Period. There are many reasons why one might be denied the rebate that do not relate to the deadline and which are beyond Tesla’s control. They’ve told you what they’re allowed to tell you; the deadline has been...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Well, at long last I get to post my good news... -Order Date: Nov 20th, ~4:30pm -Delivery Date: Monday Dec. 3rd -RN: xxxxxx7649 -VIN: xxxxxxxxxxxxx6635 -Config: Midnight silver, aero wheels, BLACK interior (oh well), EAP Seems like there are no white interiors. Had I known that I would have...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    ...I feel as though there’s a raunchy joke in there somewhere ;)
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Quick update: I see online that my ‘payment method’ section has been updated with loan amount, rate, and term. Also, the itemization is showing a BLACK INTERIOR (as opposed to the white I ordered). I don’t know if this is an error or not, but it might mean that white interiors are just not an...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Congrats! What config are you getting?
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Congrats dj! what was your RN?
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Thanks - hmmm, my RN is xxxxx7649...might have to wait a while
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Congrats! Do you mind if I ask when your ordered and what your RN was (or last few digits)?
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Congrats! Mind if we ask after the specs (last few digits of RN, etc.)?
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Here’s a thought - when we get our VIN’s assigned, how about we post the following: - last few digits of RN - order date - configuration (and if it was what you asked for) - delivery date (if available) This might make it easier for everyone to get a sense of where they are in the delivery...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Well, nothing to do but wait and see...and continually harass Tesla employees for information they don’t have :D
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Bravo - couldn’t have said it better myself. Now I’m just hoping I can actually get that white interior! But I doubt that’ll happen. Still, overjoyed that this opportunity came up. Kudos to Tesla!
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Ok. Got a new DA. This is what I was able to glean: - the sooner you get your order in the better; your RN puts you ‘in line’ - when your number comes up, they check and see if any cars either in inventory, or being sent up meet your build specifications. If not, they call you and ask you what...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Geez - that must suck. I feel for you. And no, I am not being sarcastic. It must bite to have sprung for the hybrid alternative, gotten a few thousand, and then learned that you missed out on a Tesla twice over. Any animosity I would feel for you is overshadowed by my sympathy. But what I...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Regarding price - I don’t think it went up. BUT the prices of certain options have changed, such as the paint prices, EAP (or at least if it’s added after-the-fact)
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Unfortunately my DA was off today and his inside guy wasn’t very useful (I think he replied to my email to say ‘how can I help?’ and then went home for the night). I did call the Lawrence shop and this time was told that there actually about 200 cars in inventory! At this point I have no idea...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Good question - really don’t know when you’d get one. Really, it seems as though the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing - and just forget about those feet! What I’m hoping to do is to get the DAs to speak with the sales managers and try and find out where the disconnect is...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Welcome to the discussion and thanks for your input. This lack of clear guidelines is VERY frustrating. I spoke with a salesperson yesterday who told me that the DAs know way more than the sales people, so that I should defer to the DAs. My DA told me that white would be ok. But I have NO idea...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Agreed. But there is a fly in the ointment; in the US they will be losing the full tax credit at the end of the year. Thus there are two races - one in Ontario and one in the US. Tesla definitely CAN produce all the cars for us, but they might have to de-prioritize some US customers to do so...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Here it is again; Tesla’s infamous communication capabilities. I do think they’re ordering in more. Consider that Musk recently stated that anyone who ordered their car prior to Nov 30th should be able to get it by Dec 31st and still get the full US federal tax credit. We now see the same...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Hey Adaptabl! Nice to see you around to disagree with everyone (or to rate posts funny) are you getting a Model 3 by any chance?
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Just spoke with a DA - they do have some cars in inventory up here that they’ll use for matching orders, but not nearly enough to satisfy the number of orders they’ve gotten. As such, some orders will be fulfilled very quickly out of inventory, but most will take some time as the cars will...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    I don’t think it’s from inventory - only Canadian inventory would be useable. US cars would have to be reconfigured for the Canadian market as US Teslas can’t be imported into Canada (I looked into it following the Ford debacle earlier in the year).
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Got the call and email as well! Fantastic news! Additionally, I was told that I would be able to order the white interior (which I did) indicating that these are not from inventory...of course sales guy might just not know any better. Tesla is a fantastic company for many reasons - but...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Thank you for the insight - there are many people here who post excellent comments and I truly appreciate all of them. If it does turn out that those who stayed in end up getting the rebate, then I may just take the government to small claims court. The rationale is that I was in-line for a...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Out of curiousity, on behalf of those of us who had to cancel and are now absolutely crushed since it looks like we could have otherwise gotten the rebate...do you think there’s any hope for us?
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    LMAO! You do realize he set you to ignore, right?
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Emailed her a while ago. No response.
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Are you dealing with Derek at the Ombudsman’s office? If so I’ll contact him directly to let him know that I was reassured over the phone by people at the MTO a day or two after the news release. I’d like that to be in my file.
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Agreed. Any word from the Tesla lawyers? Also - spoke with the Ombudsman’s office and apparently they’re expecting the MTO to get back to those people who had written-in to [email protected] pretty soon. Actually, he was kind of surprised that no one had yet gotten back to me. He also asked me...