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Picked mine up today and yes I got the little red model 3. The car is a dream and drives amazing. Mine only had 1 or 2 minor scratches. The delivery was a great experience (Oakville) and the delivery assistant took all the time we needed to go over everything. I am really impressed with...

Adaptl??? Hello?

Wow. Kudos to Tesla! They really went to bat for their customers. I’m not sure if any of the big five would have done that. Thank you everyone for your support.

Check with Tesla again. I just logged in and it’s working.

Here is an article that makes it easier to understand Tesla wins against Ontario gov as judge rules that phase-out of EV incentives is discriminatory

I wish I was located in Toronto as I would have gone. The suspense is killing me as how the decision will impact us on the rebate. Regardless, I am so happy Tesla won and we live in a country where justice is upheld. Take that Dougie!!! (Sorry, but I had to get that out there)

Can you give any details as how you heard?

Please go and read my full response as I did refer to Section of the Charter Section 24(1), since you cut and pasted my message. As I touched in my ORIGINAL message on procedural fairness, there are case laws where the government has been challenged on their policies. I did not realize I had...

@Canuck. First of all, to answer your question, I do know the Constitution and I think it's pretty insulting of you to comment that I show a lack of knowledge on what it contains. Secondly, for clarification purposes, any LAW OR GOVERNMENT POLICY that contravenes the terms of our Charter...

I call it dirty politics.... you scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours. I just know when it comes to the courts they have a very different way looking at things .... if it’s unconstitutional Tesla will win. The way they cancelled the program was procedurally unfair to the consumers as...

Discrimination is unfair and unjust (and I’m not talking of the human rights code) which is what Tesla is claiming. Courts CAN override any level of government when any law (which is superior to a policy) that is unjust or never used legal procedures. Is discrimination not a form of malice...

So... Ontario Government now wants the Courts to toss out Tesla’s lawsuit. Basically saying they can do whatever they want, how they want to do it and screw our constitution. If the courts do this and that is a BIG IF.... that is a big precedent to set. Now we just sit back and wait and...

I got a red LR RWD and ordered the 18” standard black Aero. I’m hoping it will happen before the 10th ... that’s what I’ve been told and that large shipments are expected end of August as Tesla works on quarterly timelines.

I got my vin last week and was told delivery was on Sept 9th/10th. They were still going to expedite it just in case. I’ve also heard from two different sources (dealers) that there are large shipments comings in end of August. So don’t give up yet!

Congrats on your purchases but nothing beats a Tesla. I understand those consumers who have had to cancel because I agree it’s quite a premium to pay. So far, Tesla has done everything they can to help their consumers and I believe they will make every effort to get deliveries before Sept...

I believe the point of fighting for the rebate is lost here. If it was retro active it would be because of the unfairness in the manner it was stopped. Consumers who bought an EV car that was a not a Tesla are still eligible for the rebate and Tesla consumers are the only ones that have...

Adaptabl... this forum is about the impact on consumers who have been UNFAIRLY impacted because of Doug Ford’s personal biases. You arguing here is obviously irrelevant to most of the consumers. So please, my suggestion is to go promote your buddy Ford elsewhere. Thank you!

Hi So I have also called a few lawyers to see if we can file for a judiciary review. As it would be filed as a class action, the process is a little different (vs. if one person was suing). I believe research has to be conducted before it can be confirmed if a class action is possible. I...

Adaptl what is it you can’t understand? The cancellation was done in an unfair manner ... period! No other argument necessary.

How many of you are planning to cancel? I received a call from the Ombudsman.... they are working on it. Also, if I can get an estimate on number of consumers in this predicament, I’m going to see if we can go the judiciary review (for a class action). I’ll have more info on that...

Congrats! There is no other car compared to Tesla. Keep your fingers crossed for the rebate. Enjoy!

You are right but that would give us leverage with the the Ombudsman. Look at the review, it asks for it to be revoked. If it’s revoked then would that not impact the EHVIP program? I agree it’s complicated which is why we need someone who understands the law to guide us in understanding...

Ditto!

Agreed! It’s definitely going to backfire on him and where they said their campaign promoted the cancellation of the cap program is part of the EBR process is complete and utter BS!

I agree but they are still held accountable and even though they are the government they can still be sued. That’s an expensive alternative but I am sure they are going to be seeing lawsuits because of the cap program cancellation and the impact to businesses. I would rather wait and see how...

I agree with you except the Ombudsman is there to address our concerns i.e EV Rebate. This review will help with that issue. The Ombudsman is their to see the unfairness of how it was cancelled but it’s still all part and parcel of the caps program.

It means that the public had a right to provide input to the cancellation of the cap and trade program. The provincial government should have given public a minimum of 30 days for input because it affects us all. They didnt follow the law. The PC’s did respond with lousy excuse that they...

Has anyone seen this? http://www.cela.ca/sites/cela.ca/files/EBR-Application-for-Review_cap-and-trade.pdf This was submitted on July 18th. Bottom line, they can be prosecuted. Just because it’s the provincial government does not mean they can bulldoze people. They are still accountable...

I agree. This discussion doesn’t belong on this forum. It’s about the cancellation of the rebate not the the performance or costs.

On that note.... Elon if you are reading this ... kick Doug on his butt! (Sorry for being crude but this has been a stressful week with just waiting to see happens).

I just checked out CELA’s website. Their staff are mostly lawyers and legal representatives. Now to just wait and see what happens.

Sorry for the typos!

Loll... I agree. Just wondering how long it will take to resolve this issue. I spoke to Tesla rep yesterday and they just hang tight but keep checking in with them.

For anyone who has not called the Ombudsman, please do. The higher the number of complaints, the more clout they will have to right a wrong.

I hope he’s taught a lesson by the feds and ends up looking like an idiot.

Has anyone received a response from their local PC MPP after sending them an email?

You should phone the ombudsman too after sending the emails.

So after writing to the MPP's, the Ministry of Transportation, Consumers Ontario, I finally called the Ombudsman. I had an interesting conversation. I was first told I had to wait for a response from the Ministry before the Ombudsman could get involved, but after hanging up I received a call...

Yes, I took your email and changed it so it reads from a consumer. Thank you.

I thought it was worth a shot writing to Consumer Ontario as they regulate the Consumers Protection Act. I've drafted a message below but it has to be sent through their website (https://www.ontario.ca/feedback/contact-us?id=26911&nid=101484). Feel free to copy and paste and forward it them...

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I don’t think there is any doubt they picked on Tesla. They just don’t want the other companiles to lose out because they know Tesla has the superior product ( and screw the consumers because they can afford it! Which is totally untrue!). I really want Elon to teach them a lesson that they...

That made me laugh. It would be too much to expect Doug Ford to speak the truth.

For those that have an order and waiting to see what happens I suggest you send this email that another consumer drafted earlier on this forum (page 106), and kindly provided all the MP email addresses. I have included the draft letter below and the email addresses for your convenience, so...

Be careful when editing, it may change things for you. If you are going to change then call their main customer service number and confirm that your status will remain the same. I haven’t tried getting into the design studio. The emails I was referring to were related directly to the rebate...

I just spoke to a Tesla rep in Oakville and he said Tesla is still fighting it. The email posted here sent by Tesla reps to the two individuals says that there is no longer a rebate available. He confirmed that even though that is true it is not an official announcement to its customers and...

Where did find this announcement? I looked on their website and haven’t been able to find it unless you received a direct email?

I believe if you had a car reserved then you had the option sent to you by email to place an order by June 30th and you would qualify. Just like a number of other purchasers, we did place the order before June 30th and I am still holding out hope that Tesla will fight and qualify it’s buyers...

So because there were a lot of Tesla buyers and the cost was too high? Correct me if I’m wrong but was it not the goal of the program to move as many people over to electronic car as possible? All I’m saying is that everyone should be treated fairly and Tesla buyers were not. If there were...

Tesla, take them to court! The Government has been challenged before and lost. It’s important that the PC’s realize they can’t get away treating some companies like this while favoring others (i.e. their friends). This is setting a precedent and if they can do this as soon as they are in...