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The only time they mentioned a specific availability date was in reference to the CP6000, which is a Level 2 EVSE: The main difference between this press release and the earlier one was that they specified "availability," whereas the earlier one did not. You people are seriously mis-reading my...

No, that's not my main observation. That was a comment that the unit specifically mentioned in the press release as being "available" was a Level 2 EVSE, not a DC fast charger, as shown in the photo, so the photo was mis-matched to the press release. My main observations from that paragraph...

It's possible that my conclusions are wrong, but I stand by my observations.

Was that on a road trip, or driving 650 miles going from one site to another for work? They're two very different things. In the road-trip scenario, you can plan your stops appropriately so that you can rest, go to the bathroom, and eat while the car does a DC fast charge. I've done this myself...

For a racing event, I think you really need to be talking directly to DC fast charging equipment manufacturers. I'd contact ABB, BTC, ChargePoint, FLO, Freewire, Kempower, SK Signet, Tritium, and of course Tesla itself, if you'll be charging Teslas. (I'm sure I've omitted some charging equipment...

There are companies that sell low-power DC fast chargers -- in the 10 to 60 kW range. For instance, Setec sells such devices. (They made the first CCS1-to-Tesla adapter, which was limited to 50kW but worked with all Teslas except the Roadster -- even those without CCS protocol support.) I'm sure...

Given what he said of his work, I'm sure he stops pretty frequently -- but that would be at people's homes, or wherever the classic car he was considering buying happened to be. Even in a future world where EVs are much more common, he probably couldn't get a lot of range by using a Level 2 EVSE...

FWIW, ChargePoint announced NACS support about two weeks ago: https://www.chargepoint.com/about/news/chargepoint-will-soon-offer-nacs-connector-options-its-charging-solutions The difference seems to be that the earlier announcement specified that they would "soon offer" NACS, whereas this one...

Despite the fact that NACS is an acronym for "North American Charging Standard," NACS is not a true standard by most definitions. Most standards are released by industry standards organizations, like SAE, IEEE, ISO, etc. They're created by multiple companies, universities, governments, and other...

I was talking to a guy at an auto show this weekend who said he routinely drove 300 miles a day, and sometimes up to 600. His business was buying classic cars for restoration and resale, so he has to drive around the area to inspect the cars before buying them. That's a lot of mileage. An EV...

I definitely agree about the back-room negotiations. In fact, that looked like a certainty to me when GM and Tesla announced a deal. Even with the Ford/Tesla deal to use as a model, I thought it was unlikely that a company like GM would rush into something, starting from scratch, in just two...

The NACS news is coming in a flood today! The SAE has announced that they plan to turn NACS into an official standard, on an "expedited timeframe." The press release is sparse on details, but this fits one more piece into the puzzle of what a future NACS-oriented charging environment in North...

The press reports I've seen indicate something like a 275-mile range, at least in the US. For instance, Car and Driver reports: That said, I believe that the car will have two battery options in Europe, with the 64 kWh battery noted by C&D being the larger option. I don't know offhand what the...

Oh, OK. I was under the impression that Polestar was wholly-owned by Volvo, which in turn was largely owned by Geely. I guess we'll need to wait for another announcement from Polestar, then....

These announcements are pretty similar to one another, so there aren't a lot of details to review: https://electrek.co/2023/06/27/volvo-joins-tesla-nacs-adopt-connector-on-future-evs/ The major question left unanswered in this and other media reports is whether this deal includes Polestar, or...

This is not anything certain, but Stellantis recently dropped a hint; as reported by the Detroit Free Press: Of course, the "pending NACS announcement," once made, could be anything from a deal similar to the ones Ford, GM, and Rivian have struck all the way to "Elon Musk is Satan and we will...

Tesla's routing already does that, but this is irrelevant. Although some details remain unclear, the announcements to date have been pretty clear that Tesla's network is being added to (not replacing) the existing network of CCS chargers used by the navigation in Ford, GM, and Rivian vehicles...

Oh, and speaking of harmonizing charge-port locations....

Another long-term solution is for Tesla to increase their cable lengths. This idea seems to be part of what's behind the V4 Supercharger. Here's a video of somebody in Europe charging a Kia EV6 on the (AFAIK, only) Supercharger with this physical design (taller pedestal, longer cable, new...

I created one that's designed to fit into a J1772 holster, thus enabling it to holster a J1772 plug plus NACS adapter: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3562353 I tested this with my Clipper Creek holster, and I can't guarantee it'll work with anything else. Note also that it's pretty delicate...

Here's a YouTube video showing a Kia EV6 charging at the (AFAIK only) V4 Supercharger: Between a longer cable and a changed placement of the pedestal relative to the parking space, it looks like V4 Superchargers will have no cable-length problems with at least most non-Tesla EVs. (I'm not sure...

It's also possible that this shift to NACS will light a fire under the rear ends of the current CCS networks. If they add NACS plugs and improve reliability, that will be a big plus for everybody and make it less likely that Tesla will become a DC fast charging monopoly. (Note that I'm not...

I agree with @Earl. I've owned my Tesla Model 3 LR RWD for four years, and I've done several road trips in that vehicle. It has not slowed me down. @Earl's tips are good starting points for doing an EV road trip in good time. I get the impression that the biggest mistake that EV newbies make on...

IMHO, this is the wrong way to think about charging an EV. You shouldn't be going someplace to charge and then look for something to do; you should go someplace to do something and be able to charge your car while you do your activity. Of course, in some cases the infrastructure doesn't yet...

I've heard the same story, but however it originated, CHAdeMO deployments in the US -- both in terms of charging stations and cars -- never really supported long-range travel. To the best of my knowledge, the longest-range EV to use CHAdeMO is the longer-range Nissan Leaf. That's currently...

This site is tracking announcements and summarizing details, including promises of when support will materialize.

The sensors in the car's inlet and in the charger's plug will still work at their respective points, but neither has direct access to the temperature of the adapter. Tesla's adapter, though, reportedly includes features that cause the connection to break if the temperature rises too high. I...

That's precisely correct. The history is this: The oldest vehicles (like my 2019 Model 3) have an older charging electronic control unit (ECU; whose part number I don't know offhand). These will need an upgrade to a new part that is, AFAIK, not yet available from Tesla. I'm not sure if any...

Probably not; however, that's based on some assumptions, and some things will change by the time those stations become available: The NACS specification document basically says that NACS plugs should implement the CCS communications protocols. Thus, any vendor who follows this advice will have...

Nice find! Today saw a flood of announcements from EV charging companies about NACS support. Here's one bit from ChargePoint, as quoted in an article by Electrek: So that's confirmation that one of the bigger players in the EVSE field will soon be offering a NACS connector for its home and...

Even if every automaker signs on to NACS tomorrow, effectively killing CCS1 in North America, and the regulations aren't updated, the CCS1 stations that are built will not be useless, for a number of reasons: The current regulations do not specify that charging stations must support only CCS1...

I noticed that @ucmndd's profile specifies California as their location. According to the US DOE, California currently gets a whopping 27% of its electricity from solar, and only 7.5% from wind. I don't know what plans are for the future; it's possible that there are plans for massive wind farms...

I suspect there's more to it than that. Tesla could easily have included their communications protocols as part of NACS (or in a separate document) and included language in the NACS specification that explicitly says NACS could use either Tesla's protocols or the J1772 and CCS protocols. This...

The situation is analogous, but the protocols are much simpler. J1772 has its own associated communications protocol, and Tesla has theirs. Both Tesla cars and Tesla's EVSEs (the Mobile Connector and the Wall Connector) understand both protocols, but most (all, AFAIK) other vehicles and EVSEs...

Personally, I interpret "permanently attached" to disallow adapters, including Magic Dock. Although I would not bring a lawsuit over this issue, anybody who wanted to slow or stop deployment of such a system, and who had sufficient funds, surely would. Even if the courts ruled in favor of...

NACS is primarily a hardware specification, although as @smogne41 says, it implies (or maybe states outright, but my recollection is that it's a bit vague) that the CCS protocols (over PLC) should be used for communication, whereas Tesla uses a proprietary protocol over CAN bus. (Note that there...

I don't recall if it was in the original Twitter Spaces announcement or in a later interview, but Jim Farley said that Superchargers would be added to Ford's "Blue Oval Network" and that Ford owners would not need a Tesla account to charge at Superchargers. He explicitly said that this had been...

Probably, but not with certainty. I know of no technical reason why Tesla could not open up their proprietary communications protocols for third-party DC fast charging manufacturers to use, or to license it to specific networks. I've heard no rumors that Tesla might be considering doing so...

My understanding is that the Ford and GM deals will enable Ford and GM drivers to charge at Superchargers without the Tesla app, with real-time Supercharger data being added to Ford and GM navigation systems. (At least, on cars that provide that data; IIRC, the early Bolts didn't include any...

It's unlikely that anybody on this forum can reply authoritatively. To the best of my knowledge, neither Tesla nor Elon Musk has said anything about this (although I might have missed such a statement), so anything you read here would either be an internal leak (which seem to be fairly rare) or...

Please post a photo of this. It could be either the cause of the problem or a symptom of the cause (overheating). Your description is pretty vague, and being able to see the damage may help those who are more expert on these things than I am to diagnose the problem.

Like the old man in the "bring out your dead" skit in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail," CHAdeMO is not dead -- yet. The Nissan Leaf still ships with a CHAdeMO inlet, and of course cars last for many years, so there will be a sizable number of CHAdeMO-based vehicles on the road for years to...

The current EVgo solution employs a CHAdeMO-to-Tesla adapter with an extra-long cable between the adapter's handle (which is buried in a square box that's bolted to the charger) and the plug. Tesla's current CCS1-to-NACS adapter doesn't use a cable, so there's no option to simply increase the...

It seems to me that one possible unexpected, but positive, outcome of the recent Tesla/(Ford/GM) announcements is that other charging networks will be forced to carefully examine their businesses in an effort to find ways to make themselves more appealing than Tesla Superchargers. There are...

The existing discussion seems good and productive. I have a few comments and suggestions.... This is a particularly important point. With EV adoption increasing rapidly, the desire, or even the need, to charge at condos and apartments is only going to increase. Even though it will be costly, it...

That 50 kW limit is pretty limiting by today's standards. A more likely scenario that would not require CCS support is that a charging network could negotiate with Tesla to license or open the Supercharger communications protocols. I'm not saying I think this is likely in the sense of >50%...

Remember that Jim Farley commented in an interview that Ford and Tesla had been in discussions for "a couple of years" prior to their announcement. That's an imprecise number, but if taken literally, it means that Ford and Tesla were in discussions for at least a year prior to Tesla's opening...

+1 on this. Ford has explicitly said that they plan to add Tesla Superchargers to their vehicles' in-car navigation systems, and they'd be phenomenally incompetent to add useless-to-Ford V2 Superchargers to that system. (Well, I suppose I could see it happening as a bug, but I expect it would be...

I believe that by "V3+," @ItsNotAboutTheMoney meant "V3 and later." The deal appears to be to give Ford and GM EVs access to most or all current V3 Superchargers, and presumably most or all new Superchargers (which at this point are all V3, with a switch to V4 anticipated for new installations...

It's a moving target, though. Suppose that Tesla and/or other automakers got everything working perfectly at Superchargers. Then Automaker A comes out with a new model, that breaks something. So somebody needs to fix it. Then Tesla updates their Supercharger protocol (maybe to fix the problem...