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Coming from a pre-Raven X with 22's, driving both the Raven and refresh with 20's and suspension set to comfort and purposely driving in some rough areas was one of the biggest improvements I found. That part really impressed me.

Gotta say, I like the arguments and features (or lack there of in some instances) for both legacy and refresh models. I love my 2018, the stalks, lack of cabin camera, etc. But at the same time after driving the refresh without stalks, newer centre console, etc, I'd be quite happy with that as...

I don't disagree - my 2018 P100D feels like a brand new car all around still (damn wish I had the active rear spoiler though lol). But one thing that I find a bit rough compared to newer models is the intel / MCU2 compared to Ryzen. Certain things still feel so slow. I mean like we've been...

Yeah that particularly I find such a weird design. And I also don't find a good spot to keep my phone (or passenger's phone) while driving. The centre console area on the refresh I find so much more well thought out.

It's stupid but this would bug me in a new X as well. My 2018 has EAP which I use for the majority of my driving day to day (even having to pay for EAP on a new X would sting), and our Y has FSD. I love using FSD whenever I can bug that eye tracking nag drives me crazy at times.

Thanks for sharing, really enjoying reading these comparisons. I have a Feb 2018 built P100D with 22's. Love the acceleration, but just in attempt to keep cost down if I was making the upgrade I was looking at LR with 20's (really want to maximize range). Very cool to hear about the comparison...

Nice summary, thanks for sharing. I currently drive a legacy X (pre-raven), and have been so tempted to upgrade to a newer model. I had a 3 prior to the X, and also have a Y in the household. I needed a bigger vehicle and ended up with the X (which I love) and don't think I could go back to...

I got this as well, as did a friend (from orders we originally mate in late 2021, delivered in 2022). I wonder if Tesla will catch on and cancel orders done with these coupons.

Just had the MCU upgrade completed on my 2018 X. My goodness what a difference. I'm in shock at how bad MCU1 was in comparison. Also nice to have side cameras available, FSD visualizations, recent software update, and oddly SiriusXM showing up as an option (didn't have that before, though not...

I agree and know exactly what you mean. I had a Model 3 for over 3 years, and just like other computing devices (phones, tablets, computers, etc) I could feel it slow down with system updates that brought new features, needed more resources, etc. But even then, it still felt miles ahead of where...

Damn, even with an order from back in the spring you still get hit with the luxury tax? Out of curiosity, any idea if the order can be edited still (colour, EAP, FSD)?

Old thread but this was helpful to read through. I previously had a 2019 Model 3 with MCU2 + AP3 hardware. Recently sold it and got a 2018 (Feb 2018 built) Model X P100D (MCU1 + AP2.5). Wasn't super familiar about the MCU1 v MCU2 difference. But after using the 3 (and a Y with the Ryzen MCU) my...

I do like the size and feel of the Y quite a bit. It feels like a beefier model 3 with a pretty solid stance to it. The 3 definitely a bit more nimble with handling, but compared to my X, the 3 and Y feel very similar to each other and significantly nicer driving dynamics. Funny, Y and X...

I put on winters 2 weekends ago (I ordered a set of 19" wheels + tires from pmctire). Last weekend we had a decent amount of fresh snow (nothing like the several feet worth that Buffalo was hit with), but it was enough to test them out and get a good feel. I do think in certain climates, you...

Been amazing so far. Honestly I'm very impressed with the driving dynamics, handling and comfort (I've also had a 3 and wasn't expecting it to handle as well as it does given the heigh/size). Only issue, I noticed early on was a rattle + squeaking coming from the rear bench. Made an...

Thank you!!!

Been searching quite a bit but can't find anything. Recently purchased a used 2018 X. The front cubby space in the console has slots so you can put those inserts to use as cup holders (see pic). This X didn't have any. Any clue where I can buy these things? Thanks!

No, I recently purchased a used 2018 X with EAP. Requested service for a couple small items, and also asked about pushing a software update. they replied saying it was on the most recent version.... My 3 has FSD, but its on 2022.20 branch. 2022.8 seems quite old.

I just picked up a 2018 X and its on 2022.8.10.5. Is this really the most recent software version? wouldn't 8 refer to the 8th week of 2022?

570 with inductions from Fremont, LR.

Appreciate that feedback, thanks

Mind I ask why you say that? I've been looking at a few used options online, as well as some sites in Canada like PMCtire and blackcircles.ca. I just want to make sure I end up with correct wheels. For example, if I use a squared setup, does it affect anything if the rears are not as wide as...

Not sure if my Y has the new suspension (took delivery Oct 23), but the ride comfort and handling really stood out to me - excellent combination of comfort and handling, much better than I was expecting.

Thanks. And yes, definitely the refreshed S/X use bluetooth TPMS (along with the Y and 3 was updated in 2021 I believe).

Tesla store just has a staggered set of 20's available, and it mentions only compatible with the 2021 forward. From any searching I've done it seems like the bolt pattern, centre bore and offset are the same across all X models, so confused as to why the package on Tesla says not compatible...

Thanks! Any idea if specs for the X have changed with regards to wheel size / bolt pattern / etc over the years?

Hi All - I'm looking at getting a used X, 2018 P100D. It currently has the staggered 22 setup, but no clue what sizes can be used for winters. Been searching and trying to get a good idea, but haven't had a lot luck with definitive answers. I think the staggered 20's would be 255/45R20 +...

Nice. I might be in the minority, but I dislike the mud flap look and prefer not having them, so it didn't bother me too much, lol.

Same here, no more Tesla plate frame nor did it have mud flaps (seems most deliveries past few days were missing them).

My pickup went well - car was just about flawless. A lot of little details and improvements I can tell have occurred these past few years since I got my 3 in 2019. It was quite busy in Oakville today with a lot of deliveries occurring!

Congrats to all the pickups the past few days. @Voltaire67 - hope your remaining issues get resolved. Unfortunate to have to deal with that with a new car. I’m headed to Oakville shortly to pickup our Y!

99% sure they can remove FSD from new vehicles like that.

Interesting to see some actual inventory.... But please don't tempt me again like that 😄

No, and to be honest I didn't even think to ask lol. I needed to update names on registration and ask re trade in. I haven't had any other communication with an SA or text so it seemed like the easiest way to get help.

We're nearing the end of these long waits. I stopped by the Oakville store today to update some info on my order. It was busy, and sounds like they're doing 60 deliveries per day this week.

I've heard about that but have never received a text lol. Just the odd email for scheduling delivery.

Makes sense. I've been curious about possibly changing FSD to EAP, or adding a trade in, but I don't have an SA. Had a great connection with one from my 3 a few years back, but he left Tesla a little while ago. Maybe I need to swing by the store and ask in person.

Wow, crazy. How was it switching EAP for FSD? I notice I can no longer make any changes like that online anymore. Do you have a SA you check with?

@canadian.bacon - that sounds like a no brainer with the trade!

Any of you guys trading in a Tesla? I've been thinking about selling me 3 privately, but wondering how reasonable of a trade in offer I would get.

Looks like its really happening for us with late October deliveries!

Same here - my 1 week window turned into 9-10 day window (with an earlier date) and then shortly after received an email to schedule pickup.

Just got email to choose a delivery time (my window is currently 9 days and was offered 22nd or 25th for delivery). 1 week today I’ll be picking it up. NF570, though still no VIN in app / website / MVPA.

FWIW, I can only see my VIN in source code. Not in the app, website or MVPA. It showed up when my EDD dropped to a week.

The P is tempting but I’d say don’t switch. I was tempted to cancel at times but our older orders are before several price increases. They’d love for us to cancel. Don’t give in lol.

Mine just updated too! was Oct 24-31 and now is Oct 18-27. Though the new EDD is 2 days longer…

Nice! We’re pretty close, mine is 5709XX. mine is dec 21 order, white on black, 5 seater, 20’s.

Thanks for sharing. I'm with TDMM as well and will likely be calling them in a week or so for my Y. I do have a 3 and another vehicle with them that have the 5 year replacement cost option. Interesting to hear how they no longer offer it. Do get the sense that the market / economy are all out...

LOL Nice!

Not sure when it changed, but even older orders were getting the credit to use. Friend of mine with a Nov 21 order did, and I actually just got an email with credit last night for my Dec 21 order.