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How secure is glove box? Can thief pry open door or cut open bottom/back?

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With sentry mode video storage USB stick being in the glove box, the strength of glove box becomes even more important.

How secure is glove box? Can thief pry open door or cut open bottom/back?

What material is the glove box door made of (metal, plastic, other)?

What material is the glove box back & bottom made of (metal, plastic, other)?
 
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This is mostly plastic. It can fairly easily be opened with a simply pry car. Almost no thief is going to bother with a grinder or other slow and noisy tool for something like a glovebox.

It is not a vault / safe. But it safer than inside the center console which offers no lock.

If you’re obsessed with locking down the sentry recordings the pull the whole console out of the car, hack in the port behind the console, install the drive in the car innards where even you can’t get to it or say route it to somewhere you can but no one else would ever look, then put the console back. Some folks have done this and even documented on YouTube.

Glovebox with pin is vast update for most.
 
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This is mostly plastic. It can fairly easily be opened with a simply pry bar. Almost no thief is going to bother with a grinder or other slow and noisy tool for something like a glovebox.

OK, but does it take a long pry bar or will any small hand-length pry bar/ screwdriver do?

It is not a vault / safe.

Safes have fire ratings as to how many minutes it can protect contents. The rating also depends on the type of material the contents is make off (paper, plastic, mag tape, diskettes, usb drives, hard drives, etc).

So how long it takes thieves to get in with which commonly available & noiseless tools.


If you’re obsessed with locking down the sentry recordings
Glove box with pin is vast update for most.

Has nothing to do with obsession. What is point of recording it if they steal the recording too.

Like all the times I found new customers that did computer file backups but never tested the backup. After years of backing up files, they finally needed to use the latest backup & found it did not work. They had been doing it wrong for years and never had recorded what they really needed. Never tested their backup procedures.

It is professional best practice in security industry to have video storage at some distance away so thieves have harder time stealing your stuff AND the surveillance video storage. Slow them down.

Not all thieves are morons. There are thieves who look for the storage devices/media. Hopefully you can make it take a long enough time that some of them believe a search for the media is too risky.

If a standard screwdriver that most thieves might carry can be used to pop open the glove box in a second then the glove box is barely any better than the console.

If you’re obsessed with locking down the sentry recordings the pull the whole console out of the car, hack in the port behind the console, install the drive in the car innards where even you can’t get to it or say route it to somewhere you can but no one else would ever look, then put the console back. Some folks have done this and even documented on YouTube.
Glove box with pin is vast update for most.

Thieves have discussion networks too. Tesla's are getting pretty famous and Tesla have pretty different look so thieves will start to know that the sentry mode storage device is in the glove box.

Not going to hack physically on a $30K-$50K car. I do not have that kind of money. I think most customers will hesitate too.

Tesla should make an alternate location or mirror video to 2nd drive location in the frunk.
You have to make it easy for customers to do the right thing (best practices).
 
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I mentioned IF obsessed.

Pulling the console is not a huge issue. Just time and patience.

you can also plug into the console and then run to a hidden location without moving anything. Just tucking cables into and under body panels. I’ve done with before with a car. You will have recording and drive but they can unplug once is. No interior camera so you get them coming in but not out.

it’s a glovebox. There is no rating. It can be broken in to in seconds with a proper screw driver or small pry bar.

Truck is less secure than glove box as there are no key locks to lower seat so if they’re in the car and drive the seats to get into drunk easier than glove box. Unless you use and aftermarket add on the lock the flip seats from inside the truck.

A theif is not braking into the car for the drive. They’re doing that to cover tracks after going for phones; computers, luggage etc. that’s going to take more time to then stuff in the car or truck. Truck can also be popped faulty easily. If they know it has cameras and this a drive they will also know to cover their face. They will unlikely know to look into the console and glovebox or willing to take the extra time.

again there are loads of options to remote mind in other replaces. Tesla is not going to armor the glovebox to a set standard.

The main advance of the glovebox move was just one more layer of security for thieves to get through. Regardless how basic or limited security.

Tesla is not going to change the layout anytime soon. Not that high on list. Is of minimal vale to most.

you can rouse to any place in the car with various costs,complexity and cost. Most petiole can do themselves in an hour or two and for no / little coats.

You’re comments sound more little what you want Telsa to change vs what can you do and how easy and costly.
 
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With sentry mode video storage USB stick being in the glove box, the strength of glove box becomes even more important.

How secure is glove box? Can thief pry open door or cut open bottom/back?

What material is the glove box door made of (metal, plastic, other)?

What material is the glove box back & bottom made of (metal, plastic, other)?

Buy an after market dashcam that uploads data to the cloud or something, if this is your concern. Sentry mode was something bolted on by tesla to help with car break ins. Its better than nothing, but if you are concerned about "how long it takes to break into the glove box, what materials is it, can a crowbar get into it.... etc etc", then you want some other solution.

The glove compartment is just as ( and only as) secure as the glove compartment in basically every other regular, non modified, vehicle.
 
With sentry mode video storage USB stick being in the glove box, the strength of glove box becomes even more important.

How secure is glove box? Can thief pry open door or cut open bottom/back?

What material is the glove box door made of (metal, plastic, other)?

What material is the glove box back & bottom made of (metal, plastic, other)?
There is a video of someone opening the glove box with a small Allen key.

To do so, you need to open the passenger door and you can access the glove box latch on the side with the Allen key.

I guess this was designed this way in case the electrical lock was not working.

Note: there have been several discussion about this topic.

The concern was if you give your car to a Valet parking, it would be kind of difficult and not very discreet
for a Valet attendant to open the passenger door and then to try to open the glove box.

However, if you plan to leave your car at a body shop a mechanic for example,
there would be plenty of occasions to have the car passenger door unlocked
and to have someone eventually opening the glove box with an Allen key.

In the case of a robber, the glovebox will be just broken.

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unbelievable the stuff that gets posted...so you've spent hours (days?) "securing" your precious USB stick and it captures the masterthief who has thwarted teslas ultrashield security system. YOU HAVE VIDEO PROOF OF THE PERSON THAT BROKE INTO YOUR CAR!!


No one cares....
the police don't care they dont waste their time with petty crimes
the perp dont care, cause he knows the police dont care

NO ONE CARES!!!
 
Thieves are not going to open glove box just to get the USB stick. Camera footage won't matter much when everyone is wearing a mask. We have so many package theft in our neighborhood with doorbell cam footage posted. No one can recognize anyone as everyone is wearing hat and mask.
 
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unbelievable the stuff that gets posted...so you've spent hours (days?) "securing" your precious USB stick and it captures the masterthief who has thwarted teslas ultrashield security system. YOU HAVE VIDEO PROOF OF THE PERSON THAT BROKE INTO YOUR CAR!!


No one cares....
the police don't care they dont waste their time with petty crimes
the perp dont care, cause he knows the police dont care

NO ONE CARES!!!
Wrong. Neighbor got his car purposely dinged and keyed several times at his kids little league. Clear view of the perp and is pick up plates as he pulled away. $4,500 repair bill plus lawyer fees for the perp. Not to mention that bad press on the local paper.

You are correct, Police did nothing except provide him with a police report for his attorney.
 
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Wrong. Neighbor got his car purposely dinged and keyed several times at his kids little league. Clear view of the perp and is pick up plates as he pulled away. $4,500 repair bill plus lawyer fees for the perp. Not to mention that bad press on the local paper.

You are correct, Police did nothing except provide him with a police report for his attorney.
Well, Glad to see police on Kolob are ON IT!!! Here on earth they could care less
 
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In the manual:
- Security Settings > Standby, Alert, and Alarm States

> NOTE: When the Alarm state is triggered, the most recent six seconds prior to the security event may be sent to Tesla for temporary backup for approximately 72 hours. You can enable or disable the collection of this video at any time by touching Controls > Safety & Security > Data Sharing

I would assume if someone is inside your car then the Alarm just went off, if they break into your glove box and take the USB, there is a chance Tesla will have footage of them breaking your window? Better than nothing.
 
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I worked on a steel insert for the center console. It was a very very complex build for my garage shop. But it does protect the usb stick (and anything else in the center console). I’d imagine something similar could be built for the glove box....I’m not going to do it as custom fabricating funny shaped boxes sucks.