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    Ontario Buyers: Green Plates vs Normal Plates

    " I do not commute and I like the choice of several lanes vs. stuck behind some slow poke in the HOV lane." It's uncommon that the HOV lane is slower. With GV/VÉ you always have the choice of getting out of it…on average on the QEW eastbound during rush hour, the HOV lane has saved me 20...
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    Tesla Sues Ontario Government

    The reports on this that I've seen in the last hour are incomplete, confusing, contradictory, and badly written. Here's hoping the government is cornered, but don't count on it. The lawsuits could go on for some time; it's every con government's ideal to force its opponents to lose by drawing...
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    Tesla Sues Ontario Government

    As of 10 PM on the 27th, no traditional media have picked this up AFAIK. While I won't doubt the basics, I caution against interpreting a ruling almost no one has read and no one in a qualified legal position has commented on.
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    Supercharger cost (Ontario Generally) vs Home Charging (Toronto)

    I offer a few more corrections, from my experience, which includes driving a Tesla for four years and metering the electricity at home for two: 1. The electricity price at home off peak is probably not 10% of the gasoline price. For the Model S it seems in the 20% range if gasoline is at about...
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    Supercharger cost (Ontario Generally) vs Home Charging (Toronto)

    Where I am in S. Ont., the off-peak rate is presently about 9.435 cents, all in. That includes all the per kWh charges plus taxes. It does not include fixed charges that occur regardless of how much energy you draw. I'm led to believe that across S. Ont. the rates are similar --- but you have to...
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    How far must you drive to recover the extra cost of a Model 3?

    This project has had to be abandoned, at least temporarily.
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    How far must you drive to recover the extra cost of a Model 3?

    I've updated my data and now calculate that the currently available Model 3 recovers the 30% increase in price after approx. 20,000 km with the current Ontario rebate, and approx. 123,000 km without it. As I said, a work in progress…one difficulty is determining the fuel efficiency of a...
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    How far must you drive to recover the extra cost of a Model 3?

    Thanks to all who've commented. I hope to make the spreadsheet available in due course, because users would be able to see the result after inserting their own figures, e.g. for gasoline price and electricity price. It's still a work in progress (with probable future adjustments), based on a QC...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Good point, although he's an ignorant, spiteful jerk, so…while he's at it, why not put in a special EV road tax? How about $2500 annually per car? "No," says his puppet master Harper, don't do that. Make it $5,000." Did I say spiteful jerk?
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    The rebates will probably be cancelled asap so that Drug Frod can give the money to his pals and his own businesses and boast what a great job he's doing for Ontario. I don't suggest believing the previous words from the Con Party about honouring rebates in progress.
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    How far must you drive to recover the extra cost of a Model 3?

    See above comments. This is an exercise to aid people looking for an electric car, aware that they generally cost more than an equivalent ICE car, mostly because of the battery cost per kWh. Trying to find a specific model to compare for nearly any car is difficult, contentious, and not the...
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    How far must you drive to recover the extra cost of a Model 3?

    I'm sorry to hear that. In no way do I want to suggest that the only reason to buy an electric car is because it's cheap enough, or pays for the difference after a certain number of km or miles. There are many things that go into the decision of what to buy. Recovery of extra cost is only one...
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    How far must you drive to recover the extra cost of a Model 3?

    Good. That makes the Model 3 an even better deal. But partly because there will be differences of opinion on what's comparable, the spreadsheet uses that 30% difference. It gets that assumption from the Innovative Vehicle Institute in Québec, for vehicles with a battery size of more than 50 kWh...
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    How far must you drive to recover the extra cost of a Model 3?

    Nothing specific. This is hypothetical to an extent, meaning that you assume whatever car it is, the Model 3 costs 30% more, for the sake of the exercise.
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    How far must you drive to recover the extra cost of a Model 3?

    I'll wait 24 hours before presenting the distance I've come up with.