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How about range... am seeing that going from 21" on the MS, to the 22" on the plaid drops the range from 375 to about 348 ...... all of a sudden instead of a MS with 400 miles, with the plaid u r limited to a max of 348 and likely a 300-320 miles in real life. Should that be a factory that I...

I guess another way of making a prediction, how big of a difference was there between HW2 vs HW3? Are they both able to do FSD? Even though this can be a non-scientific approach, but it might be at least an indicator. Watching some YouTube videos, seems to me that HW3 with FSD is doing an...

Not sure why the sarcastic comment. Seems pretty common on Tesla forums not sure why. If you don't have a useful answer, just pass. Clearly am not an experienced Tesla owner/fan and just trying to figure it all out and learn about Tesla's stuff. If my question seems a bit ridiculous or silly...

As I indicated, I am in the process of buying a 2022 or 2023 MS or maybe MX. How important is it that I go for a new or fairly new 2023 to get the HW4? Will I regret it in the future if I get HW3? What really am I losing by just having HW3 instead of HW4? I envision that I will be on a...

Hmmmm I see…. Man thanks so much for the honest feedback and saving me a ton of time and money. If that’s true, I wonder if the 2020-2021 BMW B7 Alpina would be a better replacement of my current S-class….. It’s luxury, heaving, super comfortable, shiny exterior and also good on highways and...

Interesting. If your decision is based on the service/maintenance records, that might be an outlier sort of data point. Both of my S-class vehicles lasted 6 years in my possession and never ever went to dealer for mechanical issue, literally not a single issue. Mostly re-calls (about one for...

Can someone also advise on the reasonable failr market value nowadays for the 2022 plaid, say around 10K miles? ASSUMING IT ALSO HAS FSD?

Looks like the best is to wait for the right one to pop up on the market it. I would not mind paying high 60s to a dealer, but private sale, a 2022 Tesla S with 20k+ miles will never sell for more than low or medium 60s, and there are many people hunting and just wasting time on autotrader...

Yes... that's the problem of most Tesla current owners, they didn't realize how far German vehicles have upgraded their systems also in the last 1-3 years. Yes I can do that all together from my S-class and my BMW X7. Interior temperature does not matter, car syncs to the constant last setting...

I like all of that but the problem is that I can still do ALL of that using either of my current Mbenz or BMW... "s. I can cool or heat the car before I go out. I can check out the sentry mode and see if anyone is near the car. I can easily send my driving destinations to the car to navigate...

Thanks @DayTrippin You made it fairly easy for me to push the MY out of my list, but I always thought the X is another option that can be as good as the S. I am interested in the S and have it at the top of my list for now, but I am not a fast driver and I think the MS LR will have just enough...

I am interested in knowing more about your experience driving the Y and the difference between the S and Y and how they drive. My daily drive is an S-class and I am thinking of enjoying a Tesla Model S for the first time though I have really very poor expectations but will give it a try as a...

Hello, Looking at a number of 2022 MS vehicles, some have the new headlights and some have the older ones. Of course all of them have the refreshed interior. Is it a deal-breaker or should it matter if I find two identical vehicles except for headlights? Is that something I should factor in?

I agree. It seems that the majority of 2022 in the 20-30K range are selling for about mid 60s in the end, despite dealers posting them for 70K which no buyer is offering. I think dealers and sellers are quickly realizing that posting something for 70K+ for that mileage and so on is only...

Yes, but I thought things like the size of the wheel, paint, interior color alone can add a good $10K or so... so, if the used vehicle with mid 20K miles has all these added spec's, I wonder if the fair market value is still in the low 60s or if high 60s is reasonable.

Oh wow, that's kinda lower than the deal am getting. I am closer to high 60s based on current asking price. But also am looking around and I can't find anything close to the numbers you are referencing, maybe am not looking at the right websites?

Thanks everyone. What do you all think is a reasonable asking price for a 2022 Long Range in the 20-29K miles; knowing it is from a private seller? No FSD.

I think I will be buying a 2022 Model S. It has mileage in the range of 20-30K miles. MAIN QUESTION: I might buy it site un-seen, is there anything I need to be aware of or worried about??> Also, specifically for 2022, any special packages (I assume there is no more premium sound or regular vs...

hmmm am not sure that is true though. Test driving the i4 vs the model 3 made me re-think my approach about how much behind Tesla interiors and options/packages are. I get the drive experience stuff, but i4 is also electric and lane keep assist is more than enough for me. The insulation and...

I agree

Thanks for the comment. You read my mind, and that's exactly same reason I am considering the Tesla as a replacement for our in-town trips only, but certainly not a replacement for my long-trip highway vehicle. The comfort aspects and luxury touches that you referred to are things I do not want...

I just wonder how come the CT will be cheaper than Model X or Model S!. The CT is larger and offers more for the consumer. Perhaps it's just cheaper to build? If so, I would really hope that the original expectation that Dual motor is somewhere between 50K to 70K USD. I would sell my current...

My feeling is that there will NOT be any CT until 2 years anyway, lol

I asked the question to Model X users, but am also curious to know what Model S users think about CyberTruck. Question 1: How many of you here will or may transition to the CyberTruck when it's released? Question 2: What are your expectations for the true final for the 2-3 different motor levels?

Hello, I never had a Tesla, but I had one EV and currently one PHEV. I have a deposit on the CyberTruck (late deposit) Question 1: How many of you will or may transition to the CyberTruck when it's released? Question 2: What are your expectations for the true final price of the 2-3...

Can anyone share a photo of how do these wheels look like if the wheel cover is removed? Car is 2021 refresh design. The car is a few hours away from me and am trying to negotiate a couple of things before I make a trip for a test drive. They are scratched but I don't see myself needing the...

Agreed.... Never seen any subscription model on any BMW. I still think it is an advantage that as a consumer I can buy and built the same car for much cheaper if I do not need the hardware where factory can pass to me those savings from not adding that hardware on it. Today, one can buy a 2023...

Yes, they are conservatively transitioning to touch-screen only. Most iDrive 8 users "claim" they never used the knob anymore with iDrive 8 (it's a redundant knob anyway). I would rather keep it as I personally still prefer to rest my hand on the central console leather and fingers on the knob...

Sorry for the multiple responses, time expired before I was able to come back to edit and complete my response: Yeah that depends on the family and their lifestyle. Plus my wife and I do share the rear seat for a good portion of our monthly 8 hrs trip. Comes handy and the rear hot massage seat...

There is no subscription for heated seats (that's only some BS that some online forums created). It might exist in some countries, but here in the US, there is not a single vehicle offered ever for such subscription. And, by law, they are not even allowed to take a way a feature and convert it...

Hmmm, that sucks. I searched online and have some understanding about the potential cost of EAP and FSD, but can you confirm current (most recent) monthly subscription rates? I don't use the feature much (not at all in-town) but I'd appreciate the lane change assist and better lane centering...

Yh that depends on the family and their lifestyle. Plus my wife and I do share the rear seat for a good portion of our monthly 8 hrs trip. Comes handy and the rear hot massage seat with recliner watching your favorite football game is something else. Not to mention that the front seats...

Every 3-months at minimum. My former 2018 up until 2022 when I sold it was getting OTA of with many of them in 2022 were major improvements. Current owner told me a few weeks ago he is still receiving OTA to date.

Much appreciated

Agreed. Not sure about the “similar size” part of it. S- this window??

Assuming the new approach works better than Parking Sensors, will older models also get the same implementation technology wise since it's all camera based? FSD isn't a priority for me, nor that I will buy it or pay for it on any future Tesla I get. I prefer spirited driving, though I never...

@bmah

While I did expect that the demography (aka.: maturity: kids vs mature men, etc.) of users on a Tesla forum to be slightly different than that of a Mbenz S-class forum, (just because of the more diverse pool of Tesla owners vs S-class owners; in a way that finding some childish people or...

Thanks, that makes sense and doesn’t seem to be an issue I should worry about

Agreed. That was my point and I know photos will make it more understandable

SMH

I checked the photos of the 2021 Model S that am going to test drive this week. There are no holes. Is that an indication that it has no sensors? If so, when will the software be able to accommodate (sensor-like) behavior? Will that (in the present) impact the vehicle ability to park itself...

I am pretty much comfortable just like most of you driving a nearly 120K Model S or Model X Plaid ... .An S-class fully loaded isn't that much far away in price from Model S/X Plaid. So, we are both enjoying our time during weekends. Why not..... I don't understand the comment. Our X7 is...

I have most of them already, for relaxing highway trips. The one that is due for a new toy now is our in-town daily drive which is right now is the Plug-in Hybrid X5 (60K miles today, 2020). The discussion of highway trips. Our highway drive for the past 12 years have always been S-class...

I'll be test driving that 2021 Tesla Model S based on the feedback here look like nothing much to lose compared to new 2022. I'll see if the dealership is willing to let me test it for half a day.

I appreciate the feedback. Yeah probably am enjoying the back and forth while also helping me to better see how others use their vehicles; Sorry but what's your problem with the back and forth if am the OP good with it? Just trying to have a conversation and a few comments here we really...

So am I reading that right? Newer Teslas have no parking sensors !????

8 thousand ls buttons? Hmm.. as I expected, some Tesla owners live in their own world and have no idea how car other companies have gone since they got into Tesla. Count number of “useless” buttons in the new X5 or the new X6 or the 2023 X7 with the new iDrive 8 and get back to me. After-all...

Yeah X3 does not have BMW hands free highway drive assist. It due for a refresh now so that’s why, and it's one of the last ones to get the refresh being a low tier vehicle. The new BMW full hands free driving would have driven 100% the distance no issues. X3 is 5-6 levels lower than X4, X5...

Hmm, a bunch of arguments with zero facts behind them. Not sure what your definition of technology is, but if it’s means a large ipad screen where all the benefits are with zero functioning features around the cabin (and for others in the vehicle traveling with u) then good for u. My main...