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The left taillight is 8mm and the right 2.5mm which is about one side 300% the size of the other. One 50% larger (150% the size) would be 4.2mm vs 6.3mm. And actually I would have taken double (200%) in the last delivery, but then with 300% it was even worse. So that would be 7mm vs...

Quality has been improving continuously, and Elon Musk wants to improve it dramatically, including panel gaps. So I expect Who would believe that it would be "sound". I thought I quoted someone, but I had started typing one reply and got distracted with other stuff here. I couldnt care less...

Right, I can't ask a simple question without having some hyper sensitive fanatic getting all worked up. I can't be genuinely curious about how much people notice these things or what their own tolerances are. Some tesla people seem paranoid. Thank you for your insightful post.

Why do some people keep saying I need perfect gaps. I already said 50% larger would be ok. And that is much more than on a typical car.

I ALREADY SAID, I brought the caliper just because they claimed the difference was 1mm, which was nonsense told at 2.5 yelp star delivery center. So if they would repeat that I would show them that is false. Look at toyota camrys yourself, it looks like 2mm on each side. Or go even look at any...

I already told you that was accidentally quoted from someone elses post. Look it up. And I never said I war surprised so stop making baseless silly comments. Correction, I was going to type a reply, sounds like you... Im watching a movie and doing other work and lost track. One thing I...

hmm I must admit that is a good point. But I had my reservation from day one, so a few more months wont be the end of the world.

I can stand the heat fine. I will check the forum rules and follow them. And report all the others who have also broken them I am sure on this thread.

And by the way, the reason I brought the calipers is they told me the difference was 1mm on previous car, which was obviously false. I would not need any calipers in virtually any other brand because there would be nothing that would stand out. And secondly, you can usually chose from...

I didn't correct any grammar look who typed that and tell me who looks (the insult word you made to me) Must have quoted accidentally.

I am not "looking for gaps". It is impossible not to notice. Why are people so worked up that something specific bothers me or that they stand out more to me than others. I would notice that at any time. I have not seen a single modern car in parking lots with anything close to that. Of any...

Who said I don't have any prospect? I do.

Listen genius, they knew exactly what I would accept in advance. So there was no secret of what I would accept in advance. I even said 50% larger gap on one side would be fine, but not 3 times the gap on one side. So they could just take a quick look not that complicated. And it is bad luck...

They did not seem confident at all that it could be fixed. What I would want is for them to be able to determine in advance if it could be fixed. Have someone knowledgeable at the delivery center. I guess I should have just purchased it, taken it do service center and then returned it within...

I had 0 knowledge of taillight gaps specifically, I heard about panel gaps and that they had improved considerably recently. I just looked and just wondered why the hell, and my GF who knows nothing about cars thought the same.

Yes because there is no other car comparable to Tesla, and I live minutes from delivery center. I even saw several others I said I would take in case someone didn't show up. So all these people saying I was just looking for excuses are basically writing baseless nonsense.

They told me before the 4th delivery attempt.

Bacause they said they did not know if could be fixed. And they would not fix it before I purchased it since they could not at the delivery center, I would have to take it to service center (after purchase). Additionally, I have heard they frequently just say it is within tolerances and dont...

I find it odd how people make up facts based on assumptions. First of all they mentioned by phone, BEFORE the 4th delivery that it would be the last one that they would source for me. Secondly I did not pull they callpers with the salesperson. I went earlier and checked the matching VIN of...

Look at the survey, almost 20% so far would reject it.

Thank you for an intelligent reply. And by the way, I was not planning to check gaps in detail or anything. I just looked at the car and it stood out immediately.

Yet Elon Musk himself makes a big deal about panel gaps and customers and measuring tapes, as I quoted previously and customers

What is nonsense? On one occasion they said that maybe the service center could fix it, but not sure. Then I asked if it could be sent to service center before buying it, they said no. Another time they said something was screwed and could not be moved. 4th time they took it in delivery...

Right that makes sense, I enjoy wasting time and they did take it in to fix and could not, so maybe read what I posted. And i was clear from the beginning exactly what was too much of an eyesore.

I am willing to deal with some issues. As I said, about 50% of the cars in the lot were OK enough that it was not enough of an immediate eyesore. maybe 1.5x gap size on one side not 3x. I was just curious how many people find something like that and eyesore they cant ignore. I figured it...

Who says I am switching cars. I will wait until Musk implements what he mentioned about having the best precision and find a way to deliver to another location, or buy a used one I can check. My car could last 20 more years for the amount I drive. It is funny that panel gaps seem more...

First priority is that it functions well and the features. I do not need PERFECT gaps, just 300% is too much, maybe 50% wider on one side. Whatever is not an eyesore to look at. I would have probably taken it even with the door slightly misaligned.

For the taillight they took it in and claimed it was adjusted, but I saw no difference. It was not just the trim, but the whole door, the bottom of the door was lower.

Ever? Elon Musk said this: "Our car needs to be designed and built with such accuracy and precision that, if an owner measures dimensions, panel gaps, and flushness, and their measurements don't match the Model 3 specs, it just means that their measuring tape is wrong. "Some parts suppliers...

Also one side of the trunk is more flush than the other. Most other cars at the delivery center were even. The other pic shows the front or rear door misaligned. Most other cars at delivery center also had even doors.

I never said I am buying any of those, or that the gaps were perfect. But they do seem far better. Not needed when it is noticeable from 10 feet.

So you are saying tesla will never have gap tolerances as good as a Kia?

I pulled out the calipers the fourth visit, not no aid in the decision but to record the measurements. Eye balling it from many feet enough was enough to make the decision. And also to notice front door not aligned with back door. That is 3 times the gap in one side compared to the other BTW.

My current car is Toyota, previous was Honda. Never saw anywhere one gap 3 times the size of the other side and never had anything that bothered me. Also saw nissan leaf and chevy bolt. Nothing significant either except they are ugly.

Almost any car including toyota and nissan. Which car have you seen with those kinds of gaps?

I pulled out the calipers the fourth visit, not no aid in the decision but to record the measurements. Eye balling it from many feet enough was enough to make the decision. And also to notice front door not aligned with back door. That is 3 times the gap in one side compared to the other BTW.

I rejected 4 M3's in a row, once each Saturday, all mainly due to significantly different taillight gap on left vs right side. Maybe I'm too perfectionist but it really bothers me. Anyone know if there are specific policies limiting how many times you can reject cars? In my last visit I just...