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Yes Yep few days ago it tightened a bit.

I got a VIN just now and it was from Fremont

Just got my VIN for an 11/19 order for MYP no FSD. 367995

11/19 MYP order Jan 10 - Feb 7 Feb 13 - Mar 13 EDD got pushed back. I'm wondering if it's due to giga texas.

I have the same thing

11/19 MYP order current EDD is Jan 10 - Feb 7

My EDD moved up to Jan 10 - Feb 7 from Jan 22 - Feb 19.

I love what Tesla is doing by working on the FSD problem, but I absolutely think they mislead people. Plus the whole FSD is an investment thing that Elon pushes is a joke. I honestly hope Tesla gets hit for deceptive marketing. I really don't like how they handle charging for fsd and selling...

It's impossible to know without seeing behind the curtain. Could be diff branches, scrapped RC's, patches, etc...

It's not worth it for me, but I do want to try it once the fsd beta is released.

This. FSD for 10k is an absolute scam. I would pay 2k to have auto lane change though. That's really the only feature I miss that's not included with the base AP.

I had the same issue with freezing/reboots which seem to be fixed. Also, my car wouldn't connect to my wifi sometimes without a hard reboot. That seems to be fixed as well. It would just stop connecting to wifi after a few days. Even when going in the car and manually selecting my wifi network...

Pretty much everyone hates it. I think they'll be fixing it because of all the negative feedback.

They should give a free trial to everyone who has HW3.

I really hate the new layout. Having a smaller map and backup cam really sucks since I use those features daily. Seeing more of the car area is pointless.

I had a phantom braking event the other day on the latest release. It happened with no cars in front of me near an overpass on the highway.

Any idea what changed with the maps?

Just wait. They always offer deals end of quarter.

Sure I'd love to play with it. But wanting to play 10k for a hands on driver assist feature is a hard pass for me.

Nothing new in release notes, but it's odd to jump to .10 from 2020.44. https://twitter.com/LifeMiddie/status/1324784820271108103?s=20

The cost would absolutely effectively be zero to Tesla on a new replacement car. They would just have to enable FSD since the car already has HW3. The current FSD pricing model is a profit scam. Hopefully the subscription pricing will be reasonable, but I'm not holding my breath.

For sure. No way in hell I would want to do that. I just want my own personal robotaxi.

Elon's claim of FSD being an appreciating asset is absolute bullshit. I love Tesla, but this current FSD pricing is an absolute scam. Maybe things will change when robotaxis are a thing and true FSD exists, but that's not anytime soon.

I'm kind of surprised there isn't a 2020.40.8.12 build yet.

My crappy router doesn't give me specifics, but my car has been consistently uploading a good bit of data each day after I get home. Much more than it used to. This is also with only driving 20-30 miles.

I already have Autopilot that I got for free which is obviously better than supercruise. Again, I'm not hating on FSD. It just doesn't make sense for me personally to pay 10k for it.

10k for true hands off FSD where i can have the car come pick me up and drive me places. worth it 10k for current FSD which is still only to a handful of beta testers and still requires constant supervision/nags. not worth it But that is just my opinion. I'm optimistic about FSD, but 10k is a...

Waymo pulls back the curtain on 6.1 million miles of self-driving car data in Phoenix

The fact that Karpathy said he was excited it would be going into production builds before Elon announced the beta should be enough. And Elon said the beta was only a few days behind the build on his personal car which he’s claimed had the latest and greatest.

New Tesla app 3.10.9 on the app store

well it would work for me personally. Can’t speak for everyone.

They released this beta and definitely tried to FOMO people into buying it before they up the price. Don't fall for it. I am still pissed I wasted 6500 buying FSD on my first Tesla. I didn't recoup that money on trade in either, so it's not an appreciating asset as they claim. I didn't know any...

It's 100% a shady profit grab. I don't see how you can justify raising the price for something that just went to beta testing. I have no issue charging more for a new feature, but if I pay 10k vs 8k after Thursday I get no additional features. The whole FSD pricing just rubs me the wrong way...

They will have to support HW2.5 and older as long as they exist in the fleet. I would think of it more as a parallel effort. They supposedly have 300+ engineers working on AP, so I think they should have the bandwidth to do both up until they can push HW3+ only releases. This is all just my wild...

They like to push new features around Christmas.

2020.40.9 was just released yesterday.

People will like it when they realize how much money they could save by having 1 car per family instead of 2+.

damn this is too much real life. I hate listening to the managers and “tech leads” spout off what they think is going on and how the system “works” while having no clue what they’re talking about.

The difference is that it’s a universal software option that can be enabled over WiFi as long as it has HW3 which any new Tesla will have.

I just had a phantom braking event yesterday in the same spot/highway I've hit it before, and my car has the latest 40.8 software.

This aspect flies under the radar. There's a lot of money in selling data. Tesla is going to make a F ton of money just on FSD tech/data if/when they crack it.

Same here. As soon as I hit my driveway, my mirrors fold in. Then, when I leave my house they always fold right after I back out/leave my driveway.

I honestly have no idea what they will charge. But more than 150-200 is too much imo. 100-150 I think would be doable.

+1 I've owned a ton of fast cars. It's really hard to beat the Model 3 Performance. I don't think there's anything close for the money. Then, you add in all the benefits of it being an EV. One of the worst parts about high performance ICE cars is the maintenance and expensive parts. Never a good...

A guy in Hawaii got it. So excited for everyone who got fsd beta @vincent13031925 @TesLatino @kimpaquette @Kristennetten @WholeMarsBlog @AlohaTesla @arctechinc . Sorry if I forgot anyone. Enjoy.

They seem to be targeting people who have large followings on social media.

I have a ton of experience in the software industry, and I'm part owner of a company that sells licensed software to end users. In my experience, the market loves the SaaS model that is priced off usage and commitment. It significantly lowers the barrier of entry and expands your potential...

Daytime roundabout https://twitter.com/kimpaquette/status/1319663469860356096?s=20

It only benefits them to lower the barrier of entry to FSD. A lot more people will be willing/able to pay 100/month instead of forking over 10k.

Ahh yeah then that makes sense. It's probably wrong in Teslascope.