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  1. charlesgres

    Wiki Selling TSLA Options - Be the House

    But widening a spread (rolling the short leg up or the long leg down) always nets you credit.. So if your spread is too narrow, you can widen it with a profit, either same expiry or the next, separate action or as part of the rolldown of the spread.. Unless you no longer have the freedom to...
  2. charlesgres

    Wiki Selling TSLA Options - Be the House

    In my case my broker calculates $15k margin for one naked-put contract, so as if it was a $150-wide spread, which is way cheaper than a $400-wide spread.. Yet with a BPS the margin requirement stays fixed, whereas I would imagine my broker might decide to increase margin requirement for a naked...
  3. charlesgres

    Wiki Selling TSLA Options - Be the House

    Seems to me looking at past news events that the selling started already on the same day before the event.. So I would rather get out of the position Wednesday morning..
  4. charlesgres

    Wiki Selling TSLA Options - Be the House

    The power formula would be correct if your gain is a multiple of your margin requirement, i.e. multiple of $5k if spread width is $50, or multiple of $10k if spread width is $100..
  5. charlesgres

    Wiki Selling TSLA Options - Be the House

    4.2% every two weeks is actually 199.45% annualized, because you have to compound, i.e. the gain of the first week contributes to the result of the next week, and so on.. So, not 4.2 times 26, but 1.042 to the power of 26, minus 1.
  6. charlesgres

    Wiki Selling TSLA Options - Be the House

    Yeah, got so far.. But what does it mean practically?
  7. charlesgres

    Wiki Selling TSLA Options - Be the House

    What does it mean a put wall? How do you have to factor it in?
  8. charlesgres

    Wiki Selling TSLA Options - Be the House

    How much % of your cash reserve do you typically use as margin? Is 75% risky, given that you can always roll (theoretically) when SP goes the wrong way? What are the risks that can bite you? Margin calls, I suppose, but is the margin requirement not fixed with a BPS?
  9. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It's being discussed because it is new.. If realization is indeed 10 years away the discussion will thin out, and regain strength when it's becoming actual and relevant for this thread again.. So, not in favor of separate thread.. Already have too few hours in a day to read this thread...
  10. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    There are some subtleties to take into account, as explained by Meet Kevin here from about the 5'00 mark: In short: If their BTC assets shrink below purchase price, they get to write off the loss as expenses, even if they didn't sell.. When they reverse this loss they get to book it as a...
  11. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I agree.. I derive little value of what he's saying.. He'll always confidently state what will happen, and it never happens..
  12. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Still not getting it.. $500 calls this Friday stand at $0,13, so that's $13 per contract.. So you'd need 7 contracts or 700 shares as cover to gain about $90, against 700 shares' worth of about $290,000.. To make an 'interesting' profit of $1000/week you'd be around 7500 shares to cover 75...
  13. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Did you even read what she wrote? Here it is, whether she wrote 2 or 3 is immaterial: "Predictably, when @elonmusk announced at Battery Day last week that would cut the price of a Model 3 to $25,000, several financial analysts panicked, downgrading the stock and/or cutting their price targets...
  14. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Or maybe she just made a typo..? I think people are making a bigger deal from this than it is worth, IMO.. Whether she wrote Model 2 or Model 3, it changes nothing to the argument she was making..
  15. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I wish he had done that sooner though..
  16. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Thanks, that was interesting to read.. Bummer though that it is not what it sounds.. :( Yeah, that's what I mean with semantics.. What he meant was pretty clear though.. (even though incomplete)
  17. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Except that Tesla itself has explained on autonomy day they run their FSD in shadow mode, see this Teslarati article: Tesla Autopilot's stop sign, traffic light recognition and response is operating in 'Shadow Mode' That's what Cringely is referring to. One can discuss semantics, but he sees...
  18. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Tesla won the self-driving car war, they just aren't telling us | I, Cringely Tesla won the self-driving car war, they just aren’t telling us I, Cringely / by Robert X. Cringely
  19. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I am in the opposing camp of preferring DOTM calls. While it is true that a DITM appreciates at about the same rate as the share (delta~=1), which sounds better than an option with a smaller delta, like e.g. 0.5 which appreciates only half a dollar per dollar the share gains, you have to also...
  20. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yes, makes a lot of sense.. except that if it's exercised and you go in reverse with DOTM puts, you have to keep the cash around, which will net you no benefits if the SP keeps going up..
  21. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    But why 950$ and not e.g. $1000, and why 9/2022? The chances it'll go that high by that time are high, so you're on the hook for an ever increasing amount, unless you can get out at some point, but which will most probably be much higher than the premium you collect.. Even if you decide to...
  22. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Would you be willing to share your script? thx! edit: rephrased more politely.. :oops: (non-native english-speaker..)
  23. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Why? If you don't mind me asking..
  24. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You're making me nervous.. Belgium does not have a capital-gains tax, so I read.. Right? (Only have been trading actively as of this year, so did not yet have to wonder whether I have to 'declare' anything.. Do I?)
  25. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    My wife wants to pour every euro we own into this stock.. Have a hard time keeping her from doing it.. "But honey, we should keep some money to buy food!"
  26. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Just mentioned the most obvious reason to keep it short and snappy :cool:, but yeah, there are tons of other reasons why keeping your battery doesn't make sense
  27. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Here's one I found recently that I like: Tesla Inc.
  28. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I don't buy this idea of keeping your battery, and changing bodies.. Batteries will be commodities and low cost.. What is there to hang on to? I doubt he doesn't know.. he has heard all the bull arguments but remains unconvinced.. So, pretty sure he means $87 pre-split price, so $17.4...
  29. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Sorry, I can't even parse that sentence? What does it say?
  30. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    FWIW https://twitter.com/connectingodots/status/1297656449984847880?s=21
  31. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    No. https://twitter.com/enn_nafnlaus/status/1297495195878150145?s=21 ;)
  32. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    That's my strategy as well.. I buy the higher strikes for a higher leverage (because they are cheaper and so the delta gain is percentually higher), and when the SP approaches the strike price, I roll up to a higher strike, and when expiry approaches I roll up and out to avoid the theta...
  33. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    To be clear, I was quoting nafnlaus, a.k.a. KarenRei on this forum.. And indeed, is precisely the argument she is making to the guys thinking they can outsmart her (see her replies to their replies).. i.e. basically, trains have to start and stop in each and every station.. that's a lot of...
  34. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Actually, she has taken it upon her to fight desinformation and lies on Twitter, so the frequency and depth of information of her tweets these days are fenomenal.. More so I think then her posts here, because here she would be preaching to the choir.. On Twitter it's mostly morons and teslaq'rs...
  35. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    In related news, AAPL is approaching the 2T market cap.. People like stock splits, obviously..
  36. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/i8saks/ive_been_taking_stock_market_chart_and_turning/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Nice fun stock chart as art.. Link above for Ford, with explanations.. Below one for Tesla: TSLA year. Can you find the Easter Eggs? ...
  37. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    One other argument I haven't seen yet (but then again, may have missed a couple of thousand posts :D): If this was a dividend, it would be a 400% dividend, which is crazy.. and Tesla would have to finance the dividend, which of course they wouldn't.. it's your own shares that finance this...
  38. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I live in Belgium, and went through a stock split before (AAPL 1:7).. I wasn't taxed.. From what I gather this will be a stock split just like AAPL's..
  39. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Could you explain how it works? (what if sp goes down? etc..) thx
  40. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The Belter Nations could control the supply like OPEC did in ancient times.. (What was OPEC again? Can't remember.. o_O)
  41. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    One starship cargo load of platinum would be worth $200 billion.. I think they'll figure out a way to deorbit that.. :cool:
  42. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Here's an interesting video of The Angry Astronaut who explores the subject of asteroid mining and the crucial role that Mars and SpaceX will play into that.. It is easier to mine an asteroid in the asteroid belt from Mars than to mine the Moon from Earth.. Which is probably one of the reasons...
  43. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Seems to me that the funds are going to be able to buy in at bottom prices, so the run up we were all hoping for may not materialize.. It'll merely bring us back where we were last weeks.. Bummer.. :( Edit: which was double of what we had last month, I am not complaining.. but we'll miss the...
  44. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yup, that's the formula.. As to risk, I think it does not depend on the strike price but on the expiry date: the sooner the more leverage, the further the less risk.. Is a question of what you're comfortable with.. For me that would be around 6 months to one year out.. But I suppose that's...
  45. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I'll be happy to stand corrected, but at least it answers your question of when to sell: it doesn't really matter.. by rolling up you replace your calls by cheaper ones, so you can buy more contracts or you pocket the difference as a way of taking profit.. Either way you remain in the game if...
  46. charlesgres

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    How many weeks ago was it that Tesla surpassed Toyota in market capitalization? Today Tesla is bigger than second-place Toyota and third-place Volkswagen combined! That's my new metric: when can we add the next auto maker? Daimler tomorrow? Honda the day after?