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I didn’t purchase PUP because I didn’t want lower suspension and bigger wheels/harsher riding. I was waiting for this upgrade and got it as soon as I heard it is ready. Just came back from driving with the boost upgrade. The difference is very noticeable. Though I don’t have any measurement...

On that trip I had a pretty heavy foot, like full acceleration from 60 to 90 many many times. So perhaps not the best data point to understand the impact of bike rack on range. It seems 316 mile range is on flat or gentle rolling roads, 67 mph average speed and gentle acceleration. I don’t...

I don't believe there will be a serious competition to Tesla at mass scale for next 5 years. Very simple reason is the vast and fast charging network Tesla has. I love Audi's. Didn't even consider Etron simply because I don't want the hassle of trying to find a charger on a long trip (plus the...

165 lb was including the rack. 82 rack, plus 28,20,18,17 lb bikes.

Just finished my trip with 4 bikes on a platform rack and here is the update. First off, we only took the road bikes, including an electric road bike. Total rack + 4 bikes weight was 165 lb, only 5 lb above the capacity. The car was over GVWR capacity though. For Model Y AWD with Tow Hitch...

Sorry I wasn't very clear. I am not comparing the acceleration for Model Y vs Model S 75D from 0 to 60 mph. In fact their 0-60 acceleration is pretty much the same on paper. What I was comparing is, while they reach to 60mph from a stop at the same time, at 0-20mph section Model S 75 feels...

I am all for HUD. It doesn't crowd the dashboard and it certainly is nice feature. Again I might be a rarity as I heard people miss manual air vents. I absolutely love not seeing the air vents. It partly because of my OCD that manual air vents pick dust and no one cleans it well :) Plus it adds...

Not sure how you can make such claim without a statistically significant survey. If you truly have data to support your claim, I guess I am like OP and not in your "most people" category. I was given a choice, cost was not relevant for me between X and Y, and I chose Y over X (S and 3 was not in...

I am completely with OP on this one. I had a very similar experience when I got Model S as the loaner. The way Model Y drive feels much more tighter, giving more road feedback to driver. I hands down prefer the clean look of Model Y, especially with white interior. In Model S I felt like I am in...

Unfortunately, No. I have 19 inch wheels and these numbers are for 19 inch. The numbers are taken directly from the label on the car body. You are right though, 20 inch wheel Model Y towing capacity is even lower based on user manual. 21" capacities are the same as 19 inch wheel. There is no 22...

I wish. Payload capacity is 825lb. Tow capacity 3,500 lb. Max hitch weight is 350. When you put the trailer on you need to subtract hitch weight from payload capacity to find what is left for driver, passengers and cargo. These are from my car's tag. There is a big discrepancy going on between...

You know how many bikes you need, right? It is n+1, n being the number of bikes you have o_O

Have you guys watched Ford vs Ferrari? In addition to being a very good movie to watch, it just shows how hard it is for legacy car manufacturers to compete with a new comer like Tesla. Legacy Car executives will always think their own career with the bets made towards new technology has very...

Do three of you plus your gear collectively weigh less than 475lb? Because that is the payload capacity left after you deduct 350lb tongue weight from payload capacity. You may think that is crazy. I certainly think so, but those are the official numbers. Perhaps you can put all your gears to...

Your explanation suggests GAWR reflects a static capacity, which is not true. GAWR is a dynamic capacity of the whole car, measured at each axle independently. Hence all the other forces you mention that impacts frame, should be in affect when you load the car based on the axle capacity. Even...

Axles are connected to the frame though. If there is a frame weakness, it should have impacted GAWR, but clearly it doesn’t. I am not saying it can’t be but I can not think of any reason why and how axles can carry 6.5k lb but the frame can only carry 5k lb. At the end, GAWR is not a rating...

I purchased 9 brand new cars in my lifetime, 9th being Model Y. For the last 3 of them prior to Model Y, the price tag was between $80K and $100K. Never and ever I would have thought about checking for panel gaps in any of my prior 8 car purchases. And I don't accept the argument that "no one...

You might be right. Perhaps "brakes" is the only explanation left. But why put weaker brakes in Model Y in comparison to car's GAWR capacity? They clearly did not do that in other Tesla's.

I just finished my dry run with 4 bikes. Drove 30 miles, climbing up a winding road mountain and down, intentionally had heavy foot on accelerator pedal to push boundaries. It was asphalt but fairly rough road. Last 10 miles was highway, smooth 80mph riding with at times heavy acceleration...

I was returning my lease Land Rover Discovery. While waiting for my turn, now that I learned I should check for fitment and panel gap issues, I started to examine the cars on the show room. Keep in mind this is not the lot but the show room. Range Rover with a price tag of $130k, had a very...

Just to give more info, I just looked bunch of other cars GAWR to GVVR ratio. Model Y is a clear outlier. Why Tesla thinks Model Y axle/rim/tires can handle so much yet the car can't. Could there be an error on Tesla side?

Thank you for the info. I looked at bunch of sites as well and it all says GVWR includes Tongue weight, which is not great for Model Y. On the other hand, for Model Y, Front+Rear GAWR is well above GVWR. Looked at two other cars and their F+R GAWR is nearly equal to GVWR, unlike Tesla. Model...

I am little confused with the inconsistency of the information on payload and towing capacity. On my Model Y body, near passenger seat it says GVWR = 5302 lb - this is well established On another label on the body it says "the combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed 375 kg...

They did change the layout but to a less efficient layout. That was per my request as I did not want the panels to be visible from front, which looks south. They put those originally south looking panels to now west looking roof. Original Submission: Tesla Prediction 12,723kWh vs PCWatts...

I am on E-TOU-B but just purchased my EV and planning to change to EV2-A. But if they buy the electricity at the lowest TOU rates, maybe I should stay at E-TOU-B as in this plan, the lowest price is ~20 cents. Also, going back to original question, Tesla just updated my documents, two days...

Directionally what you are saying makes ton of sense. That said fog/cloud completely burns out after 10am. I thought the energy production is fairly small at those times even when there is full sun. Either way, even if I get what Tesla is predicting I should be fine because of net metering...

0 for north 90 for east 180 for south interestingly my house is positioned perfectly with north-south-east

Thank you all. Regarding the slope of the roof, I don't know have how Tesla would have know what the pitch is before they send their surveyor. So part of the difference might be associated with that as my pitch calculation is based on real life measurement vs theirs is an assumption perhaps in...

First of all thank you so much for all the information. Learned a lot to say the least. I've used PVWatts calculator with following info. location set to where I live exactly. Per Panel kW = 0.34kW (It says DC watts should be entered here. I am assuming Tesla panel 12.24kW. / 36. panels =...

This probably is a rookie question but I thought I'd ask. I ordered Tesla Solar Panel and Powerwall and at the beginning of the process. Received a Customer Layout, which needs to change but that is another story. My question is, in the pdf, it says System Size: 12.24kW Est. Annual Production...

I realized there is a dedicated discussion on platform bike racks and just posted why I decided to carry 210 lb bike rack + bikes there. I don't recommend others to do this as it is against the user manual based limits.

Model Y manual says that while tongue weight capacity is allowed to be 350lb, the vertical weight capacity for accessory carriers like bike rack to be 160lb. I am little obsessed about this phenomenon that the two are different and have been doing some calculations why that might be in if I can...

This whole vertical weight vs tongue weight difference is weird to me. I thought two would have been the same. If someone can find a scientific explanation why they are different, I’d appreciate If you can share. My only guess is in vertical weight they take into account of lever force, making...

That is a good point. No need to take that risk. Jan 1st, 2021 application it is.

Thanks for all the info here as I was trying to figure out if I can wait until next year to apply. After reading this, I decided that I am waiting for 2021 decals Question: In order to get the 2021 decals should we "apply" or be "issued" in Jan '21. Ca.gov website uses the word "issued" not...

I had issues on both on delivery. On the hood, the gap on the left and right was not the same. On the trunk door, the door was sometimes latching and sometimes doesn't and at the time of locking it was creating almost like a grinding sound which wasn't fun to listen to. I reported both issues...

Thanks for confirming that. I am still new and my efficiency is around 65%. I haven't gotten concerned because, let's just say, I don't hold back on pressing the accelerator pedal and hence I was expecting low efficiency. My first long trip coming up in early Aug but even then I figured, if I...

I don't know what is your expectation of "reasonable" is but I was in a same situation with you where 100amp needed to be upgraded to 200amp, replacing the whole electrical panel (old was outside, new put inside the garage), new electric meter, new grounding, pg&e line upgrade, pg&e and city...

It seems they've done something special. Before I ordered my Y with White seats, I watched 10+ YouTube videos who abuse their white seats and yet after 2+ years it still is white with no color transfer, including one guy wearing his jeans every week day for two years in his M3. Then I decided to...

I don't have the stats but I did climb a windy mountain from 0ft to 2600ft yesterday. It is so much fun to drive with one pedal on a mountain. As I approach a turn or switchback, I pull my feet from accelerator and as I am getting out of the curve pushing back all the way. Awesome feeling. In an...

Every single OEM's first three month of production has issues. I used to work for big three and at that time, the accountability was on "Product Development" team as opposed to "Manufacturing" for the first 90 days of production for a good reason. I guess Covid extended the 90 days to 180 for...

I really like this option. What happens when the pilot ends in Jan ‘21? Do you need to remove and replace with regular tag or keep it because you get it prior to pilot end date?

Thanks! I'll be checking time to time to see if it is out yet.

Thanks! The magnet connection to hitch is a great concept. Checked out eco hitch solution and agree that it doesn't look very attractive.

I put my bike rack on and off at least once and typically twice a week. The current hitch cover is a pain to take it off and put it back. I also have a feeling that I am going to break the plastic snaps after a while. Obviously, one solution is permanently remove the hitch cover but annoyed by...

My AC starts blowing cold air in 10 seconds. Yesterday, when parked I check inside temperature and it was 100. Turned on A/C Remotely and in exactly one minute mark temperature was 71F. Something doesn’t sound right with your A/C.

First of all thank you for all the help you guys provided as I am learning about Tesla, problems and processes. I'll probably no longer visit this section of the forum, as I'll move into the post delivery sections and figured I should report out my delivery to return the favor. I just got my Y...

I received a very detailed email but they don't have any info on the timing. Sometime today is what they say. I already sent the money. I have no concerns paying them ahead of time. If I reject, they have to send me the money back.

Just received a text "Hello, can you please reply to the Tesla email we sent you about your express pick-up on Monday (6/29)?" but there is no email. Perhaps another communication timing issue? Also, what is express pick-up. Do they hint that I should not bring a checklist with me? ;)

Thank you!