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You mean wait over a year

Wait... that's EXACTLY what is not happening on my 2020 Model Y and I've been feeling like I'm absolutely crazy for feeling like the turn-by-turn navigation UX is so ****ing terrible now! I feel like driving my Model Y is dangerous now because I recall always having the upcoming navigation step...

I'm trying to figure out why the turn by turn directions seem so terrible now. I'm pretty darn sure that in the past I would see the next turn show up on the left panel prominently when it was within the next 30 seconds or so, but now all I get is the directions showing in the very small UI...

I bet if I go use Netflix/Hulu it will be just as abysmal as it has been since I took delivery in September 2020. 😞 I’ll have to try out YouTube again but even if perfect, it’s just not anything I’d ever see myself using. I don’t have any desire to be reaching over and tapping around at various...

This model has been abused far too long and it’s really turned into poorly tested features rolling out in waves. It’s so very often a means to excuse having good test plans and that rolling out slowly is a way to minimize impact of any potential bugs. I see it almost daily. The intentions are...

I still find iOS Shortcuts to be far too limiting to be worth the hassle of setting them up. I’m not even sure why Apple bothers keeping it as a feature given how minuscule the adoption is and the generally bad customer feedback

Certainly sounds like something petty enough for him to do. God forbid people criticize the ever continuing dumpster fire that has been FSD promises.

🤦‍♂️ So you are of the mind that most online forum disagreements involve “trolls”. People really gotta stop perpetuating the idea that people who make negative comments are trolls. God forbid someone accept the fact that many people literally do have opposing views that aren’t just expressing...

I both agree and disagree. Cool that the car maneuvered around the open door car but the fact that the car crossed a double line to do it would warrant a ticket if observed. It appears there was far more than enough time to stop based on what I see. It’s situations like this that make it obvious...

😂 it’s adorable how you try insulting me based on my actual career experience. It’s also adorable that you actually believe *sugar* Elon says publicly, because he is well know for spewing absolute BS. Choose to believe what you want I suppose 🤷‍♂️

Literally nobody is claiming Tesla is trying to screw people intentionally regarding a V11 delay, so you can cut that nonsense off. Yes, there has been talk of moving to vision only for a long time. That is not in any way the cause of V11 now being over 6 months past when Elon proudly proclaimed...

Hold up. You actually believe that’s why there is a shift? You have to be chugging the koolaid to believe that a shortage was so specific to radar alone to completely change the approach. Did Elon spew some BS excuse like this that I missed? I actually work in the tech industry shipping new...

Why would the driver turn their head to look behind them when the car has backup cameras in the first place along with side cameras? I already don’t turn my head as it is

They can't even do the two they had, so adding one more just sounds like engineering attrition is about to spike at Tesla

Do people actually give a crap about that in a forum like this? That would be so unbelievably pathetic

I’m betting that it releases without the UI refresh, but it will have a temporary UI for the behind wheel screen. It seems pretty clear the interface shown off months ago is nowhere near ready for a launch

I mean… they really don’t. Musk has made it abundantly clear that he doesn’t value user feedback. It’s just whatever he wants, period

Huh? That's... a really awful analogy to make. Killing someone for stealing a candy bar is in no way even remotely close to me calling for Musk to not be leading Tesla. You are comparing what I said to a scenario with an extremely less impacting act (stealing a candy bar) and an egregiously...

Ah, ok. So you are in it for the money no matter who else is ****ed over. Got it. Got it. That actually makes total sense. I'm not surprised that most of the Tesla drivers here are greedy assholes who care most about their pocketbook rather than customer experience. I've made well over a million...

Oh I know... it's a cult of personality at this point. The blind worship of Musk in particular is beyond absurd

He's just lying when he's saying something 'will happen' and then it does not. These leaders have to be held accountable for the statements they make. Musk isn't necessarily explicitly lying, but he's constantly overpromising. With as often as his comments on timelines don't become reality, one...

My experience has been I can't rely on it at all. One month it's recognizing just about everything well including cars on side of the street, signs, and cones. The next month it's basically 50/50 on most things like sign and parked car detection. I've stopped having any expectation for it to...

Oh it's absolutely a danger. I've experienced 3 incidents of extreme road rage from my goddamn Tesla behaving like a complete dipshit on the interstate, deciding to slam on brakes for the dumbest reasons. If someone slammed breaks while I was driving behind them on the interstate for what...

I’m really just waiting for Musk to finally be held responsible for his constant misrepresentation of when things will come to market, effectively misleading investors. Musk should not be leading Tesla at this point and I cannot understand why investors aren’t demanding his departure. He’s smart...

Really? The latest updates show FSD being extremely dangerous for left turns in particular

It’s almost hilarious to watch this disaster unfold as a Tesla owner at this point because it’s just unbelievable how often Musk has overcommitted and missed timelines

This seems unlikely to even happen in the next few years, let alone in 2021

“major upgrade”? o_O I mean, it’s less shitty I suppose but still pretty awful. We still don’t have the ability to associate individual Spotify accounts to driver profiles.:mad:

I’m to a point where I don’t expect any “Part 2” of the holiday release. Musk is a hype man and routinely either lies or overcommits on things. I don’t trust really anything he says regarding timelines because he clearly has no clue

Which is ridiculous considering few ever get the regulatory mileage at all and it is rather expected it adjusts to driving habits. This is all the more reason to be pissed at Tesla’s piss poor approach to things like this

I think it’s just so absurd to spend money on a completely unfinished software feature. By the time it gets “good”, so many other auto companies and tech companies will be highly competitive and this mythical $40k price point for FULL self driving will be total bullshit. The price isn’t going to...

you actually think anything in the last sentence would ever happen?!

you massively overestimate how big the market is you are going on about.

“it hasn’t even been a month” Well, it has now and I fail to see how anyone could claim something is a “holiday update” if it’s a month past the holidays

Saying people are trolls doesn’t make it so. Is that what you think everyone who disagrees with you on something is? A troll? You are only coming across as a fanboy here and calling people you disagree with trolls is not helping any case you are trying to make.

We get it. You are a Tesla fanboy. Some people here rightfully point out how many lies Elon puts out without owning a Tesla, and others like me own a Tesla and also call Elon out on his regular BS. It’s kinda sad how defensive you are about all of this. Elon at MINIMUM is overly guilty of being...

Well, sure seems there’s no part 2 and Elon’s claim that the full set of features were pathetically below any definition of “hot/fire”. Anyone who takes Musk at his word is just a ****ing idiot. He’s as trustworthy as the average care salesman at your local car dealer.

Looking at an iPhone is fundamentally different than looking at a car instrument panel as the required focus in each use case is dramatically different. The battery icon on iPhone doesn’t need to be so obvious since it’s a couple inches outside the center of current focus.

I strongly disagree, not because the general argument is wrong, but that electric cars have such high variability in range based on temperature and driving conditions/style. I’m pretty regularly a bit surprised in how off my mental model is of the remaining rage.

I’m out of patience with Elon’s constant bullshit. He has promised too much by specific dates and not delivered more often than not. He also says things like the Model Y standard range being scrapped because the range would be unacceptably low back in July and yet here we are with it actually...

Elon’s consistency in committing to a timeline and failing to deliver is likely going to lead to an investigation. If there is even a hint that he’s knowingly misrepresenting Tesla’s ability to deliver, then he should be worried since that’s fraud

This goes to show how much chaos Musk causes at Tesla and how reactionary he is. He just put engineering teams suddenly in a position to continue supporting multiple layouts indefinitely because it was obviously not in the plan to begin with or it would have shipped as an option. Things are...

so we are just willing to lower the bar? This is just regular software development (not talking about FSD, just the system user interface and apps). Too many apologists in here giving a pass to Musk constantly missing timelines which are at a point of being lies to investors

Too many Tesla owners are blind loyalists and take any criticism as personal attacks. I’m also a Tesla owner that tells it like it is and doesn’t just jump to defend my car purchase. Being a blind loyalist to anything is just awful.

Tesla’s success is currently limited by Musk’s arrogance. He pushes for absolutely moronic changes to things like the UI without any design consideration from long running design experts from the auto industry. The white dash trim is an example of blatant idiocy because industry experts all...

If you do that intentionally, that is straight up fraud. Most CEOs know better than to give delivery estimates for things without high confidence because it invites investigation when you routinely miss dates. Doing what you say above is defrauding investors which is a serious crime

Tesla’s infotainment is sluggish, lacking in features, and generally very clumsy. At least Android Auto is integrated for most common services and enables each driver to use their own accounts easily, something Tesla is absolutely TERRIBLE with

The Tesla apologists/fanboys here constantly excuse it away but Tesla is really doing a horrible job with issues like this.

I’m well aware of the joke/sarcasm. I’m referring to the actual people who are convinced that makes the joke even exist. *facepalm*

Nothing is going to come out today. It’s mind blowing how people become so convinced of completely unsubstantiated rumors.