Blog Musk Gives Details on FSD 10.2 Beta Release

Tesla will release the next version of it’s Full Self Driving Beta on October 8, Chief Executive Elon Musk said in a tweet.

The company released last week version 10.1 of the software, which included a button to request access to the beta. Tesla previously only gave access to employees and select owners.

By requesting access, owners give Tesla permission to evaluate their driving to create a Safety Score. The Safety Score is an assessment of driving behavior based on five metrics called Safety Factors. These are combined to estimate the likelihood that driving could result in a future collision.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1442716005936078855

Musk said drivers will need to have a near perfect score in the early roll out.

“First few days probably 100/100, then 99, 98, etc.,” Musk tweeted.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1442707528924684293

Tesla’s self-driving system is currently under scrutiny from federal investigators after a series of crashes when Autopilot was engaged.

 

[LowlyOilBurner]

My experience has been that on normal autopilot, I still can get a ding when someone merges in too closely in front of me. However, on "navigate on autopilot" I get no dings for this whatsoever. Unfortunately, can only use NOA on the interstates at this point, so on surface roads and at busy times, I still occasionally get dinged for others unsafe behavior with normal autopilot. I've confirmed this numerous times as I tried to avoid the issue by using AP. Nonetheless, not a major issue as long as it is only the Unsafe Following that takes a hit as that seems to have a very low impact on your overall score. The hard braking though that sometimes occurs / is required has a couple of times knocked me down a full or more percentage point(s). I feel fortunate to be back up to 99%, for the moment anyway.

Same with TACC. There was a dump truck parked on the side of the road this morning, I was using TACC, I moved over to pass the truck, got the red collision warning as I passed the truck. Mind, I was no where near hitting that truck, but I got the warning and my “safety score” for that drive was like 49. I was able to end the day with a 97 at least.

 

[EVNow]

Mind, I was no where near hitting that truck, but I got the warning and my “safety score” for that drive was like 49.

You didn't try the reset to get rid off the FCW trick ?

 

[Sporty]

Yeah - the Safety Score's thresholds for aggressive turning and hard braking are really too punitive. I end up being THAT guy on the road leaving waaaaay too much space, going way too slow, etc so that I don't become "unsafe" by braking like a normal driver. I'd swear I've become a less safe driver as a result, and this car is sure a helluva lot LESS fun to drive knowing that Unca Elon is watching. We'll see how it goes for this week and maybe next, but otherwise, I'm gonna unenroll and drive my car like a normal person.

This

 

[Jabstep]

So, is it 2 weeks of ultra-safe driving, and then one gets to download Beta FSD???
Or is it an indeterminate length of time???

 

[EVNow]

So, is it 2 weeks of ultra-safe driving, and then one gets to download Beta FSD???
Or is it an indeterminate length of time???

Nobody knows. Better to be safe - so everyone is driving carefully till next week.

 

[pchilds]

Nobody knows. Better to be safe - so everyone is driving carefully till next week.

Everyday my score drops a point, by the time they start letting people in, I'll be in the 80s.

 

[DreamBurn]

Wow. If I were Elon, I'd comb this thread for whiners and exclude them. Jeez.

 

[Tundrok]

Wow. If I were Elon, I'd comb this thread for whiners and exclude them. Jeez.

Certainly sounds like something petty enough for him to do. God forbid people criticize the ever continuing dumpster fire that has been FSD promises.

 

[Sporty]

Wow. If I were Elon, I'd comb this thread for whiners and exclude them. Jeez.

Whining about the whining?

 

[EVNow]

Whining about the whining?

Whining about the whining about whining ?

ok. let's stop here.

 

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

Whining about the whining about whining ?

ok. let's stop here.

Why stop when you're on a whining streak?

 

[nvx1977]

pretty sure it's whinging.

 

[sleepydoc]

Whining about the whining about whining ?

ok. let's stop here.

I just find it entertaining how worked up people are getting about the safety score and whether they will get a chance to be a beta tester. It's also funny how personal people take the safety score.

 

[qdeathstar]

I just find it entertaining how worked up people are getting about the safety score and whether they will get a chance to be a beta tester. It's also funny how personal people take the safety score.

i want to get good grades to make Elon proud.

 

[Tacomaman]

I'm frustrated too. The measures/criteria for 'turns' and 'hard braking' seem to be way too sensitive for normal driving, in particular, responding to the traffic situation, e.g., cars moving in front of you and having to turn across lanes with oncoming traffic or turning onto or off of sloped roads which I suspect kicks up the 'g' measure.
It would be really helpful if Tesla provided real-time indicators of each parameter so the driver could correlate his actions and or the situation with any "out-of-tolerance" indicator. In fact, I think that would be a great thing to include in the final FSD version.

 

[Ldub22]

I have been dinged for passing people on the side of the road 5 times. 2 police officers, one tow truck, one parked car, and a dumpster.

Apparently, driving is hazardous!

 

[GlmnAlyAirCar]

I have been dinged for passing people on the side of the road 5 times. 2 police officers, one tow truck, one parked car, and a dumpster.

Apparently, driving is hazardous!

ummm, which statistic would that affect?

 

[alexgr]

So, what is the consensus about the safety score? Will the most recent 7 days only count, or will all days count to get the FSD?

 

[EVNow]

So, what is the consensus about the safety score? Will the most recent 7 days only count, or will all days count to get the FSD?

I guess most are assuming all days.

 

[diplomat33]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1446104772092772352