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    NEMA 14-50 Plug Meltdown / Near Fire

    Yeah, bare solid #6 is not so bad, it's the insulation that leads to trouble because you can't see any cracks in the copper. For a ground wire it's not a big deal because you can inspect it and it's not likely to carry current for a long enough time to overheat anyway. I think bare solid #6 is...
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    NEMA 14-50 Plug Meltdown / Near Fire

    Yeah, pretty sure there's no such thing as solid 6 AWG. I'd expect that to be somewhat fragile and dangerous. Interesting that the 80A Gen 2 Wall Connector advises ferrules, they surely must be legal then, at least for this appliance, but I'd still question the legality of using them on a...
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    NEMA 14-50 is dead - all hail NEMA 6-50

    It's possible that some defect in your charger or outlet could overload the wiring or outlet and start a fire before the 70A breaker intervenes. Of course you could still have a defective charger catch fire on a 50A breaker, but there's nothing the building codes can do about that. NEC can...
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    NEMA 14-50 is dead - all hail NEMA 6-50

    Sub panels do not require incoming breakers, just a breaker in the main. eprosenx is correct that this is a sub panel or "load center" since it includes separate breakers for the 110V/220V circuits, presumably fed by a proper bus bar. I'll disagree with him however on the EV/RV distinction...
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    NEMA 14-50 Plug Meltdown / Near Fire

    You guys are funny, those ferrules are intended to decorate speaker wires! And are amateur-installed ferrules even legal for AWG6 screw terminals? I sure hope not! That's crazy. Anyway, don't stress this. Remember, the other end of that wiring is connected to a cheap $10 breaker with the...
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    Unplugged Performance Superlight Titanium Lug Nut Set

    At least when they strip your car they'll just run off with the nuts instead of taking the whole wheel.
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    Yeah, Tesla's "modernization" of the ordering process is pretty neat. When I ordered my last car about 20 years ago, the VIN and exact delivery date were assigned within hours and the website was immediately updated at every stage of production: In queue, frame, paint, interior, drivetrain...
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    The 1 week delivery option is only for those who happen to be offered someone else's rejected delivery, no one actually slides a new custom order thru the factory that fast. Tesla does have a number of major changes coming soon. They announced an unprecedented (and unpaid) shutdown of the...
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    It's worth noting that Tesla has updated the delivery estimates for new orders: 12 weeks for Performance 3's and Y's 12 weeks for all variants of the S and X They still list standard delivery for the standard 3/Y so it's tough to guess what might be going on. Maybe some major design updates...
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    Politics - Quarantine Thread

    I'd bet that a surge in COVID-19 cases within the Fremont facility has forced Tesla to pull many of the delivery estimates. Not only is the disease spreading faster and wider than ever before but Tesla has consistently been one of California's strongest opponents of workplace safety with Elon...
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    Question on charging with Nema 6-50

    Chances are that everything is connected fine and will work fine as others have said. But anyone who could connect 6 or 8 gauge Romex to a 70A breaker is a F'n moron. You'd be wise to have an electrician clean things up because there may be worse problems in the chain than what you or I are...
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    Do people install 2 NEMA 14-50 outlets in one garage?

    Sure, you can install multiple 14-50's. I have a 200A main with a 50A breaker feeding a subpanel containing (2) 50A breakers for 14-50's and a bunch of 20A breakers for general garage 110V outlets and lights. It's perfectly normal for the breakers in the panel to vastly exceed the capacity of...
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    Master Thread: Definitive 14-50 NEMA Outlet Guide

    Yeah, it's interesting that Tesla's Wall Connector went from 80A down to 48A and their 14-50 Mobile Connector went from 40A down to 32A. Part of that may be that overnight is overnight, so people would prefer to have a longer/thinner cord and cheaper system. But there's surely an aspect to it...
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    Master Thread: Definitive 14-50 NEMA Outlet Guide

    Lol, you guys are so hard on Leviton sockets! Yeah, one guy didn't tighten the screws so great and it melted a little -- that could happen with any brand. Sure, the industrial sockets are better for the reasons I noted above but it's really not that big a deal, we're only pulling 32A from...
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    Master Thread: Definitive 14-50 NEMA Outlet Guide

    Correct, AWG14 is pretty flimsy and definitely limited to 15A. AWG6 is correct for your new installation but it should have a 50A breaker if connected to a 50A outlet or 60A breaker if hard-wired to a wall charger. The purpose of the breaker is to protect the wiring and outlet, not the stuff...
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    1 year of supercharging for delivery of m3/my if delivery before 12/31

    I thought onwheels post was funny, even if no one else did.
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    Master Thread: Definitive 14-50 NEMA Outlet Guide

    Yeah, poking thru the wall for a 14-50 outlet would be cheap and easy. You'd have a 50A breaker and the 20' cord that comes with the car can charge at 32A/7kW when you buy the $35 14-50 adapter. The included adapter is only 115V and only suitable for desperate situations. Or for the same...
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    Tesla removes regenerative braking strength option

    There seem to be some misconceptions here about the efficiency benefits of coasting. First, you can always "coast", regardless of the regen setting. Just hold the pedal in whatever position makes that happen. Unless the car is doing something stupid with the motor to produce heat without...
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    Referral Reward: Forged Performance Wheels

    Yes, 255 is the correct size for a 9" wide wheel. The stock 235 is what the kids call "ghetto". The style is supposed to convey a sense of misguided priorities -- that you blew your entire paycheck on these extra wide wheels because someday you're gonna turn this old thing into a racecar. But...
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    Random people selling repairs on Teslas in parking lots?

    Dealerships generally don't do their own dent/scratch repair, they just hire some mobile repair dude off Craigslist. So it's quite possible that your new friend actually did "work" for Mercedes/Tesla at one point in his life, but if he lacks a card, labeled truck, and realistic pricing, he...
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    Has Tesla ever explained the emergency door handle design choice?

    Weird that everyone keeps bringing up "framed" windows. What do window frames have to do with door handles? And before you answer, Google "car". Click on "advanced search" and choose 1908-2021 as the year range. Anyway, back to door handles. It seems Tesla sought to reduce noise by cinching...
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    Has Tesla ever explained the emergency door handle design choice?

    Ah, I think I might have figured it out. It's not the interior handles that are weird, it's the exterior ones -- they are purely electronic. So the emergency handle is actually the only one with a mechanical connection, the other 2 are just buttons. This saves the cost of a second cable and...
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    Has Tesla ever explained the emergency door handle design choice?

    40 years ago when you pulled on the outside door handle of your Pontiac 7000 or whatever, the window rolled down a little and you got in and drove off. And this magical sophistication wasn't limited to just the exterior door handle, even the interior handle had this amazing ability thanks to...
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    Referral Reward: Forged Performance Wheels

    Is anyone in SoCal looking to sell a set of 34's?