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    2014 1 QTR predictions/results

    what do you mean by that? production is stopping? someone takes a vication?
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    2014 1 QTR predictions/results

    it seems like tesla put aside 1000 cars out of the production in q1 as a transit to europe but what doesn't make sense to me is why 7400? 13 weeks with 600 per week(if not more) gets tesla to 7800! i won't be suprised if it end with tesla selling 6800(6400 estimate + that 400 margin that telsa...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    i have no problem at all that you guys questioning my posts as long as it is in a polite way(and no, i never bought or sold NFLX @FANGO), i'm here as you to get more data and knowledge and to have the best possible trades, after all we're here to make money. it's impossible to have a discussion...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    i think you are in the wrong side, tesla is a momentum stock and the trend is by far bearish. you can always find a positive like oh 134 is very hard resistance and we've had all the bad news already and so on but as much as most of people don't like to hear it, until q4 results tesla will...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    don't take it personally, i'm sure you're a great guy and very skillful but you probably don't have the knowledge in that part. as i said before it's not only the difference in GAAP and non GAAP revenues that makes tesla a losing money company. but leave it a side, we've been there already and...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    you miss the point of the article, it's not about lower demand or whatsoever. the problem is not the book but it's cover - - - Updated - - - sorry mario i've tried to explain it to you once but you are stubborn to understand/don't have the knowledge and i'm not going to try again.
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    bloomberg article is spot on and saying what i've said after the q3 earning when dumping my shares. it's easy to cook the books and fool people who are not familiar with accounting. tesla is still losing money and prefered to represent it as they've turned it around, BS! suddenly i ear more and...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    http://www.streetinsider.com/Trader+Talk/Chatter+about+a+fire+at+a+Tesla+%28TSLA%29+factory/8882141.html?si_client=intbro now the factory is on fire?
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    no i don't think tesla will have 100% loss from the lease accounting and the market don't care what i think. as i said about the market and what i think, same is for you, the market don't cares what you think. the difference between the GAAP and non GAAP is not only based on the lease...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    you better hit the deck, you are a missiles target now. - - - Updated - - - again you're trying to predict the future, that's why GAAP exist to prevent those sort of colossal mistakes. when the ceo can't give you a forecast for 2014 you try to predict 2016? and people expects smart money to...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    the positive cash flow can come from lots of things who's not related to core business and is not relevant(the company doesn't give details about that). the 800$ Mill in tesla pocket is from people who bought their shares and from bonds issuing and not from profit they create. don't get me...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    i agree that you have to spend in order to gain and it's normal and fine but it's still won't change the bottom line which is that tesla is still losing money BTW leave tesla aside, you never know if the R&D invesment is real or not. some companies cooking their books. in tesla case it can be...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    really? you can't lose money and have a positive cash flow? PMSL i guess you are not familiar with accounting magics 0.12$ profit is like the rest of wall street which is a lie on a non gaap basis. tesla lost 0.32$(if i remember correctly) wrong, analysts expected more than 5500 and some of...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    i consider oversold below 20 and not 30(as the orthodox do) so unless i'm missing something... on what time frame are you looking?
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    on the contrary, i just don't want other people to lose so i'm sharing my experience. technically speaking tesla is not in an oversold area, one thing we can say is that previously 133 was a big resistance so above it suppose to be support, that's it. all the cars fire stories is a complete joke...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    my comment is not directed to you and you know that!
  17. R

    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    i'm not changing my mind at all, i still think tesla is a great company with bright future but i can't stand that every hour someone is shouting buying opportunity, buy buy buy. from 180 all the way to 130 we had someone who say buying opportunity, and guess waht? people here lost lot's of...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    so i have no clue cause you said so right? company at a discount? company who loses money, selling barely 5500 cars, have a value of 1/3 of GM with lots of constraints on the way and just had 500% rise less than a year? i wonder what is expensive by your standards. it's easy for you to say it's...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    correct and that's something to remember that any recovery will be short lived as the mid term is bearish
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    the only chance for tesla to go up in the near future is by closing short positions, i can't see a deep pocket(funds, ETF etc) buying tesla right now.
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    unless the euro will crush today, you will see tesla below 100€. losing 128$ will open the door to 115$!
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    guys you need to stop using the term "it's a good buying opportunity". it only cause a damage to peoples who have small knowledge and tighter breathing space. it's never a good buying time when a stock is crashing, you never know where it gonna stop not to mention moving upward. unless you know...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    you don't expect a serious answer to that right? nobody knows what will happen. i just tried to explain the short issue fear that people on this board have. price is set by lots of factors and not just short positions opening.
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    usually it works the other way. the big players already have their short position in place as they borrow the stocks before triggering their move, unlike us the small players who needs to wait for the breaker circuit to end.
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    my position started from 172, if i think the stock will go to at least 134 if not more than that, why would i need to take the hit all the way down? i will be looking to get back to tesla but not willing to pay premium for that luxury
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    with all the respect to tesla when i think the share won't go up not to mention go down i'm selling, elon won't compensate me for my losses and i leave emotions out of the way. sorry for not being patriot today
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    i closed my long position taking a big beat. can't see us surviving the selling pressure
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    we need to get above 161 and fast, the bears won't stop the pressure until then
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    153-161 that's were bulls and bears even, above and we can trim a nice chunk of yesterday loss below that we keep south
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    here comes GS http://www.streetinsider.com/Analyst+Comments/Goldman+Sachs+Comments+on+Tesla+%28TSLA%29+Post-Earnings+Decline%3B+Boosts+PT+to+%24104/8852071.html?si_client=intbro
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    we were at 156.8 when cc started(and even 155 before) so the factory issue got nothing to do with the price tank
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    Nov 6 (Reuters) - Tesla Motors Inc <TSLA.O>: * JP Morgan raises target price to $97 from $93; rating neutral
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    no mate, it's a news wire from IB. you'll get articles about that later today, don't worry.
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    Nov 6 (Reuters) - Tesla Motors Inc <TSLA.O>: * Morgan Stanley raises price target to $153 from $149; rating overweight
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    does it matter? you won't be able to squeeze a question, only bankers and analyst will get the chance
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    you are delusional. 10%+ after cc? i'm holding stocks agains calls i've sold and i'll pray for 170 this week. the way it looks after hours we need to hold the 15X today
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    like facebook the q4 outlook is missing expectation causing the drop DETROIT, Nov 5 (Reuters) - Tesla Motors Inc <TSLA.O> reported on Tuesday a stronger-than-expected, third-quarter profit, but offered a fourth-quarter outlook that fell short of Wall Street estimates and the company's shares...
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    results is OK the market is overreacting to the negative for some reason
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    expectation is already in place no matter the price we close today.
  40. R

    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    sorry can't understand you guys, you have long position and you want the stock to go down? that's nonsense who cares what happen in Q1 and Q2 results before or after, just explode up. before, after during just go up, who cares why and when! is it some sort of superstition?
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    the rising from 15X few days ago to 180 today.
  42. R

    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    correct, but yet you can see the trend today, which is to sell on every rise, that's not a weak longs tactics(semantic or not)
  43. R

    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    it looks more and more like a bull trap, finger crossed for bombastic results
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    weak long won't knock the share down, they want to get the highest price for their shares. it's totaly bears act
  45. R

    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    bears are in total control today, every attempt to get our nose above water ends in a knock downward
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    expectation is for EPS and Revenue not share price . if it worked the way you think it should than amazon would disappoint every earning
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    i don't get your logic, it's much easier to break 200$ if you start post earning on 180+ then 174 i rather you being not comfortable and we get to 180+ today though i don't see it happen
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    Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

    put aside earning today, it doesn't look good. i hope it won't go below 170 today, it will kill all work made in the last couple of days
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    facebook earning as a lesson for upcoming tesla earnings

    getting to 180 after earning will give buyers nothing especially those who paid double digit. the best thing in my opinion and you can see it today with facebook is to buy the share and sale calls.