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    vandalism of tesla

    Many people hate Teslas. Some of these people are criminally antisocial. When the two come together sins/crimes like this are committed. I'm sad to hear your car, which you doubly treasure, was damaged. As I understand it Teslas are hard to get body work repairs done, but I bet in your area not...
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    What are your fun and exciting hobbies?

    Congratulations on the early retirement!
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    What are your fun and exciting hobbies?

    I'm an endurance cyclist, a commercially rated pilot, I ride motorcycles all over the country and I take the best loving care I can of my family :-)
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    And again Tesla bashing

    Well, one thing we have in common is I like your DRZ. I had one for about 5 years and sold it 2 years ago when I started to get out of ADV riding. Good bike. Your wife seems like a nice lady. I'm glad she enjoys her car.
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    And again Tesla bashing

    It is possible that ignorance factors in with some people’s decision to be anti-EV, but that does not apply to me. I am a very knowledgeable, well read, lifelong motoring enthusiast, and I understand the automotive industry very well. I would actually say that in all likelihood I know more...
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    And again Tesla bashing

    I respect and sympathize with your situation but I'd like to interject some information from the other side of the aisle that may be helpful. Please take this in the context of a person who views EV's in general and Tesla in particular very differently than you. I am a recovering Hater. I am...
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    We took delivery of our new M4GT3

    I've been following your website. Fascinating sport and immense and impressive engineering. Interesting how BMW uses the Six for its race cars. Reminds me of the original M1 in the 70's. Back when Mercedes, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston etc. were using V8's and V12's it struck me as off that BMW...
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    We took delivery of our new M4GT3

    Amazing piece of engineering. Looks like magnificent but expensive fun. Enjoy and I wish you success.
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    IMHO Stephen Hawking is a poor choice as a fountain of wisdom. Although I appreciate his scientific knowledge and his ablilty to overcome serious medical adversity, his character left much to be desired and his failure to recognize the hand of God in Creation, or even God Himself disqualifies...
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    To quote from Hamlet: ' ‘There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy’
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    I'd be happy to have that beer with you Beasts. I also remember a time in history when people talked. People and their opinions are more complex than can be inferred reading a few on line posts.
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    I'm going to be in San Diego and SLO for a few days each next week for a medical conference and real estate shopping. There are no Tesla outlets in my area of Washington. I'd like to test drive one or two when I'm down there. Was thinking a Model S and a Model Y. I've driven the S and a 3...
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    You all have softened my opinion about Teslas a lot. You have been helpful to me.
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    I see your point, Gus. I also have no children, but I do have a soon to be step daughter who I love. I'm sure the earth will be here as long as she is. Like our parents likely would have said about us, she is resilient, she will survive.
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    Thanks for your thoughtful message. Predictably, its more complicated. I am an avid outdoorsman who enjoys God's Creation and sees Him in His Creation. I camp, hike, cycle and paddle all over the country and appreciate a clear cold stream and warm sunshine on my face and the cold clean air on...
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    No question he is an awesome businessman. I'm not sure how much of an engineer or a humanitarian he is based on his actions but I respect his ablilty to build a company and make a lot of cars and a lot of money for a lot of people. Indeed, despite my feeling for the man, he is helping build my...
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    Stage 5 Progress slow but reached acceptable levels. Thanks partially to your help and others here. Smart financial move. I'm sure daughter would agree ;-)
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    Valid point, neither have I.
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    That would explain all the degrees on my wall for everything from my post doctorate education at Yale and Stanford to my FAA certification to fly complex and high performance airplanes, a commercial pilot rating, and training to fly in instrument conditions without outside references. I can't...
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    Thanks for your thoughtful reply, Slug. I don't see the indication for CBT in my case. Just as I don't take a pill for a headache or other sundry pain or problem, rather deal with it and make it go away or wait for it to resolve on it own. This issue fits into that category, and my management...
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    Nope. Never hurt anything or anyone.
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    My contempt for Musk is absolute and complete, but I am able to give him credit where it is due. His marketing of the electric car was excellent, as manifested by Tesla's obvious success in their segment, which for all practical purposes they created. Tesla took the snob appeal of the early...
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    Good morning NW driver, from a fellow NW driver :) Out of respect for the rules of the forum which I believe discourage dissenting opinions to anthropomorphic global warming I'll not reply here but you are welcome to PM me if you wish. I'll only say that there are many highly educated...
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    K5TRX, Thanks for taking the time for such a thoughtful reply. Some of the positives you mention will be a partial compensation to me when I buy my next car, which will likely be in 7-10 years, and will likely be electric. By then I hope that some of the automakers I favor (MB, BMW...
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    Non Tesla luxury/performance EV's

    I have test driven 2 Teslas. An S and a Model 3 Performance. I liked the S somewhat, but I think the price is too high for what you get. I had issues with the quality defects in fit finish and paint that we all read about in the automotive publications and websites. As I understand it, the...
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    Non Tesla luxury/performance EV's

    I recognize that the writing is on the wall for automobile enthusiasts top be forced into EV's. I'm against it but I'm also realistic so I think about what I may want to drive in the future. I currently own and drive an S-Class Mercedes Benz, and quite a few other trucks and motorcycles. This...
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    I can see the case where gas is very expensive to use an electric car. In such cases the advantages may outweigh the disadvantages for many people. Unfortunately, this is exactly what the current leadership in the US is doing. Driving up the prices of gas to try to push people to follow their...
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    Earl, Ever see the South Park episode about Priuses, (Prii?) Smug? I'm not a fan of the program but someone showed that episode to me. Very funny. I also agree with you. Some of the anti-Prius animosity is projected onto the Tesla, which many people view as the new Prius. I thought other EV's...
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    Probably, but I am most assuredly a 'have'. As far as the stocks go, I am in an unusual position. I successfully made a lot money shorting TSLA early in the game. When I saw that was no longer viable I bought TSLA. Big time. I did this for two reasons. One, I like to make money (I'm funny...
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    Speaking for my self it's not a Ford vs Chevy or MB vs. BMW thing. Its a unique phenomenon, unlike any animosity I've previously experienced and defies logic. When Priuses came out I didn't like them (still don't much although I recognize they are very good cars) but I never felt anything...
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    Well done on your part. I could see that escalating to the point of violence pretty easily. In some situations, lethal force. Your action prevented all that. I was road raged by a very angry male and female unit in a diesel Dodge while I was training on my bicycle in the nearby desert. Out...
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    Before Tesla it was a problem Prius drivers dealt with, I suppose for the same 'reasons' Thanks for taking the time to ask. I appreciated the interaction. Some of it is irrational anger/fear. I have patients who are highly educated, religious, successful and have excellent lives. Every now...
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    So sorry to hear that. No one deserves that. No reason to sell the car of course. There will always be hate. I suspect less and less however. As I have discovered maintain a high level of hate requires immense energy and is self depleting and a person has to seek better ways to use that energy...
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    Tesla hate?!?

    Oh my that's lovely.:)
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    Tesla hate?!?

    My S Class is also a 550. I wouldn’t call it over engineered but it certainly is thoroughly engineered. You know the Germans…. One of my dream cars is a 1970s 450 SL. If I could find one in a beautiful root beer brown with a tan leather interior. One of my dream cars.
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    Tesla hate?!?

    I see your point exactly, ZilWin. Nice to meet you. As I mentioned in a thread I started last June I recognize that EV's have some advantages over regular cars and that I will likely wind up in one someday. I hope to keep my S Class Benz about 10 years and make the change at that point. I'm...
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    Tesla hate?!?

    As I said, just speculation. I've been to WV multiple times and its a beautiful state but historically dedicated to coal mining and traditional conservative values. I personally like knowing that the stereotype is getting outdated. One of the reasons my instincts are so anti-EV/anti-Tesla is...
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    I bought a Range Rover. Buh-bye!

    That interior is very beautiful.
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    Tesla hate?!?

    As an anti-EV person I can contribute to the above observations. There is no reason a homeowner will want to pay for someone else's transportation costs, especially if the profit margin is already thin. They may also be concerned about fire risk and loss of life and property, especially if...
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    Another thing that I may have in common with Tesla drivers, and EV drivers in general, is that I have also been road raged against by diesel pick up trucks. I am a avid bicyclist, and competitive in endurance cycling. Therefore I am out on the bicycle a lot, and I train in a rural area...
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    I am also vegetarian, so that is a “cult” that we share. I see that you live in Angwin. Nice town. I used to fly there quite a bit when I lived in that area of California. Are you Adventist? I agree with many of the advantages that you stated about electric cars. As for gorgeous, beauty is...
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    Fascinating. Its interesting to see that there are people like me whose personality based aversion to Teslas specifically outweighs their aversion to electric cars per se.
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    I am very interested to hear about how you feel about the Mach E. The most controversially named vehicle in history.
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    God bless you also Lucas. I had a 65 with a 289 back in college. It was just an old car at the time. It’s #1 on the list of cars I wish I never sold.
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    I respect Texas. TX has some strong advantages over CA which is why it is the landing zone of the majority of people fleeing CA. Ideologically its principles line up well with mine but I prefer California for other reasons. Still TX is still on my list of possibilities. :)
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    I'm sorry and interested to hear about your leaving California. The good news is selling a house in San Carlos and moving to another state the world is your oyster. You can buy something nice pretty much anywhere with retirement money left over, I would imagine. I'm a Californian living in...
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    A sincere effort from a hater to adapt to living in a world with Teslas

    My S Class is also the first automatic car I have owned, other than flips I worked on in my younger years to help pay for college and medical school. You have had some interesting cars, Altes. :) I am not moved by tech other than what helps the car perform. Indeed I'm turned off by screens...