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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Like what? It can’t be anything significant bc that is walled off. Like getting ready for impending recall notices maybe, l such as the famous 4/15 one. I’ve never heard of a single instance of an SA leaking anything that hadn’t already been a rumor. Leaks are severely combated on Reddit. RIP...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Like a cheetah, I guess. I couldn’t figure it for the week I had my car before it went to service. I ended up with a lot of brake dust on my doors, and some onlookers, trying to test this out in the industrial area of San Francisco. Picking up car today. Rear quarter panel had to be entirely...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Let us all never forget rules 1-3 with SAs: they only know what’s on the public website. If they try to share more, they are making it up, just like the SA in North Bay 500 pages ago who claimed matrix headlights should be coming soon bc he swears he saw them being tested. Even if true, I saw...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Don’t fall for it! Pay upon exterior inspection. Keep payment as cash until the last minute if you are financing. They are too busy to notice. Most people there have only worked there for weeks. I was handed my key cards before I even paid or signed ppwk bc of my speaker issue that I got to...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    The hair pony. Flying to get his car. Trying to take this seriously. It’s effed up, but dude would have his car in April with no effort. @sorka seriously, stop watching every YouTube video. You’re so close!
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Nope, just show up early and be casually super interested in one specific car. You likely won’t be let into the interior, but much can be inspected by looking in. Build quality has really improved recently, so don’t stress too much. You have a discerning eye from all your posts. If built in...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    I really want you to get your car man, but I still don’t understand why you didn’t push back on them canceling your order. At a minimum, you’re out $2K, and you’re waiting longer. I’m strangely curious about what you said to the SA because I have to imagine it was a pretty strong threat about...
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    LR vs Plaid differences

    Yes. Also, remember plaid times are with rollout, as with 3/YP. Summer tires are main difference. Downgrade beyond subjective appearance imo.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    On the main screen, yup, and round-trip estimate.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Your question was answered earlier, but wanted to confirm that Tesla closed the loop hole on adding and removing FSD to speed up delivery. There’s a Reddit thread on it. Sure it’s margins, but I also take it as indication that Elon continually raising the pricing while simultaneously claiming...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    510-249-3500 / Vehicles/ New Deliveries / Response: "build order date" I wouldn’t bother calling until you have a VIN, though.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Catching a plane, but I’ll try to write a proper post tonight. Short story: build quality has improved dramatically on these. Much quieter than my 169xx VIN Model 3, and suspension is fantastic. The only thing that kills me is I have EAP on my 3 and losing auto-lane change combined with the...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    My theory is they gave up on trying to push Xs in CA recently bc so low volume, and the car is still constantly changing. The fact that my EDD with VIN moved out to April, and Fremont is only focusing on delivering 3/Ys is a new thing. When Fremont said mgmt was being lenient with holds past...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Zero difference? Fair enough. My post was a sht post, my bad. Kids got to me at the end of the day.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Says the guy from New Hampshire. Went to undergrad there, and it’s beautiful, but no overpasses and few semis. I don’t mean to be dismissive, but did that MY have radar? It’s actually not bad now on radar, but it took 4 years, and the switch to vision scares me of reversion to 4 years ago. You...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    LOL EDD just got pushed back in the last 10 mins from 3/23-3/29 to 3/27-4/6. I think this actually reduces my stress a little because I don't have to worry about rushing over tomorrow. We'll see what happens while I'm traveling through 4/3.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Likewise Bruce! I doubt I’ll get by tomorrow, but we’ll see what happens for me. I’m more concerned about losing my VIN. My suspicion with your car is they either needed to replace a part that’s taking time during QA or they didn’t want to deal with X Bay Area deliveries until EOQ. They will...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Update from calling # again is my car was finished being built today, so 2 days from VIN to built. Interestingly, they are pushing me to the Sunnyvale delivery center, who will go through the QA process, instead of factory, who is focusing on 3/Y deliveries. This adds a delay, but the guy I...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    It’s tough, but breathe, my guys. I ordered pre-refresh at the same time and got a VIN w/o FSD. I am not alone. You will get your cars in April, and I likely will too. The real ramp is Q2. Try to embrace the positive vibes recently. This is good for all. Your time will come shortly.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    For those that are concerned, just magically go on long vacation when you get a delivery window. During EOQ push, someone else will be happy to take your VIN. You can put your order on hold.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    I would wait until the last minute to actually get insurance, like the night before. Fremont even told me that, and it doesn't affect your delivery time. You never know if the VIN snatcher might show up.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    For the antsy ones like I am, I called Fremont, where I'm taking delivery, and they said the car still hasn't finished being built. That can at least give you a sense of build dates, but VINs are not truly sequential anyway. 510-249-3500 / Vehicles/ New Deliveries / Response: "build order...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    As I said, to the exact day. Be patient, you SF/LA folks. VIN 7SAXCBE56NF3366XX
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    All focus is on getting video games to the backseat for the kids that we’ll all need to hear until they patch bluetooth when Witcher 4 arrives.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    They forced me to take or cancel my release-night MY order by 12/31/21. I’m not caught up on posts today re: what Sawyer Merrit said, but my intuition is this is another way to push early orders further back. Even if SAs say it won’t impact your place in line, I would be very skeptical. Don’t...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Quoting myself again. For those on mobile, I ordered a LRX 6-seater 1/16/21 pre-refresh. I got my fourth date range of 3/22-4/12 after this week's text and reverting to July the prior 3x, but it seems to be holding, unlike many who have moved back. @jbrowdy, keep the faith, especially because...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Yes, this is the reason, but Elon lives in an echo chamber and has misled at minimum, perhaps unwittingly because he hired many yes-men during critical stages of what he believed was vertical integration of FSD, every step of the way after AP1. Much of this could've been avoided if Tesla paid...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Got text. No FSD. Guessing close proximity to Bay Area or LA.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Tank is right, but if we’re going to split hairs/worms (ha ha), depending on your build date, you might be missing the ability to push the the center of the yolk to engage the horn. November builds and newer will have that ability with a software update. Take the car. So, @TallBill might miss...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    The misunderstandings about BEVs is hard to fathom when you’re on this forum. The only reason SAs knows nothing about EDDs is bc Elon’s underlings tell them nothing until release etc. is imminent. It’s intentional. If they told you Matrix headlights were coming in July, what good does that do...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    You can just say you don’t believe him. Are you going to turn down delivery bc of some silly shhh? Ask him where his stalks are.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    I’m going to quote myself to remind others to keep the faith. I woke up to July for the third time, and it’s happening to others. 3 dates ranges and 3x July in the last month. I still expect a VIN before the end of the month. The back-and-forth is a good thing for Tesla. It’s almost like we’re...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    What did I tell y'all earlier about your F5 key? Remove it from the keyboard!
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    In the next 10 days, VINs will rain here in CA.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    A Model Y was delivered in the last week without its seat rails attached. That’s why it’s on the checklist. Green is only digging up stuff from other car forums years ago in the pic to show that Tesla is not alone with QA issues. I will find the scrawny dude at the delivery center to do the...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Excited for you JD! As with anything Tesla, temper expectations though. I’ve had 3 date ranges and two “July” in the last month. Because you’re in the Midwest, though, I agree with @Johnny Mac that it’s real and your car is on the way. I also believe mine is real this time, but like @bmah, I’m...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    You can completely ignore the check digit. It’s to check the validity of the VIN, also used with physical bank checks. Less overtly, it can also serve as an anti-fraud mechanism, again to check for validity. There’s some math behind the number, which you can Google if bored, but after doing the...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Your reply made a lot more sense when I got to the part about you already having a Model X.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Try hard to ignore the EDDs. The fact that it’s bouncing around and out to July seems to be a good thing. You’ll get a new date range soon that will stick. They seem to be in a LR run now, so looks like you might have to wait until April latest. Ignore Tesla and EDDs. It will be easier to keep...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    You’ve thought longer about this than anyone there, soooo no way. Remember that several original 6-seater, 2020 orders got their cars in the December push. It’s all about where you are and the trucks are going during that push. There aren’t many of us pre-refresh orders. They can afford to...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Just wanted to chime in to say I’m excited to see the vibrant energy and uptick in positive vibes recently here as many have received date ranges, VINs, and cars recently. For all the 5/7 seaters, international orders, and those disappointed about the somewhat non-chronological VIN assignments...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    This. 1.16.21 order. Fremont delivery. Got a date range of 3/9-3/31 last night, my second time before going back to July. I believe it this time after watching others out East getting them. Funny bc I’m in the middle of a burnout retreat outside San Diego and, for the first time, I felt no...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    I don’t have one, but they generally just tell you to do a BMS recalibration. Charge to mid 90s and drain below 10. Cold snap could also be screwing with things, especially if you start with a cold-soaked battery. I often gain a couple % on those frosty days while charging and it sometimes will...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    You sold your second order to Chancellor who then sold his original order. You have no right to complain. Edit: TBC you’ve already had VIN. No sympathy.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Epic post lol. Depends who you ask on cost savings though. Elon's eyes lead to a lot child support.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    How do Indiana's highways compare to California's or other more congested states' highways? Overpasses on top of overpasses? Never gone 65 to 45 in a split-second because of a tree's shadow or overpass? We do have more plastic people per capita here, so maybe it'll save lives.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Okay, I said I would revert to lurker again, but how can I not give you a huge thanks for digging into this? I don’t care what they say, but you’re a stud ;) I told my SA I’d stop bothering him, and I’ll honor that, because he knows less than I and can’t do anything. He has a 5-seater customer...