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If I had a terminator that I could send back in time, I would have sent it to kill the pregnant mother of the guy who founded LG.

The Panasonic 9.7 The LG 11.2

This is with 0.9% downward slope. He later posted another run with less downward slope (-0.16%) that gave 9 sec.

I want to explain what I did here to compare the performance of the LG and Panasonic variants of the new M3P: (the actual analysis is in the image attached below). From YouTube, I took two different 0-180kph runs for the LG variant, and two different such runs for the Panasonic variant. So...

From the LR, yes. From the previous generation Panasonic m3p, not necessarily. From what I saw until now, the 24' m3p LG is slightly *slower* than the older 23' m3p panasonic, between 60-100mph. The 24' m3p LG is faster beyond 100mph (where it doesn't really matter apart from Germany).

It could be that the Panasonic variant is 600hp and the LG variant is 460hp. This is more inline with the test results. I would see why Tesla would lie to hide this difference, in order to allow sales internationally.

Where are you getting this information from? I never heard this 555/580hp figure from anyone. Lars Moravy who designed the new m3p said on video that there is a 50hp power difference between the LG and Panasonic variants. Moreover, a 555/580hp makes the difference only 4.5%, and there is no...

You are right. A professional Thai sport driver tested the new m3p (LG) on the track, and compared the times to more than 100 performance cars. There were two different loops, a short one (with lots of turns and no ability to reach very high speed) and a long loop. On the short loop, the new...

The bottleneck of the new m3p is *not* the motors. Not at all. The motors are capable of producing a whopping 620 hp (!!) on a lightweight 1840kg car - a killer combo. Problem: The primitive, ill designed LG battery can only supply 460 hp and the Panasonic can supply 510. So even the USA battery...

No, it's also for the UK version, but for the UK version, the added torque + power relates to the older LG version (which was significantly slower above 60mph than the older Panasonic version).

The 0-100kph is not different between both versions of the car because you need less than 460hp below 100kph, the decisive factor below 100kph is torque, and the torque of the LG is just slightly lower than the Panasonic version of the car. Above 100kph, hp becomes as limiting factor, quick...

I did some calculations, and a 0.2 second difference in 1/8 mile and 0.4 seconds in 1/4 mile are too big of a difference to be explained by the jump from 460hp to 510. That's only a 10% difference in hp. For example, the average g force of the Panasonic version between 60 to 100mph (3.8 sec) is...

The real track, perfectly horizontal, was also with a dragy, and showed lesser results, so I don't see your point why we should "trust" the one with the slope...

I don't care that it's "valid", it has a downward slope. We already have a measurement of the Panasonic version on a real track, so no need for such amateur thing. The LG also need a professional measurement...

If you look carefully, the road he used curves to the right. Moreover the ride seems pretty bumpy. It doesn't look good, but not all may be lost. We need a proper measurement.

This is quantification from video using video edit software, so there could be a few ms error here and there.

So, I'm adding comparison between new M3P vs old M3P vs MSLR 2021.

The logic wasn't sound after all :) but it still doesn't mean the new m3p won't beat the MSLR in 1/4 mile...

I would divide the 60-130mph to two areas: 1. 60-100mph 2. 100-130mph The performance in #1 is relevant daily on the streets. The performance in #2 is relevant only on the track, or when someone really wants to lose his license for a very long time. The performance in #1 could be much better...

Why do you care so much about 130mph? Unless you are at the track, performance stops to matter at about 100-110mph, and up to there the new m3p might be better than MSLR.

10.99 @ 120? Have you seen the video I've posted: 10.18 @ 120 (or are you talking about the quarter mile?). The only thing that can invalidate this measurement is if the road was a downward slope... Hard to say for sure, but doesn't look like it.

The way I calculate: The old m3p did 1/4 mile in 11.5 seconds (the numbers in the video I've posted were taken from such a 11.5 seconds run). The new m3p is 1.1 seconds faster at 100mph than the old one, and the difference becomes only bigger as speed grows. 1/4 mile for sure will arrive after...

I timed the new m3p acceleration with a video editing software, and compared the times in a table to the old m3p. The differences above 60mph are dramatic. This new m3p should leave dust to the Model S long range in a 1/4 mile run.

First 1/4 mile measurement in the world for the new 2024 m3p: Seems faster than Model S long (if you take into account the slow 0-60mph, sometimes reduce 1.2 seconds from the 1/4 mile)

By saying arguments like: "this new Model 3 performance has a very strong pull above 60-70mph, unlike the older version". Such assertions could be said mainly because of that extra 50hp that the USA version has.

It's very sad for me to see that you are accepting this behavior in any way. This is deception. Tesla should at least allow the customers to get their order-money back.

Do you think Tesla purposely tried to deceive customers outside of the USA today, with the Model 3 performance announcement? All of the test-drive reviews being published today about the new Model 3 Performance, that are raving about performance at higher speeds (in comparison to old P version)...

All of the test-drive reviews being published today about the new Model 3 Performance, that are raving about performance at higher speeds (in comparison to old P version) were all tested in the USA using USA-built Model 3 performance. According to Tesla website, cars manufactured in the USA...

Yes, the sate of charge was exactly 71% for both cars. Moreover, both of these models were LFP, where state of charge has negligible effect on performance. Interesting... Both of the cars were LFP...

Tesla advertises the 0-100 km/h acceleration time of the 2021 SR model as 5.6 seconds, while the 2022 RWD as 6.1 seconds. This is a graph that someone sent me, where someone measured the torque during acceleration of the 3D7 motor (the one used in 2022 RWD) - in gray color, against the 3D1...

I'm interested to know at what temps the BMS start to cool the LFP battery inside the model 3. Bjorn Nyland captured this information using Scan My Tesla with OBD: Can you please explain the following: 1. What is "PT" ? 2. Is "bat" = battery? 3. How is passive cooling accomplished? 4. Just to...