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Whelp, to answer my initial question that started this thread, it appears the answer is yes!!

I'm thinking hopefully the next update? 12.4. With NNs updates are supposed to be every couple of weeks. That's if we get it at all. I don't have faith in Rohan's tweet.

Optimism that we are getting it is fine but without a timeframe, it's meaningless. Are we going to wait a year? Are we going to wait until they retrofit 120,000 cars with cabin cameras? I take some encouragement from Rohans tweet, but not much when he says he's not going to speculate about a...

Yeah, that number seemed incredibly bullshit to me.

I do struggle with the screen as well. I have a condition called Erbs palsy and I can't extend my right arm greater than 75 degree. I do the best I can with voice commands but mostly prepare before I start driving so screen touch is minimal. When I do need to touch the screen, I have to teach...

Enjoy the Ioniq FSD. I had an EV6 before I decided to go with Tesla. There is no comparison or real competition. No one else is even attempting FSD. They are just waiting until Tesla perfects and decides to licence to every other manufacturer in the world.

No... Because he was vague and said very little.

Why not believe him? He really didn't need to say anything. If we are really less than 3% they would have nothing to lose by screwing us. They know we'll eventually cave and buy another Tesla anyway because there really is no competition to their product.

I would like 35-50% discount on a new S/X with trade in of a legacy vehicle.

We do not. We have a beta. We were promised FSD....and noe it's here

Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

It's pretty wide as hell about now and not a single portrait screen vehicle has gotten it...so who know? Tesla, as usual, says nothing.

What is FW and what source do you get this info? I am legit dying for info, but have no idea where or how to get it. I check Teslascope and Teslafi. Are there other sources? Getting very frustrated that not a single Legacy vehicle has seen this build.

Good question.

Read his post again. He said 10% of ALL CARS have FSD 12. That is just about all Teslas with FSD (400,000 out of over four million Teslas on the road is 10%) save Legacy vehicles.

What's speculation? The fact that the build has gone wide and not a single legacy vehicle has gotten it? No, those are facts.

Updated to what?

10% of Tesla's on the road are pretty much the entire FSD fleet with the exception of legacy vehicles. V 12 has gone wide.

Dunno, I see no realeases on the 2024 branch...so I don't think it's just Legacy vehicles being shafted. I feel it's a tad bit paranoid to say we may never see it...but it does stink to high hell that Legacy vehicles were moved to the 2024 branch just weeks before the wide release. This was...

Biased in what way? Preferential distribution of builds? I don't think so. They may be biased in some ways but as far as this topic they seem to be a pretty fair representation of builds distribution. Do you think subscribers to Teslafi get updates quicker than the general population? Don't...

You do realize that Teslafi covers a very small portion of FSD subscribers (less than 10%), so if they are showing 1200 plus the number of actual users is several thousand.

Try again buddy. Teslafi shows thousands.

It went wide...and legacy vehicles are getting nothing : (

New to this forum. I was totally disheartened when I found out that the update I received for my 2020S just a few weeks ago (2024.2.7) meant I could not get FSD V12. Very disappointing. I've heard speculation that this was done because my vehicle doesn't have an internal camera and Tesla is...

No, no it's not.

I was very excited to see this thread. I'm interested in buying a 3 but sat in it and the seats made it outside of realm of possibility. It was like knives in the middle of my thighs. I love the idea of the mod; but I'm just a bit reluctant to plunk down 50 grand for a car I will need to perform...