New to this forum. I was totally disheartened when I found out that the update I received for my 2020S just a few weeks ago (2024.2.7) meant I could not get FSD V12. Very disappointing. I've heard speculation that this was done because my vehicle doesn't have an internal camera and Tesla is concerned about their ability to monitor drivers. Is there any further information on this? I find FSD 11 very erratic but I'm on no position to buy a new car. As usual, Tesla is saying nothing on the matter.
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Will legacy ever see V12?
- Thread starter brykster
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It seems strange that they would keep non cabin camera cars on the unsafer versions of fsd. I hope this is all hearsay...
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What's speculation? The fact that the build has gone wide and not a single legacy vehicle has gotten it? No, those are facts.
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Well, when I posted very little had rolled out to anyone. But the speculation is it’s related to internal cameras. It could be anything.
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Legacy prob won’t ever see functional student driving
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Cheburashka
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What's so special about v12 that it needs the selfie camera that bigly?
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SilverString
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Seem likely it is a cabin camera issue. There are M3's the same age that are receiving it. I seem to remember some posts about a cabin camera being difficult to add in the Legacy cars. Not really sure though. Gonna be a lot of angry customers if they don't find a solution. Those will be the same people with older cars possibly considering another vehicle soon too... if I don't get upgraded somehow I can say for sure it will affect my next purchase decision.
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Cheburashka
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Yeah because there are A LOT more M3 out there than MS, so it would make sense that Tesla prioritize that platform like they always have.
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The S sales are what helped them get all of those 3 sales. People on HW3 cars without in cabin cameras should get FSD. My car as an example has FSD purchased, many others have the same. In 2020 the package was only 7k, the entire reason it was this price is because " get it early or else ". To claim the " or else " is never coming, but thanks for the initial purchase would be disastrous I'd think, no?
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vcor
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It may be more about the NTHSA and/or other safety issues. I thought NTHSA was unhappy with automakers using the steering wheel torque as a confirmation of paying attention, whereas a cabin camera is presumed to do a better job. I don't agree with this myself, but that may be what is behind it. If so, it may mean Tesla will have to install a cabin camera in older cars, similar to the upgrade of cameras and AP processors that was done with 2016-2017 era cars.
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My thoughts too, I can't imagine they would stop the upgrade path on HW3 cars because of a lack of in cabin camera, this would likely violate anti trust laws.
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I doubt they wont release it or im sure they will have some lawsuit on their hand. We were all promised FSD and we paid for it ages ago.
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We bought it and we have it. It's just capped at the far more dangerous v11.
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SilverString
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No doubt. This becomes very evident when you start to scroll through vehicle upgrades on TeslaFi.
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