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I just got confirmation from Tesla that my Y LR, which I believe was first on GLOVIS SUPREME and then on HORIZON HIGHWAY, is now on the dock in Zeebrugge. It has a manufacturing date of September 27, which is about what I suspected. I hope it will be loaded on to AUTO ACHIEVE who is scheduled to...

Mr Miserable have been writing about Tesla having a harder time than before to get the ships they need, so I guess they just had to take what was available even though it doesn't seem optimal. I don't think they would have had cars sitting in Barcelona for 2 weeks and loading them on to a second...

I don't know, but I do know that someone on a Norwegian forum got confirmation from Tesla about a week ago that his car was loaded on to HORIZON HIGHWAY in Barcelona. The car had just been sitting there for over two weeks after being unloaded from GLOVIS SUPREME. I'm assuming that is what...

Very strange if the VIN only appeared now with a delivery date so close. It wouldn't happen to be a Berlin VIN (XP7)? Or is the VIN official and could have been in source code for a while?

Usually a few days after the ship left Shanghai, but it seems there can be some variability to that.

Correction, UECC stops both places. Conflicting information whether HORIZON HIGHWAY stops in Zeebrugge, but if not the cars could be transferred in Bremerhaven. Was unable to edit previous post.

Got a reply now. He was told by Tesla in Trondheim that his car is on HORIZON HIGHWAY. So I would assume that all cars for Scandinavia that were on GLOVIS SUPREME is now on HORIZON HIGHWAY. Guess they could be transferred in Bremerhaven or in Zeebrugge, both HH and UECC ships for Drammen stops...

It seems like she is indeed stopping in Zeebrugge on November 18 before Bremerhaven. https://www.klineglobalroro.com/schedules/1-1_europe_to_north_america_and_mexico_gulf_schedule.pdf

That's odd. I have sent him a PM asking if it was Tesla who confirmed his car was on HH. Something doesn't add up.

Someone in the Norwegian forum had confirmed that his car was loaded on to HORIZON HIGHWAY in Barcelona, sitting there after GLOVIS SUPREME unloaded. Maybe none of those cars are for UK, but it does explain why my car hasn't showed up in Norway yet. I'm now expecting it to be loaded on to AUTO...

Is there any way to see what rolls off HORIZON HIGHWAY? She's docked in Southampton now. Should have picked up some Teslas from GLOVIS SUPREME in Barcelona.

I guess HORIZON HIGHWAY could have some cars for UK too, as she's stopping in Southampton and I don't think we had any video footage of the loading of GLOVIS SUPREME.

Someone in Norway who also had his 2023 Y LR on GLOVIS SUPREME wrote that he got confirmation that his car was loaded on to HORIZON HIGHWAY who left Barcelona November 9, and going to Southampton before Zeebrugge November 18. I'm assuming that applies to my car as well. I was wondering why the...

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You can check that by entering your VIN on https://www.hoeghautoliners.com/my-cargo

It seems there can be considerable variation in when the VINs are assigned, so you generally can't pinpoint the ship from that exclusively. A few days after GLOVIS SUPREME left many got VINs that were removed shortly after. The next week VINs were handed out again, including mine. The reason I'm...

Thanks for the effort. I would think the relevant shipping numbers on Houston would be lower than those on California though, as it must have departed much sooner. What kind of timespan would 12000 numbers cover? It sounds like a lot, but I don't know how many they have in a month.

Is there any way to check for VINs on GRANDE HOUSTON like it is for GRANDE CALIFORNIA? I guess we would need at different set of shipping numbers.

Does your source have any info on the difference between N and P VINs? The new approval v26 (e4*2007/46*1293*26) listed on [Wiki] Model 3 / Model Y - Technische Veränderungen / Details lists removal of ultrasonic sensors, but also a reduction of Technically Permissible Maximum Laden Mass from...

My best guess is that GLOVIS SUPREME is going to continue to Zeebrugge after Barcelona. Based on when I got my VIN and that it doesn't return a hit on Hoegh or GRANDE CALIFORNIA, I don't see which other ship it could be on even though it is a P VIN. On TFF-forum there is a new approval...

MEDITERRANEAN SEA must have left Shanghai in September, before anyone expected any shipment to Europe to leave? It would be very unusual for Tesla to do that, unless the local market was saturated and they couldn't sell the cars in September anyway?

My VIN (Norway) is not, so that strongly suggests it's on Glovis Supreme

So in other words, using VIN to guess build date and which ship a car may be on is more or less futile?

A couple of hours after I found VIN in source code yesterday, Tesla Drammen called me to ask if I was ready to receive the car in Q4. I asked if the car was on GLOVIS SUPREME and at first I got the impression he was about to confirm, but then he said he wasn't able to see which ship it was on...

Mostly model 3 I think, but I think I saw a model Y VIN identified there as well.

Yes, the API says 2023. But No VIN.

Just found VIN in source: LRWYGCEK6PC539XXX. Dashboard says 2023. Did not get a hit on My Cargo, so I assume it's on GLOVIS SUPREME. Still no EDD. Delivery Lillestrøm, Norway (but I suspect it will be changed to Drammen). The link https://www.tesla.com/teslaaccount/oxp-bff-api/user-orders does...

That is correct, but we have seen before that Tesla sometimes uses the other terminals.

Have you checked if it's on HOEGH TRAVELLER?

On Vesselfinder, GRANDE CALIFORNIA is expected to arrive at Suez on October 25.

So that means they will be loading unusually fast?

Koper, according to Mr.M. But he didn't mention if she's expected to unload completely there?

What would be the minimum time required to load a ship with 5000 cars?

On the Norwegian forum there is a spreadsheet, and someone have reported VIN LRWYGCEK3NC47xxxx. This seems more like late August production that didn't get shipped in Q3. So it seems GLOVIS SUPREME is carrying a mix of unshipped August production and early Q4 production. EDIT: Unless it's on...

538XXX is about 90000 over what I think was the highest I saw reported in Q3. That should imply late September production and not unshipped leftover from August?

450XXX was for model Y, I don't remember for model 3.

Model Y or 3? What is the VIN, minus last three digits? I think the highest VIN I saw in Q3 was in the 450XXX ish range.

Not sure if it gives any clues, but around September 28-30 just about everyone in Norway seems to have lost their EDD.

DENEB LEADER is leaving Luchao for Singapore. So a very short stop, like GLOVIS SUPREME. I also noticed there were 3 vehicle carriers at the same time at the dock, I don't think I have seen more than 2 before.

That makes sense, but it seems like something that can be overcome by adding manpower?

If unloading 1600 cars took 6h when deck speed/ramps was the limitation, then loading 5000 cars in 24h should in theory be possible with a few hours to spare provided they have enough people working 3 shifts. If GLOVIS SUPREME is a Tesla charter it wouldn't make much sense to send her on her way...

I think someone tried to keep track of that and found it to be too unreliable to estimate anything. She did spend very short time at the dock compared to ships in Q3, but I think those ships spent unusually long. I'm excited to see if there will be any VIN activity in the next few days. In Q3 it...

What exactly does switching production mean? What is the physical difference between a model Y sold in China vs Europe?

I have been thinking the same, that it would make sense for Tesla, if possible, to put all Norway VINs in Q3 on earlier ships than GLOVIS SUN since it seemed like a close race. But I guess there are many other factors like storage capacity that also will affect that. Not sure if it has been...

That's interesting. I was under the impression that VINs in Q3 appeared in source code shortly after ships left Shanghai, but HOEGH TRAVELLER is entering the Red Sea. If they are not consistent it will be harder to guess which ship the cars are on.

The EDD isn't really something to put any confidence in until you get a VIN. It tends to jump back and forth, and sometimes disappear for a while. It's not that long ago since I had an EDD that ended tomorrow, but my car is still not on any ship and maybe not even built yet.

VIN in source code, or official?

Two ships at Luchao that appear to be for local distribution. I'm starting to think that the cars in the WuWa video were not meant for export after all?

It seems like HEROIC ACE is approaching the anchor area in Shanghai. GLOVIS SUPREME and HOEGH COPENHAGEN are also supposed to arrive there shortly, and a few days more BELUGA ACE. I have no idea how likely it is that they are "our" ships though. I see CHANG SHENG HONG is at the dock now, a...