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Most high end motors do similar.

The HI5N would absolutely dominate an m3P for handling or acceleration, with 0-60 being the only chance for parity for the weaker Tesla, and real world range is very similar to the ev6 GT, which is about 240-260mi. The Tesla probably gets 260-280mi real world, by comparison from what Ive seen...

EV6 GT saw similar. I refused and paid MSRP. Tesla marked their cars up $20k and called it msrp, so there's that.

Evo as and psas4 returned near identical range for me. Both averaged 3.3-3.5 on my daily commute in the summer. The ions werent near as good in the wet.

I ran the car in eco mode and tried to drive gently. I used the seat heaters briefly, but really didn't need any heat. I did defog the windscreen every now and then if it fogged. Basically hypermiled it. OEM rims CC2. Temp on the dash. Note the commute distances and times. Same circuit pretty much.

This covers about half a decade of testing on 15 year old batteries (making them roughly 20 years old as of my last test). Some of this is rather dry, but for people who nerd out and wonder about 18650 and by extension other lithium battery life, it may be of interest.

I took this for you this morning after getting home from the gym. Temp is accurate for the drive. Tires once warm were 34psi front, 37 rear. 32 and 35, cold, respective. Oem rims with cc2s. Tread depth 9-10/32. Roughly 3k mi on them. Drive mode normal. Beginning SoC 80%.

Its been 45-55, and my daily commute is 2.8 or so, on oem size cc2. During summer, ion as suv returned 3.5, as did my psas4s. Upon returning home after driving 82mi, psas4 said 112mi left, ion said 116mi left, or some meaninglessly small difference. (Initial soc 80). During -7-0f temps, on...

This is awesome news! Tesla is learning how to make a proper vehicle, and I can't wait to see the new MYP "Highland" or whatever it will be called. They may earn my business next time around with that one.

I lose about 35% in the cold. ICE vehicles lose about 20-25%. For me "Cold" is about 0*f. I also get near instant heat in my EV. Literally every year my neighbor's group chat goes crazy about "My car/tractor/whatever won't start/stay running/just dies". Never made a post like that myself with my EV.

45 min at one gym, 30 at the other (I do cardio at a different gym), and maybe 45 min at the DMV. Another 30 to 45min was spent at my insurance agent. Didnt list that or the cardio gym stop initially.

Drove to the gym and DMV and home, about 85 miles. I used 64% of the battery to do it. The car was garaged in a 19*f detached garage, and driven into -7F weather, and by the time I was home it had warmed to 9*f. Snowy, hilly backroads, some 70mph freeway for a good bit, and some 55mph rural...

Its saddled with the slow Tesla chargers. But the chargers are reliable and plentiful, so google maps your planned use case and see which is truly better. It doesn't blow other performance EVs out of the water in handling or accelerating. The features are basically good software and thats about...

Those psas4s will surprise you. They're far more capable in the snow than they have any right to be, lol

Missouri. It was 53f on my way to the gym at 8pm last night. It is currently 22f now at 1030am. If you can get an idea of what my local weather is, please let me know.

Ive only droven psas4 down to single digits. They hooked great though.

I've well over 1k miles on the new tires now, and the range disparity appears to have dropped to 7.5% vs the used psas4s.

Well, Ill know in a few weeks, then.

Why? They average about 15mi less range on 80% SoC initial. Thats about 10%.

I put about 200mi on them this weekend. The tires have around 600mi on them at present. It was cold, and my range in the 30-40*f area is usually 155-165mi with the PSAS4's, worn. With these tires I was averaging 140-145mi on the "guess o meter" (which I have tested to be within 0.5% of...

After a weekend, I conclude these cost me 10% range vs. the worn PSAS4's they replaced.

This is my solution, as well.

I have now delved into comparing the two. I put roughly 18k miles on my PSAS4 tires on a Kia EV6 GT, and my findings were that the tires when new would provide a 60' time on dry pavement of 1.86-1.87 seconds. They would provide a 60' time on wet pavement with standing water visible, of around...

My GT offers different modes. It sounds about like that, with Sport vs. Normal changing the AWD (it keeps the front axles locked in Sport), and throttle mapping. Oddly 0-60 in Sport vs. Normal is identical, and then eco, with a much slower 0-60 (mid 7's), and then GT (low 3s). It also of course...

My only issue with it is the low profile tires. I always buy CNA extended coverage on my cars, and WILDLY! the one thing they will void you for is putting non-OEM rims on a car, which would be necessary to run a 40-45 series tire like I'd prefer for my uses. I have seen some 0-60's and 1/4 mile...

A sufficient income will be enough.

In my GT, yes, but I wouldn't want to. The regen is why it has no brake issues. It can brake over 300kw of regen. Kia did amazing with it and it shows in the lap times.

Can you even hear it? Ive run cars that are pretty loud (modded 5.0, Panamera 2.9 turbo, etc) and the only one I really heard was a audi r8 with exhaust. EVs are quiet.

Oh, for sure. Im just saying he invented nothing. He bought it and then hired development. He squeezed out the original talent and took the company over and shaped its culture to suit himself.

Elon is unconventional in that he will "get things done" and he is not squeamish about where his talent comes from. The man is an excellent talent scout and obviously is intelligent, but Elon didn't "make" Tesla. He sought and bought Tesla and its talent. Nothing wrong with that at all.

Why are they hateful? Because we live in a society that has muted consequences. We need to normalize not speaking to each other in a way online that we are not prepared to speak in person, and not to say words or make gestures from behind laminated glass that we are not willing to have in the...

Because of bias confirmation. People believe what they want to believe.

Most people I know who "hate EV's" actually just hate the government's meddling in things.

I dislike 1 pedal and choose medium settings because with 1 pedal, mid corner transitions are jittery.

Yes, I would indeed feel ripped off if the CEO of Kia was like "Bruh! We charged you $64K for a $36K car!" You bet I'd 1) be mad if I had already bought, or 2) not buy that car. That said, we know that Tesla is padded to the gills with profit per car, and it absolutely shows in the total lack of...

Very true!

My experience with 350kw chargers is that even derated, they push 130-150. My ev6 just flat curves that and still does about 20 minutes charge times. My volvo C40 would be 30-35min at full charger capability. Pretty significant. Ive only encountered one ccs charge station that didn't work for...

I have literally never charged at 35kw on a road trip, lol Most chargers are 200-350kw. A 200kw charger will take me from 20-90 in about 20 minutes.

Weightlifting, jujitsu, shooting, night vision, and sleeping.

Again we run into "real world" here with the range... https://www.edmunds.com/electric-car/articles/longest-range-electric-cars.html#:~:text=Porsche%20Taycan%3A%20323%20miles&text=Edmunds%20tested%20a%202020%20Taycan,by%20a%20whopping%20120%20miles!

EV's are luxury cars, is the market perception. They are also depreciating assets. All luxury depreciating assets plummet during times like these, economically.

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The drivetrain in my Kia does not "nose over". It just PULLS. To get that out of a Tesla, you have to spend a lot more and step in to S/X. Also, eLSD is pretty awesome. That's part of why the much heavier EV6 GT outperforms the M3P on the track by a large margin (stock for stock). The Biermann...

1) You have a valid point about drivetrain and years in service. That said, it doesn't seem to be everything. https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-halts-deliveries-of-german-model-y-performance-due-to-rear-motor-defect-192163.html 2) Software...I want the software to run the car, which it...

Tesla does have the best charging network. It will be opened up to me next year. That said, I charge at home 99% of the time. I much prefer the drivetrain in my Kia to anything Tesla has until we get into the S and X. But that's another price tier up. Software...in what way is Tesla better...

When the world pays my bills I'll care. I just want accurately represented products. Tesla needs to do that for me to consider them when I replace my Kia. If not, Ill buy another HMG product.

I think the reason people complain about Teslas here is that yours was advertised to get 300+ mi range.

My Volvo would begin a trip with a destination estimate, and it was never more than 2% off. My EV6 GT, not quite so good, but at least it will account for recent driving activity and update as I go. The Tesla accounts for and adjusts for nothing, as I understand it.

Yes, this is due to the increased drag of the EV6 vs the MY, but also consider the Kia makes 576hp and the Tesla significantly less. I don't know how or if that affects efficiency.