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    Discussion: Model 3 and Y price drop Jan 2023 / April 2023 / Oct 2023 and All other Pricing Speculation going forward

    You've written "Yeah, we are on the brink of a major collapse" and "at a certain point the party crashes." I've understood that to mean that that "certain point" will occur in the next 12 months. Have I understood you correctly? If not, pls give a rough estimate. Also, what metrics do you...
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    Discussion: Model 3 and Y price drop Jan 2023 / April 2023 / Oct 2023 and All other Pricing Speculation going forward

    I too am "unqualified" to talk about this topic so I look forward to rereading your post in 12 months.
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    THINGS I DON'T MISS ABOUT GAS VEHICLES

    Took delivery of my MY last March. The one downside of never needing to go to a gas station is a dirty windshield. But, I think I'll live with it. ;-)
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    Tesla replacing ultrasonic sensors with Tesla Vision

    YES!! That's what I liked about my Rolls. ;-)
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    Tesla replacing ultrasonic sensors with Tesla Vision

    Now, it is just my opinion, but it does seem to me that this Vision thing needs work (shoe size is US 8.5). If I park there the garage door barely missed the rear.
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    iPhone ringer volume turned all the way down

    Thanks for the suggestion to read the manual. It can't find where it addresses the problem: Every time I get out of the car the ringer volume has been turned off. It seems you know where the manual answer this problem. Would you be so kind as to show me. Thanks Here's a little more info...
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    New MYP 2023 questions: Calendars, iPhone 14 Pro volume, Bonus: wireless controller

    My two week old MYLR gives me the same problem. No solution found yet. iPhone Pro 14/iOS 16.3.1.
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    iPhone Ringer Volume Set to Low by Tesla

    I've had my MYLR for two weeks now. Every time I exit the vehicle the ringer volume on my iPhone has been turned down to zero.
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    iPhone ringer volume turned all the way down

    Yes, i have the same problem.
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    MAR2023: My Experience Driving 1,367mi Down Into California and Back

    Thanks DB for your answers. Agree that most of my driving is local and so range will have no influence on the pleasure of driving my MYLR. And when it comes to road trips, I usually have flexibility to leave earlier so as to accommodate the idiosyncrasies of an EV.
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    MAR2023: My Experience Driving 1,367mi Down Into California and Back

    Give me an effin break pal. Who are you to say these things to me. Boy, I thought this was a nice group. If you disagree, just say so there's no need to try to insult me. Plus, did I bring up Musk? No, you did! Musk has nothing to do with this. He doesn't run the EPA or dictate their...
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    MAR2023: My Experience Driving 1,367mi Down Into California and Back

    "We need better general public education about the use of EVs." The EPA is the place to start. Their apparently unrealistic estimates generated under ideal conditions is the first source of the "general public's" misinformation. I bought my MYLR last month with the understanding that the...
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    Northern California Waiting Room

    The torture of constantly shifting EDDs has finally ceased. Picked up up my MYLR on Monday at Fremont. No problems identified while at the factory but found four (hopefully) minor ones after arriving home.
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    OD: 1/13. EDD46: Mar 22-28. After being inside three different delivery windows and having to cancel three different trips, the torture MAY end soon. Got VIN yesterday. Pickup will be at Fremont. The Tesla App now reads, "Make Your Final Payment - Pay remaining balance now to avoid delays in...
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    Northern California Waiting Room

    EDD46: Mar 22-28. After being inside three different delivery windows and having to cancel three different trips, the torture MAY end soon. Got VIN yesterday. Pickup will be at Fremont. The Tesla App now reads, "Make Your Final Payment - Pay remaining balance now to avoid delays in...
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    Northern California Waiting Room

    Its bullshit "all the way down."
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    Northern California Waiting Room

    All of us... people that have already received their cars aren't here... they're out driving around ;-)
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    Northern California Waiting Room

    A question for those who have received their cars and are still watching this forum, where did you pick up your car? For some reason, my order indicates home delivery. It would seem a Fremont factory pickup would better ensure a delivery in March. The SA though suggested three weeks ago not...
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    Northern California Waiting Room

    Here's a Mar 11 Bay Area delivery 9,114 of an Austin car.
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    Northern California Waiting Room

    That SA has no clue ... See my post 4,434 in response to someone who implied that if he owned Tesla he'd prioritize deliveries by OD.
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    Please ask you wife when I will get my car. Thanks. ;-)
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    Northern California Waiting Room

    FYI... I didn't see this delivery on this thread... 8,928
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    "I worked on carbon reporting software for years and companies have to ensure that there's not double coverage of GHGs. it's literally a science to track all of that data that goes well beyond what I can fathom. I'm definitely an idiot, but the ownership of emissions and delineation of who is...
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    Yes that's correct. But add up all the states and you still come up with only 20%.
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    Households such as yours are a tiny fraction of the US population, 8% according to a Pew study. More to the point, per the EPA, renewable energy generates only about 20% of all U.S. electricity... https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3 So, any model that assumes that 90% of an EV's...
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    "if you were able to charge the vehicle from an outlet that gets its power from at least 90% renewables, the carbon break even point is 8000 miles" I'm no expert, but "at least 90% renewables" seems unrealistic.
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    Yes of course it is more complicated that just margins and revrec. For just some of the complexities, see my post 4,434.
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    Is the SA’s manager bullshitting me? For background: I have canceled three business trips because of Tesla’s constant EDD shifting. My EDD window has changed 32 times in ~43 days and I’ve been inside the window period 31 days across three different EDD windows! Northern California Waiting...
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    "Don't really understand how ppl with similar configurations and same or later order dates are getting theirs delivered when we live right next door and still don't even have a VIN assigned." There are two reasons: The first is about margins. You (and especially me) have ordered what are...
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    Northern California Waiting Room

    Feb 28: EDD Feb 28-Mar 12 Mar 01: EDD Mar 01-Mar 12 Mar 02: EDD Mar 02-Mar 12 Mar 03: EDD Mar 03-Mar 12 Mar 04: EDD Mar 04-Mar 13 Mar 05: EDD Mar 05-Mar 14 (Still no VIN)
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    Northern California Waiting Room

    Tesla told me in a text.
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    Northern California Waiting Room

    For those that can, it is applicable to most public companies, IMO. There's also the accounting/delivery trick of revenue/earnings smoothing but I think Tesla wants a home run this Q.
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    Northern California Waiting Room

    OD: 1/13, Bay Area. On Feb 21 received the infamous "Great News" text VIN expected to be assigned in 1-2 weeks. After this torture chamber, 7,111, the flogging persists: Feb 25: EDD Feb 23-Mar 5 Feb 26: EDD Feb 23-Mar 5 Feb 27: EDD Feb 23-Mar 5 Feb 27: EDD Feb 27-Mar 12 Feb 28...
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    “It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest. We address ourselves not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities, but of their advantages” ;)
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    "Growing pains," now that's the first time I've read that euphemism for "catches fire and burns your house down." 🤣 #7,413
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    No joke. Every Chevy Bolt ever built was recalled in 2020 after they started catching on fire. Read this Car and Driver article: “Chevy Bolt Battery Recall: How Could This Have Happened? — A full explanation of the problem causing every single Bolt EV to be under recall for a potential...
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    SA says there's no problem with the order and VIN should be assigned soon. But of course, I've heard that before :rolleyes:
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    I figure Bay Area orders are generally the last to be fulfilled in a quarter for revrec reasons. I'm fine waiting, its the teasing (torturing?) that I don't like.
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    Even before the contingencies you list, there are some manufacturing, margin and FASB accounting fundamentals a car company considers. See my post #4,434. For comic relief see my post #6,701. And, like me, I'm sure you're happy to not be dealing with my the guys in my post #5,252
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    If you want a real challenge, create a visualization of my ever moving EDD: OD: 1/13 OEDD: Jan 18-Jan 30. And then... Jan 21: EDD Jan 21-Jan 30 Jan 22: EDD Jan 22-Jan 31 Jan 23: EDD Jan 23-Feb 1 Jan 24: EDD Jan 24-Feb 2 Jan 25: EDD Jan 25-Feb 3 Jan 26: EDD Jan 26-Feb 4 Jan 27: EDD Jan 27- Feb...
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    Now I know why my EDD keeps changing... I think I see my car at mark 1:21 :oops:
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    zroger73, Mainuh "That said, the whole process is so vastly better than going to a dealer and playing the "ask the manager" game, back and forth. Then see the finance person for the additional sales pitch and lies." Yep, listen to this podcast for an actual behind-the-scenes look at your...
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    Your reviewing tech was right, "Teslas are decades ahead of their nearest EV competitors in EV tech." But Tesla is also years ahead in just plain building a car. I recommend you watch Sandy Munro's teardown videos. Here's his playlist of the MY teardown: . A couple years later he tore...
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    If you can ignore the fact that Chevy recalled every single Chevy Bolt they ever made -- twice -- then the Bolt is for you. Just kidding... there are no good alternatives to the MY.
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    For anyone interested in the ID.4, here's a list of Sandy's teardowns: https://www.youtube.com/@MunroLive/search?query=id4
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    @tsnorcal... same here. On Jan 20 EDD 10-day window slipped day by day for ~25 days. Then I was inside the 10 day window by 5 days and suddenly the EDD changed to Mar-May2023 on ~Feb 12. OD is Jan 13.
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    Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023

    I'm thinking this clever solutions will work ;-) Is there any reason why this remote does not work inside a Tesla?