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I understand. I went through a buy back last year with my previous 2023 MX. I had totally thought the lack of smoothness was because of the 22's then so I got an MXP with 20s wheel wise. Otherwise I like the car and there is just really nothing else out there similar to it talking about...

I can totally understand the sickness part, have had it too. The ride with the Michelin PS AS4 is definitely smoother. The 2023.44+ update also helped somewhat - note I have a 2023 MXP but my previous 2023 MX also had the same vibrations. Having said this, I am trying really hard to live with...

Well I have a 2023 MXP and it is available to me. I had the same issue that I never had the "Upgrade" button in app, but the steps I posted worked after trial and error. Make sure you delete ALL phone keys from the car before following them, and when pairing the phone key to the car you allow...

Non-tested releases? lol!!!!!

According to the release notes UWB is available worldwide.

It is for me (but wasn't before) after I went through the steps I posted:

Wonder if it is regional. I am in the US and the steps I posted work for me - I tried them again to be sure. I am on 2024.2.3 with a 2023 HW4 MXP, iPhone 14 Pro with 17.3.1 iOS and 4.30 Tesla app version. Be sure to allow the app to always know your location, without allowing it when it asks...

Yes there is no upgrade on the screen since there is no key yet to upgrade - it configures it as a UWB key from the beginning.

So I was able to make it work. While in the car: Deleted phone key from car Deleted app from iPhone Installed app on phone again and opened it - logged in. App will then ask to pair it as a key. I allowed it to always know my location when it asked and then it asked permission for nearby...

Somehow I never get a prompt to enable/upgrade phone key inside or outside the car. This is with a 2023 MXP with HW4 running 2024.2.3 and the 4.30 version of the app on an iPhone 14 pro with latest iOS. From screenshots I have seen there should be an upgrade button in the home screen of app but...

Not sure where to begin on this one but will take a stab at it. First of all a lot of people lease for tax reasons, possibly a business, where leasing is much easier accounting wise VS a purchase. So certainly leases have benefits for some to consider. Additionally, if you want to drive a new...

Were you riding with me? lol You are spot on. I only drove it for 15-20 minutes though and need to test the startup more. 30-50, greatly reduced to the point that it is really hard to tell. This has been my major issue since I usually drive in the city at these speeds - pretty happy about it...

And my 2023.44.1 is finally downloading now! Won't be able to test until later today but looking forward to it. I have all vibrations possible from every thread ever included on this site including startup that goes away, 30-50mph always, 70+ mph steering wheel and I am sure there are more - lol.

Yes, because I got 2023.38.9 just a week ago. Before I was on 2023.32.9 since mid October. I seem to be getting the versions when they have completely matured.

Did not know - thanks!

Have never tried FSD and have no desire to do so. Nevertheless when I got the MXP end of June, the car came with a 3 month free trial that was extended for an extra 3 months. So, even though I have not activated FSD I have the subscription until end of December. This is the only reason I can...

How is that considering I still get no update? lol

Many of us have received no update, thus no joy to share. I am stuck on 2023.38.9. Makes zero sense why it would not be pushed to all plaids when there is a TSB out for a while. And I am not on the "special" FSBb branch.

Have you received the 2023.44 update? Wonder if it made any difference for others as I have not received it yet.

Thank you. I guess that is good - really wonder how they pick who gets new updates, especially when it is supposed to contain a fix described in a TSB specifically for plaids and have been waiting forever to get. Are there any others are still on 2023.38.9 or older?

I don't know if 2023.44.1 has FSD. I am on a 3 month trial for FSD that came with the car and then was expanded for another 3 months. So my trial ends end of December. I have never used it nor enabled it but I am still stuck on 2023.38.9 which stinks since I cannot test if 2023.44.1 fixes any...

Are you normal seat vibrations between 30-50 gone? Happy with it now? Update still not available for me so no first hand experience yet - I just got 2023.38.9 a couple of days ago.

Should we start tearing up? This is my thread from the MX side - have been battling these vibrations with my MXP for months now and have been through alignments, multiple road force balancing sessions, and sets of tires from different brands until was told a software update is coming up to...

Yes it is on thousands of cars already.

So with 2023.44.1 out, has anyone received it? If so, have you noticed any difference? I am stuck on 2023.32.9 since mid-October and not sure why :(

Yay! I hope it makes a meaningful difference when we get it.

Just to provide an update... 2023.44 is definitely an OTA update and service centers cannot do anything about it. I had a service appointment that included the TSB and we just have to wait for whenever it is available. Per service center, guesstimate is that it will be available in the next...

I appreciate the post but curious how noise is related to the vibration issues discussed in this thread?

Yes, but it may take another month or so. 2023.32 was first seen in public on Aug 27th, but week 32 was Aug 7-13. I didn't get it until mid-September. Same with 2023.38, was first seen in public Oct 3rd, but week 38 was Sep 18-24. I bet most didn't get it until mid Oct, and personally I still...

I seriously doubt it has to do anything with the tire pressure. For me reducing tire pressure actually reduces vibrations and roughness and have played with the range of 40-45 cold. 42 is the sweet spot for me and they get up to 45 warm. Note this is not with the garbage Continental tires that...

Yes, it seems that if you look at the TSB, the instructions for the service department to update software say "refer to Service Manual procedure 00020003; Model S, Model X". So procedure 00020003 is to go to software and see if there is an update available for the car - LOL! It doesn't seem...

Well, I guess there is a service bulletin about this software update now, it is Plaid specific. I am assuming this is what the service centers are referring to. Only thing is that 2023.44+ doesn't seem to exist yet and seems to be only during acceleration. The yoke vibration I get is at constant...

Does this mean that a software update exists but it is not an OTA one and has to be applied manually? I was told the same, that a future software update will fix the vibration issue and it is caused by uneven torque distribution. They did not know when it will be available though. Let us...

I have tried that but it did not work for my HW4 MXP. I believe the video is for an HW3 MX but have not been able to find the correct cables to tap into in the HW4. On the other hand I only spent 10-20 minutes trying. If you are successful let us all know!

I feel the same feedback too, as if all road noise is passed to the yoke. Turning at lower speeds sometimes feels like the yoke is bouncing way more than it was with the 22" wheels my previous MX had - this has 20"s. Accelerating hard it feels that the yoke is also bouncing somewhat. I wonder if...

Totally agree, and a $110k+ car for many of us.

I have the same issue at higher speeds - 65+ - since I got my 2023 MXP with 20"s about 3 months ago. I have changed tires twice, road force balanced multiple times and did alignment. The issue persists and I was told the same, that a future firmware will fix it and that all MXs have it more or...

Just open the falcon doors and apply a generous amount of leather conditioner at the pleather that is at the bottom of the doors all the way around, where if they were closed, you wouldn't see that part from inside. BTW, it seems to be getting better and now I don't have to apply conditioner...

That is awesome, but unfortunately I do need all season tires. Beyond the occasional snow, we have many days of under 40 degrees weather. So the service center says that the steering wheel vibration at 65+ is a known issue that will be corrected with a future software update and all have it...

Love them! They made the car MUCH more planted, much less road vibrations (running them at 42 PSI cold - under the recommended 45), and it is just a completely different drive. Still doesn't match the smoothness of something like the EQS but I was surprised how much better it is performance and...

Yes, I think a 108+ load index would be more appropriate, plus I think it may not be the best idea to mismatch speed ratings (Y vs W). The 265 is not XL load range.

Yeah, unfortunately not available.

Unfortunately the Michelin's are delayed to next week so installation has been rescheduled to next Wed. Diameter of all the tires is the same though, which would make the sidewall exactly the same, possibly more or less curved. You can add them to the compare feature Tire Rack has and see. Am I...

Yes, I have already ordered the Michelin Pilot Sport AS4, and they will swap them out. Falken has a 30 day trial run. Still have to pay labor/installation costs but at least I am getting the full price of the Falkens back.

Well just found out that Falken offers a 30 day trial run so I will be reimbersed for their cost minus installation. Not bad if anybody else wants to try them!

I beat you to it - ordered 4 and getting them installed this Friday :)

And since I just got the Falkens, Michelin decided to make the Pilot Sport AS4 available for our 20"s !!!!

Quick update about the Falkens. I had mentioned that there was a humming noise and major steering wheel vibration coming from the front. I took it back and they tried to road force balance all the wheels again. They found out that they couldn't balance one of the front tires. How they were able...

After the 3rd failed attempt to repair the issue I mentioned to the service advisor that they really need to buy it back. He brought it up with the center's manager who started the process. Took about a month for approval and a couple more weeks for the transaction to be completed. My issue...

Lol - thinking more about it will answer both since they are related! Buying an MX is like playing lottery. This is my second 2023 because the first one was bought back after issues that couldn't be fixed. Great that it was bought back but so much lost time at service centers and stinky loaners...