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So .... why is it that other higher power AWD vehicles don't end up getting this vibration .... that ought to be the real question.

pffft ... no wonder musk got the heck outa dodge ... thugs marking their drug sale territory all over the fencing. They'd best put those power lines underground to thug proof incoming power or else that place will be inoperable in no time flat. .

Mystery: certainly the Range Rover has less torque than the X. Still, you can have the Range Rover SUV air jacked to max height, turn hard, go straight, whatever .... & the shudder NEVER OCCURS ... year after year. Yet tesla 'cures' the problem by preventing you from performing hard starts /...

stainless stamping has been done successfully - decades before Delorean ever thought of doing it. running the dunes near pismo beach in the early 1970's - some folks had stainless jeeps even back then. aluminum is no harder to form than stainless.

Zombie thread - true - but 72 amp charging (X & S only) changes like so many other tesla features. hear today & gone tomorrow. Currently (no pun intended) it's offered again as of this writing. What's nice about 72 amp is that it's reasonably quick if you're going to go home for an hour then...

YAY ! ! ! The loss of silver? This was my bitch-fest, not too long ago - maybe 4 or 5 months ago . . . . https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/anybody-miss-teslas-silver-paint-option.282596/ Squeaky wheel is finally getting some grease. ;) .

Probably the same as many of us that read the thread . . . . .b & this from a long term stock owner (roth & 401k). After having both an X & S - and still LOVING the tesla efficiency & considering the Y - but not until our present non-tesla cars' mileage gets too high. What does touting one's...

6 guage works fine for our 5' run to an 80amp breaker, tho we seldom charge @ 72amps. .

4680 isn't the whiz bang chemestry that it was hyped to be. iow, other formats have greater kWh per weight than the alternative chemestries. So buy the car (or not) for what you perceive it to be. ;) .

you buy the car be cause you NEED it to be high an many circumstances - yet they fix it disabling one of the very feature you buy it for. Nice. .

Funny. I - and many other owners found the Range Rover to be very unreliable in many ways. Even so, we never got a shutter out of the shafts - even after 100,000 miles. Considering how much extra high the suspension can be driven on them - that's quite remarkable that Tesla can't figure it out...

the nature of mankind; .

REALLY? Didn't used to be that way. Our brand new face lift style 2016 MS was 60kWh. Software bumped up a year later to 75. It (was) a service then - not a tangible property. Been a while since doing Calif BOE tax issues ... so maybe there's been a different ruling in the mean time.

Same failure consideration with the huge amount of torque that happens when you punch it really hard.

by the time we switched from our. 2016 MS to the 2018 MX, it was gone. No more silver ... never mind the gray leather & perforated/vented leather & working sunroof. sellers remorse. anyway - when you see so many silver cars running around the landscape you'd think it would be popular enough...

mileage? .

So .... back in 2018 when our X was in the shop (after waiting for 4 weeks - falcon door calibration fails) - we tried to determine how many SC's (not mobile units) there actually are. Of course there are TONS more Teslas on the road now ... so if SC's haven't increased equally per volume ...

was the cost somewhere between 2X & 3X as much? That seems to often be the case.

Our 2016 (grey leather - done away with ... silver paint - done away with ... sun roof - done away with) S that we sold to a person with daily marathon length drives - theoretically - by next year - may have driven it into the ground by that same 2nd owner. wondering how many other of those...

It certainly can't be half shaft issues. Tesla said they solved that a half decade ago. :rolleyes:

Some states don't sales tax cars. In those states, just contract to sell from ordering person, then do the swap. That way, no double car sales tax. Not perfect, but a decent work around ;) .

Jeez - even our Plugin minivan has cooled (AC) ventilated seats. Our 2017 Model X seats were just air vented, but it went away (Tesla rep said) due to costs/problems. Wonder if this new method will ever actually hit the market. Or - will it be like the already long forgotten liquid cooled...

Tesla ought to update their order page then.

it used to be (maybe still?) that you could deliberately cause your car to freeze out new updates. tap for the update to start - then contrary to the instructions to NOT turn your car on - you do it & drive around the block for a 10 or 15 minutes. that's how we kept on V7 for a long time -...

Rather than update old MCU's - the other alternative is just buy a new car with all the latest & greatest software / Hardware. Then wait a couple years until it toO, no longer gets service due to future upgrades ... then repeat. ;)

Small cars? Heck, they can't even get chips for their big cars much less the cybertruck or roadster. So Don't hold your breath for a ride with MUCH smaller margins.

BlackVue is definitely one of THE best dash cams. That said, it was pricey to have our dual channel BlackVue set installed in our 2017 MX. These suckers run HOT due to their compact size. On the BlackVue tapatalk chat board, the Blackvue comments are often about excess heat. That heat, along...

it's pretty simple as to why they did it. Charging really really fast and charging to a very very high capacity means your battery will lose capacity faster. That might bring about a valid warranty claim. You can understan once the "follow the money" principal is applied. it wouldn't be...

Couple years ago we took our adapter into 2 different SoCal SC's to flash an update. They told us in so many words that they weren't aware the adapters could be flashed. After looking into it, the 2nd SC did the deed, which allowed us to use CHAdeMO's that had stopped working. Wondering if...

Toyota is releasing their smallish sized "BZ" series SUV EV. China told them if you don't make us an electric, then take your sales and get out. So yes they had to capitulate. Doesn't mean it won't be a great car. doesn't mean it'll be more efficient than a comparable model Y either. Asian...

(tech mental thoughts) "jeez ... we disappoint owners that pay 3x as much as you m3 owners ... whadya expect!"

Jeeeez . . . . what was it, 2 years ago? or 3 - where Tesla saying "we got it fixed". Yea, the real question is - will they change out the screen, once the mickey mouse fix doesn't work.

Sandy Munro = a mixed review, so far.

Being ~125 miles from the closest Chademo station (nw Montasale now days - we're going to put ours up for sale

it didn't look near as goofy in person. Plus the color was relatively unique. it was just such a head-scratcher not spotting it someplace a whole lot closer to its production point, where one would figure most of the employees & insiders might be. It felt like spotting a cyber truck in...

In the Wild ~ oddly enough, as I've followed this thread several days, lo and behold . 100's of miles from Nowhere - Northwest Montana - over 150 miles from the nearest DC quick charger. Kalispell Montana. Set between the old down town stores .... some of the old town buildings erected in the...

they say the electric Mustang is behind production, even before chip shortage. They are to double now the pick up production? Double D seriously decreased chip shortage quantity? Or are there previously claimed number. We'll see.

looking at the wrinkles in the passenger seat leather. Tesla really needs to work on this. Our Lexus was 10 years old when we sold it and its leather was still more tight than that.

the visual ?!? what about which cylindrical cell type are the modules made up of.

more? some entire states don't even HAVE 3 supercharger locations ..... iirc Hawaii & AK have none! closest to us in Montana? 120 miles suck it up ;) .

what do they say? rtfm? ok in practice, many don't. this is why numbskulls crash on autopilot. Fail to read important stuff. In any event, & after i DID rtm ... and then i PRACTICE ... one can quickly pop the door speaker cover off .... and WHADAYA know ... a manual, humanpowered, just...

why not extended side cameras . . . . . true - hauling is a 'drag' (pun intended) but regular &/or extended(able?) side cameras couldn't hoyt. .

When? right after ICE auto fires per million miles are subjected to the better stats of EV fires. ;) Be assured - Tesla (having a vested interest in the possible outcome) would be right there anyway to protect their back side - rightfully so. .

avatar doesn't show front of your car (same color we had on our 2016 S75 ... which we bought as a 60, then upgraded to avoid sales tax ;) ) Reason i mention the front (side) of your car is because there was an upgrade that year. Your price will depend on whether you have AP1 or AP2 - as the AP2...

No wonder the USA is in chip shortage disaster mode. ;) .

i'll be there to out bid you ;) tesla won't sell, unless it's integrated into PV. we just want to re-sell our cheep power back to the utility during 'demand-use' ... at the obscene rate of 88¢/kWh. A powerwall will pay for itself in no time. .

if buyers bought it 1/2 decade ago? Plus the boilerplate back then? non-delivery could certainly apply. .

load a 5th wheel - then check the range - especially on the hit & miss SAE QC DC network.

There's a thread somewhere here on TMC that lists how many of these dramas were done by drivers arrested for DUI / DWI. It makes one realize how many folks must be hitting the weed / booze / pills prior to jumping into the driver's seat (or in dire need of getting some rest, other than while...

Really? I checked google maps for my closest Rivian service center. Nation wide? zero. How long has it been tesla have been building cars & yet not all states still to this day, don't have a single SC? As for charging - folks are lucky to find ANY locations that have more than a stand along...