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    Got the dreaded "battery charge level is restricted" message yesterday

    Mine's an original A version. VIN is P064xx
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    Got the dreaded "battery charge level is restricted" message yesterday

    Got the same message today. Feb 2013 P85, with 53k miles on it. Car had been sitting in my garage plugged in for the last 2 weeks while we were out of town. Called Tesla, and apparently the car started logging errors about the main HV battery the evening before we left. They're arranging to tow...
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    Dual motor vs. RWD in winter driving.

    P85 owner with lots of long distance snow driving. Car has dedicated snow tires. Its done very well. In the summer, its got 21" turbines with Conti Sports on it. Winter, 19" Rials with Dunlop Wintersports. The car feels very stable and predictable in every winter condition I've had it in, from...
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    EVTripplanner Accuracy

    I think EVTrippanner is pretty good, but I use the car's trip planning and then use the graph in the Energy App. (Set your destination using the nav app, then click the energy app, and click the trip tab above the energy graph.) We have a 218 mile trip to the closest Supercharger in the...
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    Escaping from a Jetta TDI to MS60

    Congrats! You'll love it! We sold our 2011 VW Jetta Sportwagen TDI in June 2015 about 2 weeks before the whole dieselgate event broke out into the open. Before we even knew about any of that, we had decided to purchase a fully loaded CPO 2013 P85. Jetta sold in mid-June, we picked up our P85...
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    Drivers seat a tad loose

    We had an issue with our driver's seat similar to this. I don't know if its the same issue or not. Our seat seemed just fine, never felt loose or anything. I was loading something long into the car and was standing in the rear seat area helping guide the object into the car when I bumped the...
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    Used a Supercharger for the first time

    We have a CHAdeMO adapter, and we actually took delivery of it before we took delivery of our car! In the past year, I've used it maybe 15-20 times. Around here, they are a bit more numerous than Superchargers, and so they are handy, given where we drive. And sometimes, they are in a nicer...
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    Critique My Strategy: Blindly Buying the Base Model

    Clarification: Navigation (Turn-by-turn) is standard now, so you can dismiss my suggestion earlier. This was not always the case. It used to be part of the "Tech Package". Maps were always available. The only reason I pointed this out earlier is because I got a loaner once that did not have...
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    6th drive unit replacement and more

    With 5 DU replacements and a 6th coming, it definitely sounds like Tesla is trying. If they were "not willing to apply the same fix" to your car, for whatever reason, I highly doubt they would even bother replacing the DU at all. Your comment makes it sound like they are choosing to ignore any...
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    Critique My Strategy: Blindly Buying the Base Model

    We were in this boat last year. My first new and "nicest" car was a 2011 VW Jetta Sportwagen TDI. I've wanted an electric car for ages and figured I'd be waiting for the Model 3 for a few more years. Then Tesla announced their Certified Pre-Owned program. We started looking and comparing CPO to...
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    Used a Supercharger for the first time

    We dove into the deep end of the pool with our first Model S road trip. We picked up our P85 last year at the end of June, and embarked on a planned trip from Bend, OR, out to Newport, OR on the Oregon Coast for the 4th of July holiday to go camping with family. After that, we would drive down...
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    You'd think buying a home from a Tesla owner would be easier...

    I think the point is that regardless of your car's battery size and state of charge, if you plug it in overnight, it will be fully charged in the morning plugged into a 50 amp circuit. Unless you drive 200 miles before lunch and need another 200 miles before dinner, the 80 amp HPWC isn't really...
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    Experience in Portland, OR?

    I've had great service and attention to detail from the Tigard Service Center. They have consistently always kept in mind the distances I need to travel in order to make it there (180 miles from Bend), and they've always made sure I have an adequately charged loaner to get me home again. They...
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    Eugene Oregon area owners

    Nbryce, Tesla is having an event to celebrate the opening of the new Supercharger here in Bend this coming weekend. I'm planning to attend as well as a few other Model S owning friends. Should be interesting. If you can make it, look me up. I'll be in a pearl white P85.
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    Fatigue vs gas cars

    The thing that I think helps the best is the Supercharger stops. Gives us a great chance to get out and stretch, get something to eat and just take a break from driving. Overall, travel time is longer, but I do arrived less fatigued. Another benefit is reduced wind noise. We drove from Central...
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    30% Tax Credit for HPWC?

    I got both a federal credit as well as a state (Oregon) credit for installing a new feeder and sub-panel along with 2 NEMA 14-50 outlets last year. I'm thinking of doing it again this year and buying the new HPWC.
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    Is buying a Model S still worth it?

    I've wanted an electric car for ages. I typically keep my cars a very long time, and when my first car (a 1985 Volvo 740 wagon that my parents gave me when I graduated college) died in late 2010, it was too early to go electric. The Chevy Volt was just being released, but wasn't available in...
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    CPO purchase, Help?

    We purchased our 2013 CPO P85 last year. The car was in Cleveland, OH, we are in Oregon. All together, it took a month to get the car once we had paid our deposit. I think the logistics of getting the car from OH back to the west coast was a bit tricky. They ended up shipping the car back to...
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    Concern Over Increasing Wh/Mile

    If you are pre-conditioning the car without it being plugged in, it will show a higher wh/mile since last charge.
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    CPO purchase, Help?

    VIN P064xx and we're very happy with our Feb 2013 build quality, and the Service Center has given us full support on every fit and finish issue we've raised. We passed 32,000 miles a week ago and currently no squeaks, rattles or other noises. Not saying there hasn't been early build quality...
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    Interesting finding about Range Mode

    Range Mode is what gets me to and from some of my further flung project sites in Eastern Oregon where there are limited charging options. When you're driving 180 miles out to some remote town and have to spend time on the only RV campsite with a 50 amp plug just to get home again, you become...
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    Tesla Supplies

    Here's my supplies: In the Frunk: An old furniture moving blanket (quilted, usually used as padding for cargo, can be used to keep warm in emergency) Front license plate. In the glove box: A roll of toilet paper that fits in the space where the j1772 adapter goes. Tire pressure gauge, pencil...
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    NEMA 10-30 advice please!

    J1772 does not default to a 30 amp (24 amp limit). I've seen J1772 chargers from 240v 30 amps all the way up to 240v 80 amps. As FlasherZ says, the J1772 has a communications channel incorporated that sets the charge limit. The charge limits for the different shaped NEMA plugs are based on the...
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    Pics: Dirty Model S

    Ah yes, the red volcanic cinders of ODOT, I know that well. My pearl white P85 becomes pearl lava white in the winter...
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    Pics: Dirty Model S

    Christmas trip from Central Oregon to Central Utah this past winter:
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    Retrofit Bumper and LED

    I'm a bit interested in doing a headlight swap. My thought is that it would be technically possible to do, but how much Tesla will play along with it, I'm not sure. I'm thinking the adaptive lighting is CANBUS controlled. Our 2013 P85 has cornering lights (which are additional LED lights above...
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    Getting thru chain control without chains

    I have been cleared through chain control checkpoints on I-80 in Tahoe driving my 1985 Volvo 740 wagon (rwd) with Michelin snow tires, as well as my 2011 VW Jetta Sportwagen TDI (fwd) with Dunlop snow tires. Both cars were equipped with tires bearing the mountain/snowflake symbol shown above. I...
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    Handling at the Limits: 19" vs 21"

    I think the 70D did better in the snow than I expected because it was AWD. I was very impressed with how well it handled the conditions. Where safe, I did push it to see how the car behaved, and the traction control nannies definitely chimed in and modulated my ridiculous throttle inputs... I...
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    Handling at the Limits: 19" vs 21"

    We've got 21" Turbines with Continentals on them for the summer, and 19" Rial Luganos with Dunlop snow tires on them for winter. On dry pavement, I've noticed less traction on acceleration with the snow tires than the Contis, which I would expect. Particularly, if you give the car a kick while...
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    Loaners now speed limited?

    Every loaner I've driven was limited to 80 mph. I'm not a speed demon, but where I've discovered the limiter was passing slow moving traffic on 2 lane highways. I live 180 miles from my service center, and the route crosses the Cascade Mountains. Its all 2 lane highways and you'll often...
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    Best Jack for Model S

    I'm in a semi-rural area and drive through remote areas frequently and this was of concern to me as well. We got a set of snow tires on wheels for the winter, and whenever we go on a long trip, I'll toss one of whatever set of wheels we aren't using in the back. For the jack, I got this...
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    Air Shocks Post-04/2015?

    I have a Feb 2013 P85 with Bilstein air suspension.
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    Dual chargers

    Still working on it. I'm hopeful we can get it set up in the coming month or so. Just got the electrician's bid and there were some issues with it (like them including the feeder and 100 amp service, but excluding installation of the charger). Be careful with the Redmond to Baker run. Google...
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    What happens when an OTA update fails...

    I had an OTA update fail last year on my 2013 P85. The center console wouldn't come back up initially, and I got a error in the dash saying the update failed, contact Tesla. The car still drove. I contacted Tesla and we went through a couple different reset options and got the center console up...
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    New Member, need CPO price advice please....

    P85s and P85+s haven't been made for a while, so you won't find any as Inventory cars.
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    Model 3 sold me on Model S

    My wife and I were waiting for the Model 3, as we didn't ever consider being able to afford a Model S. Then Tesla opened the CPO program. We found several cars that were much less than what we expected. Our primary car was a 2011 VW Jetta Sportwagen TDI. I found out that the Model S has just 3...
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    Advice or recs for a Tesla Newbie

    I have. Plugged into a dryer outlet at sis-in-law's house, ran through a window and across a yard... Also would have used it camping with brother-in-law, but he wouldn't let me unplug his RV, so I had to make do with a 50' extension cord for 120v charging. 3mi/hr baby...
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    Dual chargers

    Sounds like a good plan. The lower speed limits in Oregon (and the fact that most Oregonians drive slower than the limit!) definitely helps squeeze range out of our kwh! I'll let the folks at the Grant County Chamber know people are worried about stopping off in John Day because of their...
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    New Member, need CPO price advice please....

    Pricing is take it or leave it. Upon delivery, take note of everything, from scratches on the wheels to interior wear. Tesla may chose to replace those things if you ask nicely. Also, ask about when the annual services were performed. If the car did not have its annual service done before you...
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    Dual chargers

    Just an FYI: I'm working on a brewery project in the town of John Day, OR (about 70 miles north of Burns), and Tesla has approved our project for up to 3 HPWCs. Those won't be active until later this year, however my client is also on the local Chamber of Commerce Board and I'm currently working...
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    Is there a trick to plug in Level 2 charger with the Tesla adapter provided?

    Also, be aware that the charge port will "lock" itself after a certain amount of inactivity, preventing you from plugging in anything. You sort of need to juggle opening the charge port door, getting the adapter out, activating the J1772 charger and getting it plugged in before the charge port...
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    But Officer....I was going WAY below the speed limit!

    Something like this recently happened to me in a loaner 70D driving down I-5 in Oregon. I was in a 50 mph zone and the car told me the speed limit was 85...
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    Folding Mirrors?

    Gut feel, seat of the pants engineering answer: Folded is worse than not because the car was designed to have the mirrors out at speed. If they're folded, the aero shape is at an angle to the wind. Easy experiment: Drive 70 mph with the mirrors out. Fold them in. If wind noise gets louder...
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    Dayton-Albuquerque round trip advice?

    If you can charge your car overnight (on a 208v or 240v outlet), it will save you charging time in the evening or morning. Charge to 80% when you go to bed, and when you get up, you can use your app to raise the charge level to 100%. That gives you some time to get packed, get breakfast before...
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    used p85/p85+ vs used 70D

    I'm the owner of a 2013 P85 that we purchased last year through the CPO program. It was loaded with pretty much every option available in Feb 2013 except the rear facing jump seats. We love it, and I'm thrilled about the warranty, which we have used. We just had a loaner 70D for 4 days and...
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    How does Tesla compare with an AWD car in snow

    Last week our P85 was at the service center for its annual service and some warranty work. We have it outfitted with 19" Rial Lugano wheels with Dunlop Wintersport 3D studless snow tires. Our service center is 180 miles and a large mountain range away. To get there, we had to drive through a...
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    MS traded in at local Land Rover dealer; good price?

    Yes, powerful RWD cars will get tail-happy very easily. This is an RWD thing, not a Tesla thing. Stability control will get you so far, and after that, physics takes over. I've learned to give the go pedal some respect with our car. Its even more pronounced with snow tires. I'm looking forward...
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    MS traded in at local Land Rover dealer; good price?

    I have a 2013 P85, no AP. These older cars have the same firmware as the newer cars, but we retain the older circular speedo/energy disk in the center. After just completing 500 miles in a 2015 70D loaner, I prefer my older display, particularly on cars where AP is not enabled (such as on this...
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    Should the door handles present when pressed on the back doors?

    It works on my #64xx P85. Note, as others say, the car must be unlocked for the rear handles to present. I find this useful if we're loading or unloading things out of the back, but the side doors have retracted their handles due to inactivity. Pressing any side door handle (front or back)...