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    MSLR 2023 Winter and Hill Driving Review

    Great to hear that. I'm definitely surprised how much better the car is than what I thought were pretty well grounded expectations after owning an older S. This is definitely a very different car in cold weather and high altitude conditions.
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    MSLR 2023 Winter and Hill Driving Review

    Drove from the Bay Area to Lake Tahoe this past ski week with the family and 2 small/medium size dogs and a bunch of cold weather gear (sleds etc). Here's a quick review of the experience. tl;dr - the car did extremely well with both hill driving to altitude (8200ft) and weather (15 degree...
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    California DMV - Plates & HOV Stickers

    The current burgundy as well we the prior two generation (green and yellow) stickers run through Sept 30 2025. That's a fair bit of time. https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/resources/fact-sheets/current-clean-air-vehicle-decal
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    California DMV - Plates & HOV Stickers

    CAV decals appear to take 3 months to process. 9/2023 purchase, got plates first week of October and applied, got burgundy stickers last weekend. I expected to get the hideous green ones but am happy I got burgundy.
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    To upgrade or not

    Ambient lighting ? I wish they'd just let us display the trip card and other features that used to be possible to show on the fronl dash, not on the main display. They've curtailed the set of information that could previously be shown on the front dash. It's a sign that even spending on S/X...
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    I can't decide!! Used S vs new Y

    Went from a 2016 MS with coil to a 2023 with the latest air suspension. The most notable thing is that my spouse no longer gets motion sickness on hilly roads. She *does* get motion sickness from sport or insane mode acceleration, which is why I didn't bother with the Plaid.
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    Keep 2016.5 90D or move to 2023 LR?

    I sold my 2016 75D for a 2023 LR. Total all inclusive cost was in the low 50Ks thanks to the price I got for the old car. What I like about the 2023: * Vastly greater range, excellent combined consumption close to rated range. * The ventilated seats and far better climate control * Air...
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    MS Plaid vs Taycan vs EQS

    Having owned two Model Ss across close to 8 years now, and having put ~110000 miles on them, my view is that range anxiety is not a function of just range - it is a function of two variables - the available functional range and the ubiquity of the charging infrastructure. If your car has ~350...
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    Tesla offers to transfer lifetime free supercharging to new vehicle

    I sold my 2016 75D with FUSC last month, ordering the new S the day after the price cuts. I had SC01 and premium connectivity. Tesla offered 14K trade in for it. Carvana etc were ~18K. I sold it for nearly 30K private party. The two main discerning buyers both knew about and wanted to confirm...
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    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    Interesting. Looking at the Torklift site, the pre-refresh cars get two hitch options - 1.25" and 2". The new refresh only gets a stainless steel 2" option, which is what I have. It came with a SAE grade 5 bolt for the receiver.
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    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    I had the torklift hitch installed on my 2023 MS this weekend too. Anticipating potential tailstrikes, I took off the receiver except for when I need to use it. I also found it concerning that there's just that single bolt, but I expect to have the receive on only during summer months in...
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    Differences Between Mid-2018 Model S and Mid-2023 Model S

    One of the most interesting personal observations after a month of ownership is hill driving. My spouse is prone to motion sickness. To the point of needing a break to throw up roadside on occasion. This used to be fairly routine and anticipated in the past. Didn't seem to help even if I babied...
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    What's your S 75 range at 90%?

    Miles. I have no idea how to price it anyway. On FUSC cars, it does not display the prices - it always shows $0.00 worth of charging anywhere.
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    What's your S 75 range at 90%?

    I sold my 2016 75D last month. It had 107000 miles on it. Original HV battery and DUs. 90% was 207 miles 100% was ~230 miles The same figures at the time of purchase were 232 and 259 miles respectively, meaning under 12% degradation. My charging practices were to typically charge to 80% or...
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    Roof rack vs rear hitch rack for bicycles

    Ouch. How did you install the hitch - I didn't have one on my old car and am yet to scope out how to go about doing so on the new arrival. I'm handy enough around cars, having worked on my E39 but am careful about fiddling with a brand new car's panels.
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    Roof rack vs rear hitch rack for bicycles

    For those of you who've installed bike racks of some kind on your Model S, what led you to choose what you did - either a roof rack or rear hitch mounted one ? Considering one or the other for my new 23. The factors as I understand them are: Roof + Easy to install + Rack alone has...
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    Tesla drops prices on X/S $20k. All colors free. Bye bye resale

    Haven't they already done that ? During week 1 of the price cut they offered a $1000 loyalty discount on top of the price cut - and I got that. Now it's apparently just $500. A few anecdotal points: * I ordered the day after the price cut (9/2). I got the car within a week (9/9). I was the...
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    Liftmaster and Homelink

    I had Homelink program flawlessly on both my cars. I pointed the remote at the 'T' in front, with the frunk shut. Most recently, I did this two weeks ago with the new car. I also kept the button pressed on the remote for ~10-15 seconds until the lights blinked.
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    Delivery MS 2023

    Mine had the PPF film on the rear flares too. Admittedly I didn't notice them on my car during the pick up inspection two weeks ago - it was essentially flawless. At first glance when I finally noticed it last weekend, I thought I'd been keyed by a very careful vandal who marked very straight...
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    Final Trade-In Offer 25% Less

    Thats right, they farm you out to a bunch of local Acura and other dealerships - at least thats what happened to me here. Some convenience value, but its just a glorified trade in process.
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    Final Trade-In Offer 25% Less

    Just sold my old '16 two weeks ago, days after picking up the new 23. Tesla's trade in value was a laughable 14K. It ultimately sold for just under 30k to a PP buyer for. Carvana etc were just under 20k, but I ultimately sold at the upper end of KBB excellent range via PP. For a much newer...
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    Differences Between Mid-2018 Model S and Mid-2023 Model S

    Yeah the 'energy tach' wasn't worth much more than the coolness factor, but I always found the trip card useful, able to modulate my driving to keep to the ~273 Wh/mi that corresponded to 100% of rated range, something that wasn't too hard to hit during long drives, except in cold winter weather.
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    Differences Between Mid-2018 Model S and Mid-2023 Model S

    Update on differences between a 2016 and 2023 after 2 weeks of owning the latter (and managing to sell the former within a couple of days of picking up the new one): * Getting used to the higher standard regen. I find it better than the one in the old car; it makes for much more effective one...
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    Wiki Model S Delivery Update

    It’s really interesting how the order to delivery time has evolved the last two weeks. In my case: Order date: 9/2 VIN date: 9/6 Pickup schedule comms: 9/6 (for week of 9/11, requested weekend) Pickup date: 9/9 (car was a 9/2023 build) Order config: MS LR Blue/Cream/19”/steering wheel...
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    Unable to make it to Kettleman on Performance Model Y (from Fremont to LA)

    Getting to Kettleman from Cupertino in my old 75D wasn't such a big deal. Yes you want to avoid really going hard, but I was keeping up with the flow of 70-72mph in Chill Mode with a family+dog on board. I used to start with 95% (about 220 miles then) and get there with 15% or so. Keeping up...
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    Differences Between Mid-2018 Model S and Mid-2023 Model S

    I have a steering wheel and it is heated. The owner's manual climate control section states that the yoke is heated too.
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    Differences Between Mid-2018 Model S and Mid-2023 Model S

    19”s. Only ever had the stock 19”s on my two cars - the first with coils. I keep my suspension in auto as well, on the new one. I haven’t driven it enough in each mode to really opine. The coils on the old one were fine, nothing fancy.
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    Differences Between Mid-2018 Model S and Mid-2023 Model S

    Both the trunk and frunk are shallower in the 2023 than in my 2016. I looked it up: 2016 Tesla Model S/Cargo volume 26.3 ft³, 60.2 to 63.4 ft³ with seat area 2023 Tesla Model S/Cargo volume 25 ft³, 64.6 ft³ with seat area The higher volume with seat down is probably on account of the...
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    Differences Between Mid-2018 Model S and Mid-2023 Model S

    I just sold my old 2016 last week for a 2023 LR. Here's a summary of all the things we noticed. 1. Right off, wife said she MUCH prefers the new seats on this car. She was never a fan of the shape of the old seats and complained of neck pain on it. The new one took away all of that - 10...
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    Wiki Model S Delivery Update

    When I ordered on 2/9 , the estimate was 'September/October'. Nothing ever changed about that. But I got the VIN on 9/6 and they texted me soon after to prepare for delivery during week of 9/11. I requested a weekend delivery so family could be present, and they offered me 9/9. All the while...
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    Will/Can Plaid Prices go lower? (Considering ordering,, or wait?)

    > The referral money is only $500 now instead of $1,000 When did that happen ? I ordered 9/2 (an MSLR) and got the $1000 loyalty discount.
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    Model S on order - VIN assisgned est delivery 9/26 - 9/30

    I got an email when the VIN was assigned, for both my cars. This time though, the email didn't state what the VIN was. I could only find that on my Tesla account or within the app.
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    Wiki Model S Delivery Update

    The Tesla buying experience is minimalist, like the car interiors are. It's not the Porsche European Delivery experience or anything remotely like it. At the Sunnyvale delivery center, half the place was under construction and the waiting area didn't even have a functional water dispenser. If...
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    How to display trip/energy on front display ?

    Thanks! Yeah I get the feeling the M3/MY based focus on the main display has resulted lesser investment into the UI/UX of the front display. It's certainly a step back for me to not have the trip card, something I'm used to always seeing. Hopefully this will change in a future SW update.
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    New built car has 71 miles on odometer

    There's a sticker on your driver side doorjamb reporting month and year.
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    New built car has 71 miles on odometer

    Back when I got my first MS , it sounded like conventional received wisdom that the cars came out of Fremont with 50 miles on the odo. That’s what mine had , and it pretty much rolled out of the factory. My current car came with 15 miles on the odometer. As far as I’d assumed, that’s the new...
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    Wiki Model S Delivery Update

    I got it within a week of ordering - ordered on 9/2 right after the price drop, delivery of a 9/2023 build with my chosen configuration on 9/9 .
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    Model S on order - VIN assisgned est delivery 9/26 - 9/30

    MSLR, 19", Deep Blue Metallic, Cream/Walnut .
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    Model S on order - VIN assisgned est delivery 9/26 - 9/30

    Mine is an MSLR, not MSP . Not sure how much of a difference that makes to assembly line scheduling. 19", deep blue metallic but cream/walnut decor. When I went to pick up at Sunnyvale, I was the only MS buyer in the lot. There was one MX. Both these cars had the 'privilege' of being covered...
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    Model S on order - VIN assisgned est delivery 9/26 - 9/30

    Yes, the car was delivered in Sunnyvale CA maybe 10 miles from Fremont, and I do believe you're right in that the S and X are produced only at Fremont. I admit I was surprised how soon the VIN assignment and delivery was - I thought they assigned me an older inventory, despite my declining...
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    How to display trip/energy on front display ?

    This question is specific to the current MS . My old MS with AP1 and the portrait oriented 17” used to let me configure the left or right side of the front display to instantaneous consumption trip data. I always found this useful . It was my default view. I also found the tire pressure view...
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    Wiki Model S Delivery Update

    Nope, it seems fine.
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    Model S on order - VIN assisgned est delivery 9/26 - 9/30

    Ordered on 9/2, got ViN on 9/6, car delivered on 9/9 despite the original estimate of end Sept/early Oct. The car was a 9/2023 build so it was not an inventory assignment. In comparison my last car took the whole of a month from order to VIN and subsequent delivery at the factory.
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    Wiki Model S Delivery Update

    I picked up my 2023 MS to replace my 2016 one, which sold within a week to a private party two days after I picked up the new car. The new S is a fresh 9/2023 build . Amazing how much things have changed since 2016.
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    Remove Free 3-months FSD

    Basic Autopilot has always been called Autosteer-Beta in the menu as far as I'm aware - that's what it also says on my AP1 car, which only has basic autopilot. The new 2023 says the same thing in the menu.
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    Wiki Model S Delivery Update

    Presumably valets all knows this and no one hands back the key card saying "Sir, sir... we need the car key, not your business card".
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    Wiki Model S Delivery Update

    Doesn't Tesla offer two key fobs with new Model S cars anymore ?
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    13% Degradation for 2017 75D at 84,000 miles

    It's in the ballpark - I'm at just under 12% after 107000 miles.
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    Need some guidance on a Tesla S

    Indeed. Mine was replaced in our garage for ~$280 all in. It's fast. I've only ever needed the drivers door one done - the rest are fine on my 2016.
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    Sold 2016 75D with AP1 / MCU2 / FUSC / 107K

    Thanks for all the input on this process @gillmj24 !