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Argh, stories like these give me doubt of buying a model X as well. Unfortunately, you're not the only one with these issues. Two of my colleagues have 13+ visits in a year. Sad.

Interesting. Good to see competition. That video was way too long for the content given.

Hmm, odd. I have Homelink both on my MS and MY cars, and both "auto skip" occasionally. I'm just trying to understand the circumstances which it does it. Tthe fact that you guys "never" seen it makes me think something is off on my end. But, for both my cars to have this issue is certainly weird.

Does anyone know when homelink will auto skip? I never want it to autoskip unless I manually press skip.

It’s been out of stock for awhile. The fact that it’s no longer listed on the website isn’t a great sign. What’s a good or better product alternative?

Odd. I got my vin today but now my edd went from July to October?!

Same. I hope it stays!

I don't get the EDD algorithm. I ordered 5/15 and my EDD still says September. I do see earlier EDD for later order dates. Is it based on location in CA as well?

Was September a week ago, then switched to June 24-30, now back to Sept. So odd.

Walnut Creek store is the worst.

Same here. Since I need a car by Aug, I've been looking at e-tron as an alternative.

I think people consider it (albeit quickly), but are OK with the risks. Their quality control is pretty poor, but it appears to be (mostly) cosmetic for now.

I heard the same.

I think it depends on where you live. Here in the Bay Area, you can find even lower rate for 48 month term loan. Usually local federal credit unions have the best rates.

They know another customer will accept the car. They don't care.

I get you. There is certainly a sweet-spot to buy. If you don't need a car now, then I think it's worth waiting for the next gen MY. The other sentiments that you'll be always be waiting for the next best thing is valid, but really more so for the other models.

Are there plans for the rear windows to be laminated as well?

So undecided on this one. Need your help. So, we are thinking about getting trading in both cars to get either M3 and MY or two MYs. There's obviously a price difference, but wondering if there is any good reason to get a M3 over the MY. Better handling maybe?

HEPA would be fantastic, especially with all the smoke and particles from all these CA fires!

What are the ridiculous expectations? Tesla attracts people who enjoy the cool and latest tech. Fortunately, the quality control for most tech products out there are pretty tight. Now extend that expectation to now a $40-50k product and comparing it to the QC of other car companies, I think...

Sort of validating what we already suspect. Tesla knows that poor build quality has minimal impact on US sales.

Agreed that it won't impact directly. Might as well as wait since we're so close.

Thanks my man. I do appreciate these reviews/posts. It helps other potential customers from the headache. I'll wait couple more months.

When is it safe to order/accept deliver a car then? Next quarter or next year?!

Is it possible to buy a SR model WITH AP? I don't care for FSD right now, but really like the AP feature. Am I forced to go SR+ if I want AP?

Anyone with a '16 MS that has success with the express lanes?

There are a few threads about where Fastrak works, but I don't see a definitive answer. I'm constantly getting charged for using I-580 express lane even though I have Fastrak Flex set properly at "3". It's mad annoying. What's the proper placement where the Fastrak will be read all the time...

The browser is too slow. It's unusable. I wished Tesla would fix it.

I was there last weekend, the expansion chargers weren't there. Also, I experienced super slow charging, ~110 mi/hr max.

I'm not sure if that is 100% accurate. Nobody wants to buy older generation smartphones. I guess you can find someone, but it'll be at severely reduced price. It'll be a similar situation for Tesla's. I'm sort of envious of people with AP2.

Would it better to upgrade my S60 to S75 battery, if I plan on selling and trade-in? I thought less features would minimize the amount lost during the sale/trade-in.

At least for me, the problem is fixed when my car got upgraded to 8.1 (17.11.10). Unfortunately, that's the only improvement I gained from the update.

I totally agree. But, I sort of gave up hope on any substantial improvements for the car.

At least for me, I find lane detection far worse than 7.x auto-pilot. 8.1 maybe marginally better than 8.0. The long awaited update has been a disappointment so far. At least they fix the bluetooth connection issue.

Of course. I get pissed every time I encounter this problem when I get in my car.

Anyone find lane detection worse now, especially on slow speeds, like 20 mph. I'm on 17.4.14

We're just guinea pigs for model 3 customers. Sis saw one in LA last week. It looked fantastic.

My car got updated to 17.3.2, and I still have the bluetooth audio problem.

So jealous you guys have Spotify. I fear that we will never get it.

I have the exact same problem. Took it to service, and they say it's a firmware issue after 8.0. Although my loaner car never had the issue.... I have my doubts it'll be fixed any time soon.

I agree. The car seems to have problems with staying away from semi's. Auto pilot feature should be renamed. It's deceiving. It's all about setting expectation.

Spotify Use Google Maps or Waze for Navigation Allow sideview mirrors to auto-open when driving faster 20 mph Fix bluetooth connection a2dp

I used to consistently get 211, now 209 or 207. It's been almost three months of daily driving. Charge 100% every other day.

Thanks for mentioning this. I thought it was isolated to my car. I stream everything from my phone, so this problem is particular annoying.

AP is cool and i use it daily. But it's really not "auto pilot". Far from it. Useless in the rain. Can't handle curves at moderate speeds, take exits. Constant nagging to keep your hand on the wheel.

Not having BSD in our cars is one of the biggest drawbacks of MS. It's pretty weak IMHO.

I feel your pain. It happened to me as well. I use auto-park after each update, hoping for an improvement. Unfortunately, I get upset and feel dumb to expect something different.

Tesla's AEB feature isn't reliable as well as the blindspot detection. To the OP, congrats on the new car. Lincolns are nice.

I think the nags are definitely worse in v8. I get it quite frequently in bay area highways at cruising speeds. Stop and go traffic is less so.

I get the same random album art when i listen to NPR on my phone as well. Very odd and unrelated album covers show up.