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Yeah there's absolutely no truth to that. Elon cannot help himself if he can say something to PR/market something that doesn't exist. He's done it for over a decade in all companies. That's how he raises money.

This whole thing is fabricated complete nonsense trash. There's not one true statement in this tweet. Dojo has contributed approx 0% to FSD. Anyone who regurgitates "Dojo" just shows how clueless they are.

That was bad. If Tesla did that, we would say it was bad. It entered the roundabout at the wrong time and didn't wait, then it got stuck and white car had to avoid it.

Ppl still use this fake two sentence report as FSD safety data. Really? Two sentence report? Should every industry start using two sentence report when releasing their safety data? You Tesla fans are amazing.

No because a combination of Camera/Ultra Res Imaging Radar/Lidar would still be orders of magnitude better, safer and have unlimited ODD at that point. While vision only would be limited to sunny, light rain, light fog, light snow, etc.

FSD v8 - 2020 FSD v9 - 2021 FSD v10 - 2022 FSD v11 - 2023 FSD v12 - 2024 FSD v13 - 2025

Elon musk: “v13 is robotaxi”

I'm surprised that the US delivery for Polestar 4 is happening so soon (this year) but just as I suspected, the Polestar 4 configuration which is now open for US and doesn't include ramp to ramp highway nor urban just basic LCC/ACC with lane change. Looks like its gonna take them a long time to...

Its well over 250k now and there are hundreds of videos of it on china's youtube bilibili

But they made cars to take advantage of Electrify America? What's said in the public for PR is different than what actually happens in deal making. I would call that refusing. But licensing is not one-sided as you portray and its definitely not the party who is looking to license that is...

Just because Elon says something that sounds nice (especially like you said when no one had EVs), doesn't mean that's what Tesla actually does. "Ford CEO Jim Farley describing what it took to get the deal done. It turns out that Ford CEO Jim Farley had to call Elon Musk to convince Tesla to...

Again nice & cute narrative that Tesla fans would eat up. But these companies were so pained that they signed up and announced from the roof-top with a world wide bull-horn that they are using Tesla's supercharger? Infact according to Ford CEO, He called Tesla's team to use the supercharger and...

Thats even more reason to ask why they not getting any license win? Why is mobileye winning all of them? The narrative is strong and continues... These people don't understand that there's a big difference between allowing your car to be able to fill up at BP or Shell stations at no extra...

You are conflating two things. The Mobileye chip & perception software that are in systems like blue cruise, supercruise 1.0, driving assistant pro, propilot , etc cost around $30-45. Its not the BOM but the cost to the OEM. What however we are referencing to is the full system offering from...

As @EVNow already pointed out, all the possible licensing wins are going to Mobileye. The narrative gets pushed alot that everyone will license Tesla FSD, etc. But the same people don't even know what the current ADAS landscape looks like. So they continue to create narrative like the above...

Yeah he takes the same easy routes so he can get unlimited "zero intervention". When he's in Cali and SF and can actually test the software for real and take it to some places to challenge it. But nope. If you actually want to watch challenging videos from Cali, you have to go to people like...

Waymo does crazy moves. WOAH!!

The whole FSD Beta thing and ppl actually thinking they will be getting an unsupervised system is like volunteering for experimental herpes treatment... Tesla: First we give you herpes. Sucker: And then? Tesla: What do you mean "and then"?

the whole "compute limited" just another PR? We know that the reason LLM and foundational models need so much compute is because they are training models with trillions of parameters that can only run on datacenters and not on edge compute. Tesla FSD on the other hand is using *1-2 billion...

What circumstances is v12 actually driving better than Waymo? Are there any actual legal tangible examples? Running head fast into a situation isn't driving better. This is simply not true, Waymo literally acts like a Uber and isn't route-based. You can go anywhere within its geofence. Its funn...

no urban yet, still just point-to-point highway but with new enhanced LCC for city streets.

wow you were right, it clearly drives better than Waymo

Thats one big glorified AEB train, right @powertoold

gosh she's so clueless!

11 cameras and one forward radar. It actually might be the smallest part of it. What really matters is the resolution of the model you are running, the complexity of the models' architecture and the FPS you are running the model at. Mobileye for example uses older architectures like CNN that...

First promo vid of Mobileye city streets supervision https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12v421r7Ah/

7 years ago they were using 100 TOPs. Today they are definitely in the hundreds of TOPs and maybe up to 1,000 TOPs. But I don't see them being much over 1k. But no one knows for-sure.

I’m aware of that, I was pointing out specifically that SV1.0 has a very low ceiling limit due to its 30tops and the first version of SV that might show up in the US might be 1.0. So it’s almost certainly going to be inferior to FSD Beta. Yes there’s already a SV 2.0 coming in VW/Porsche cars...

SuperVision 1.0 (SV52) has a hard limit due to its compute being 30 tops. Because of that its unable to leverage recent advancements in NN/ML. Its that simple. Even now mobileye is still failing to deliver city SV in one city in china. There is about 37 days before Q1 is over and there hasn't...

No I'm using the figure you used represented in daily driving. Because reminder, these videos are made of daily driving. This includes Mobileye supervision videos in China and Tesla FSD videos in the US/CA. The statistic you gave was "But at highway speeds that would be a MTBF of about 3,500...

Wait so ignore the MTBF based loosely on video footage from their only deployment in China and instead go with a PR marketing number with ZERO basis? You honestly believe they have a safety disengagement once every 3-4 months on the highway? Come on...

Waymo clearly over since v10

But @powertoold told us these were v11 testers?

It still very prominent in self driving. There is no L4 self driving car that doesn't use Lidar. Its advantages still remains. No it hasn't, the advantage is still there. Another point he was wrong in, among all the other points. There are L4 self driving cars in multiple cities, working in...

actually i think we had a talk on this in regards to defining L5. The key word here is publicly accessible. Those private parking lots allow public access so that's why Waymo can drive onto them (Walmart, Target, Costco, CVS, Restaurants, etc). Driveway are not publicly accessible.

Why do you think that this is likely?

Interesting how these "bad drives" with multiple safety disengagements only happens when he's riding with another influencer. Or rather they HAVE to posted because its a ride with another influencer.

True there is a clear improvement on comfort and driving style. But the issue is that the Tesla faithful don't see it as that. As usual on the eve of every new version they proclaim it as a "Technological breakthrough on scale never seen before. A game, set, match!"

Done what exactly? Achieved L5 or L4 or L3 better than a skilled human driver? Or is it that they can now handle all DDTs such as obeying hand signals and handheld stop signs, respond to emergency lights/vehicles? stop for school bus stop sign? reverse? 3-point turns? consistently perform...

Its amusing how the goal post on Waymo have continually shifted since 2018 and for Tesla, it has shifted to the other side (Who cares about L5, all i want is a good L2 and I'm satisfied). Even the Tesla gawd Andrej Karpathy says he uses Waymo exclusively to go anywhere he wants in SF and gives...

haha you will never see it. The same is the case when he tweets "FSD was beyond terrible today" but you would never see these "terrible" videos. Only when he's driving with another youtuber where he is forced to upload. You're better off waiting for the wide release to get a better picture of...

Its amusing to see Andrej describes Waymo as "general and scalable" when for years Tesla fans have been proclaiming from rooftops that waymo is NOT general and NOT scalable. That Tesla FSD is the only thing that is general. I wonder what these same people are saying now?

All that just from a single video of less than 5 miles by Omar of all ppl? Ask yourself how many serious safety disengagements from v11 has Omar posted? How many near miss accidents has Omar ever posted from October 2020? Most people who post as much video as Omar does, have posted maybe...

Yup this is usually the case for all TSLA content i see. They start from the conclusion and try to walk their way backward, skipping over the part where you actually have to get to a Human level humanoid with similar capabilities and efficiencies as a typically skilled human. Same thing...

Supercruise 2.0 already went away from Mobileye the last time i checked. Anyways you are right that its extremely vague. i posted elsewhere that I believe its 100% a PR move. It just doesn't make sense anyway you look at it. If you say, they did it to merge the brands, then why is it that...

Waymo continues to impress. Obeys hand signals from police

Just like with Tesla FSD, I only count safety disengagement that would likely lead to an accident or a severe breaking of road laws that could potentially lead to an accident. Here is a very recent example of a safety disengagement that I would count. Also in this is the robotic loop like (lane...

No one needs to be fooled. Remember these contracts has clauses on it. For example if I remember correctly, Zeekr has NOT paid Mobileye at all or fully for SuperVision until they actually deliver the full functionalities. So these agreements likely have the same clause that they won't have to...

https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=%E6%9E%81%E6%B0%AAnzp&from_source=webtop_search&spm_id_from=333.1007&search_source=3 All the videos are there going all the way back to July 2023 when highway NZP was released. Register an account so you can watch the videos in good quality (1080p). Also...