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You could always glue your key fob to the back of your phone. ;)

Too close to parked cars, pedestrians, and bicycles for my 12.3.4 taste. On the latter 2 I'll disengage every time. Never felt like I was ever going to hit anything on FSD though - more of a safety buffer. Except, curbing is common regardless of model. Be very careful on both left/right turns...

The app used to tell you this. See Tesla App shows cameras need upgrade on vehicle that has MCU2 and new cameras for FSD Beta?

I'd like to hear how 4-way stops are handled by FSD in Hawaii. Visited last year (no Tesla) and on multiple 4-way stops, everyone stopped and tried to wave the next car through. Apparently it's a thing.

Actually I'm running a sale on shaman services. Only $99/month.

Personally I like it.

Impressive. Raising teenagers?

Someone else said this too, maybe on Reddit. My guess is they are tweaking this download (maybe sub-version) without changing the version number, perhaps grandfathering in cars that had this installation problem. But just a swag. I'd probably risk installing whatever it is asking for in this case.

Just ignore the popup and drive. Soon becomes second nature.

Still don't have to install.

90k on my '17 MS. Leaky shock fixed, faulty mirror fixed under warranty; MCU2 and heater core on my nickel. So far still runs FSD with the big dogs, no interior cam, does 0-60 in mid 3's easily, stalks, and still rides as well as the new models recently test drove. Extended warranties are...

Not sure if we are talking about the same thing but there was an entire thread on this - Any news on 100D uncorking? It was done to my 100. But in this context it's performance, not battery capacity.

Or the new feature specific to Model Y - Full Self Driving Model Y ACTUALLY Seriously Supervised. Or for short, FSD MY ASS.

Looks like a significant drop just released for 2024.3.15. I'm downloading.

Doubt it but also probably would not hurt.

No. You want 2024.3.15.

Actually I don't get this part. Supposedly FSDs learns by watching millions upon millions of right hand turn videos to mimic an AI-generated precise route for the cirmstances. How many of those videos curbed the wheels? Presumably none. So WHERE did it learn to do otherwise? Feel free to...

Does your car or phone tracker show any backwards details?

V11 allows you to choose alternate routes displayed while driving. I use this often to take the next exit or similar situations. On rare occasion it's necessary to cycle through the map display to refresh available routes but I've never had it not give a desired option especially when close to...

I doubt the advertised price includes a commercial FSD license, which I would guess is more than a personal FSD ticket. The $25k, if true, is just for the 3-wheel hardware.

*IF* you have an M3/MY. All MS/MX built before 2021 are screwed. Too bad Tesla cannot build a flagship model that will last more than 3 years.

He didn't specify which year. That's not an oversight. 🤔

Personally I don't believe a word of it. It's not like they have ANY track record of truthful or ethical behavior. But we'll see.

It means software starting with 2024. See TeslaFi.com Firmware Tracker. FSD is apparently not on all software releases. And you cannot go backwards in level - if you are on 2024.8.7 you cannot go to the older version of 2024.3.10 (the latest FSD v12 version). You have to wait until FSD is...

Yah, much slower than the MCU2/AP3 in 2018 M3's.

Like what?

Oops. I think the goal post just moved.

"...different hardware...".Right. So specifically what hardware installed in a 2018 AP3/MCU2 that works in FSD v12 that is different from the same hardware installed on MS/MX in 2021? Why do they think they can make such a silly statement and expect people to believe them? Specifically what is...

True. Sometimes I think they throw darts at a board with software rollout strategies. The "Let's give it to unpaid users but not paid" and "only 2023/2024 cars" in this rollout. Hard to make ant sense in the strategy de jour.

I would not think so. Earlier v12 releases went to '22 MS/MX and to '18 for M3.

This but no idea why. I have not seen ANY tester of ANY v12 being done yet on a non-interior camera car. None. I've asked many people about this and nobody is saying why. That trend continues with the current rollout.

On planet Musk.

I'm driving 120 miles to Cleveland the day before. Not sure if I'll bug out immediately though.I can do round trip on a charge but also many options if needed. I'm hearing these crazy traffic stories too - what they are suggesting sounds pretty far fetched.

Add in an overcast sky as well and it's perfect. Did that last time. Just a quick glance so maybe not too smart though.

Ok. I'd suggest it's own thread for those of us who read the last 1k threads on the topic. Keep this one v12.

When you did want to update was it one install? Or multiple incremental updates?

My 5-mile trek from the local SC home never offers my preferred route, even as an alternative. I pick the one that starts out properly and along route before a wrong turn check for alternatives again. My next preferred turn now shows as an option. I have to repeat that process again another...

There are no 2024 models with FSD v12 yet on TeslaFi. So I believe the answer is "2 weeks" using Elon-speak. But personally I'd guess late April to early May, maybe longer.

Apparently MS's 2020 and older along with MX's 2021 and older are not "capable of FSD" (whatever that means) despite running 11.4.9. Exacrly zero have v12 today. Or maybe he didn't mean v12? What a charlatan! I truly hope people see him for what he is. He is a liar through and through. Can't...

I'm one of the latter group but not on TeslaFi.

Link? If referring to his recent Tweet, he said FSD v12 needed to demo'd to new buyers. Likely a demo car, not the new customer car.

USS is not impacting the v12 rollout. Some early M3's have both USS and FSD V12. I believe it is the lack of an internal camera preventing v12 on those cars for some seriously misguided and uncommunicated reason. I'm not aware of any v12 deployment to cars lacking the internal cam. Maybe...

On my '17 MS with MCU2/AP3 I received 2023.44.30.14 on Feb 15. I've since downloaded but not installed 2024.2.7. I even did a reinstall. Again 2024.2.7 downloaded immediately. And again, not installed. As far as I can tell there are no non-interior cam cars with v12 yet. Not a single one. My...

Anyone without an interior cam get v12 yet?

If this persists and if it were mine I would consider a reinstall of your current software. Once done it should again download v12. Of course, YMMV but there appears no harm.

*2weeks*

So.....he doesn't know? Sounds like our current presidential administration.

Perhaps it's perceived as safer for the initial rollout of such a dramatic change. Would love to hear their tactical planning sessions. It's not like we won't notice.

Although, if TeslaFi is a representative sample, it's just not legacy cars. Also excluded from v12 to date are pre-2021 MS and pre-2022 MX. Isn't that when interior cameras were introduced? I agree, I don't see any connection - only speculation. Maybe the real question is- are there any v12...

A leopard doesn't change his spots. Been there, done that. It's very, very similar to the radio-silence on the camera SNAFU for a couple months in 2020. I'm not a fan of silence on strategic decisions/games they seems to enjoy so much. A 2-line tweet would go a long way. Guess they should...