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    Air fresheners for Model 3

    I’ve been using these for years. They’re pretty cheap and last for months. They can be overpowering, so don’t open them fully. You can usually find them at auto shops, gas stations, drug stores, and (of course) amazon. California Car Scents | California Scents
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    Cost to reserve $6,800?

    Thanks, guys. I thought it was odd too.
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    Cost to reserve $6,800?

    Question for anyone who’s purchased recently. A friend of mine just visited a showroom for a test drive. He was told that to reserve a Model 3, he’d need to put down the $2,500 reservation, then another $4,300 as a pickup fee (which was not a part of the down payment) upon delivery. I didn’t...
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    Phone and Keycard Locked in Car

    If there was one, it would be safe and sound in the purse...which is locked in the car. ;)
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    Bluetooth transmitter than works with Model 3

    Got it. I bought the LeFun T10 about a year ago, and played with a different one as well. It’s an FM one, but honestly, the FM broadcast isn’t that bad - especially considering the alternative of not having music at all. There is static occasionally, but that can usually be remediate by trying a...
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    Bluetooth transmitter than works with Model 3

    Search amazon for “Bluetooth car adapter” and see if any of those fit your needs. But to be clear on your needs, are you saying you have a device (music player, I’m guessing) which doesn’t have Bluetooth, that you’d like to play through your car? If so, there are some that are powered through...
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    Maybe I just have a lower stress threshold than most and don’t let small things like that get to me. Idk. Point taken on the shopping loads. I’ll even give you the use case where you have to put a small child in the car while holding an umbrella. But again, these aren’t every day activities for...
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    The primary reason is because it works most of the time. When it does fail, I try again, bang it on my leg, or take the tiny key out and go about my business. It’s not a hassle. Maybe a 20 second delay. Plus, the dealership will charge $150 or so per fob (plus whatever they quote me to fix the...
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    I’ve tested mine, and it worked through my wallet. Maybe I’m special. Look, I get the inconvenience of having something that should work 100% of the time, but doesn’t. I really do. Those who are having issues aren’t wrong for being annoyed when it doesn’t work. That’s a legitimate concern. My...
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    Isn’t that what the key card is, only shaped differently?
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    One could argue the same for those having phone key issues. If we have a number of people reporting few to no issues, that would imply that the design is not the issue.
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    It is. A phone key that has worked 99% of the time is a big improvement over one that I have to coax every now and then.
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    Precisely. There are a number of potential failure points. For at least 90% of the people here, those failure points aren’t a major inhibitor for functionality. Personally, my experience has been 99% positive.
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    We accept tech to not be flawless because it is dependent upon so many other factors which are beyond our control. In the case of going to a website, for example, the only thing the user controls is the keystroke they type into the address bar. After that, my internet service provider may be...
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    Yeah, I’m lying. That’s it. Because I have everything to gain right? I’m 10-15 feet away from my Infiniti right now, it just took me 3 clicks before the door locked. Want me to video it for you? I’m not delusional at all. I know updates break things. I’ve been working in infosec for almost 2...
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    I’ve had my car for 2 months. The key has failed maybe 3 times. I’ve had cars with fobs/remotes that fail daily - requiring multiple presses to unlock the door. Again, no technology is 100% flawless, so it’s not completely contradictory to say, “on the few occasions.” Again, my experience tells...
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    I don’t know how else to prove it to you other than giving you my experience where when I press the unlock button on the fob, it almost always takes more than one press (Infiniti m35 was my most recent car). There are times where the push button ignition won’t start, requiring me to insert the...
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    *I really wish there was an edit button so I could fix my typos. Dah well. Level setting here - when I say keyless entry, I’m referring to cars where I dont have to press a button when I’m 10 feet away from the car to unlock it (and these usually don’t have push to start ignition). Look at your...
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    Phone as Key Issues

    That sounds like an issue specific to your car and/or your phone. I’d have the service center check it out if I were you.
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    I enjoy that same seamlessness with my Model 3. The phone key works perfectly for me. However, if I knew that it was prone to failure, I’d switch to using my card until the technology got it right. It’s the same whenever there’s any new tech. In most cases, things work as intended; but there...
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    I get it. Some people are having problems with the phone key. Some don’t. I’ve had mine fail 2-3 times in 2 months. In both cases, I hadn’t driven in about a day, and the car was sleep. I’m guessing there’s a timeout built in for security purposes. When I show off my $60k car, I still don’t...
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    But we haven’t moved beyond it if hundreds of thousands of cars every year are purchased without keyless entry. In the 60k plus price range, I’ll ive you that. But let’s not pretend that taking your keys out of your pocket is outdated technology. We’re nowhere near a “keyless” society.
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    Faulty analogy. The backseats didn’t not work; and they re-engineered them to make them better. They didn’t remove backseats completely. Nice try though. Again, peoples’ experiences vary. I recognize that. I also recognize that many of the issues have been related to user error (Bluetooth not...
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    Honda, Toyota, Nissan, and Infiniti. All have required more than one key press on multiple occasions. That, by definition, is a failure. And why is they key card a poor back up? It does exactly what it’s intended to do - the same way that my physical key does on my Infiniti when I pull it out...
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    I agree about convenience, but that’s different from not having an alternative to the phone. Until we got our Model 3, I had to reach into my pocket for my wife’s key to her Honda Civic any time I went to the car. Inconvenient, but that’s the way cars have historically worked. That’s why I’m...
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    Not an S or X owner. Speaking of my lifetime experience with other cars.
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    Here’s what I don’t get about the feigned outrage: you do have a fob that works 100% of the time. It’s shaped like a credit card and fits in your wallet. The vast majority of people in this country who own cars (or are in the market for THIS car) have a smartphone. Should the tech work better...
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    It wasn’t the right choice for you, and you made the most appropriate decision based on the knowledge you had. No one can fault you for that. Two things, though: 1. No technology works 100% of the time 2. Based on the responses to the poll here (which I recognize as not statistically...
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    Of course he wasn’t Jesus, and he made numerous mistakes; but I can see that the point went completely over your head, so let me break it down simply for you. A man who’s company changed the way we use technology once said, “this is how it’s going to be. You don’t have to like it, but you also...
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    Phone as Key Issues

    There are multiple Bluetooth connections made when your phone connects to the car. The one that controls the audio is different from the one that controls locking/starting the car.
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    Tesla backing away from "Phone Key as primary key"

    I’ve never had a key fob to work 100% of the time. My experience is that I often have to press the lock/unlock button 2-3 times for it to do what it’s supposed to do. Even my “keyless” entry on my Infiniti fails from time to time. The only (most significant) difference is that when my phone key...
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    Water dripping into the trunk from the rear glass?

    Pulled into the garage one day after driving in the rain, and all the residual water from the roof/back glass poured right in when I popped open the trunk. It hasn’t happened often (despite the every day rains), but I knew it would be a problem the first time I saw it. As an aside, my neighbor...
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    Issues with firmware 2018.24.8

    Awesome! Glad I could help.
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    Issues with firmware 2018.24.8

    For the window: On my previous car (Infiniti), that happened to me once. The solution was to “reset” the window. I believe it’s a universal fix, and worth a try. 1. With the door open, roll the window completely down. 2. Roll it back up, and hold the switch up for about 10 Seconds after the...
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    Will editing after June affect free internet connectivity?

    Responding to the original question: I changed my mind on color, but decided to go to the sales center/dealership. One of the reps checked and saw that I had an ISA, but no vin yet, and emailed the ISA my question (CC’ing me). My ISA responded today that he’d updated the color on my account...
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    Getting Model 3 reflected in Tesla Account?

    As the others have said, You’ll need to contact Tesla to move it. In the meantime, she can log into your account with her phone, and both of you can use the car without issue.
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    Seat Belt Extenders for Rear Seats?

    Understood. However, simply posting, “not crash test rated,” without any additional context can also lead to someone being misinformed. That’s why I wanted to make sure to clarify why it wasn’t crash test rated.
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    Seat Belt Extenders for Rear Seats?

    It wasn’t crash test rated by the IIHS because they didn’t consider it a true booster seat, not due to any functional deficiencies. It passed all the other regulatory requirements though, which was enough for me to have peace of mind. Well, that and seeing how the seatbelt sits on him and...
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    Seat Belt Extenders for Rear Seats?

    Give the mifold a look. My 6 year old was having the same issue with buckling while in his booster. The mifold takes up less space, and makes snapping in a breeze. It did take him a day or two to get used to threwadjng the belt, but he likes it just fine now. His only complaints are a lack of...
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    Reservation available to configure now, has anyone transferred to another person.

    If no one else has confirmed with you, I’m interested as well
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    Two phones linked to one car?

    Yep. That’s when you use the ICE. The girlfriend doesn’t get to ride in the Tesla anyway
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    Two phones linked to one car?

    Both my wife and I have the app on our phones, and are logged into my account. They’ll show you how to set it up at the service center, but it’s really easy. Once the vin is tied to your account, you log into the app, then press a few buttons in the car. 3 minutes, tops. For your daughter, I...
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    Delivery appointment email and the unreasonable requirements on third-party financing

    My experience with 3rd party financing. 1. Get approved for a loan of $x (I needed the VIN first for my Tesla) 2. CU locks in the loan amount and rate for a predetermined number of days 3. Tell the CU my delivery date and pick up a blank check a few days before. When signing for the check, they...
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    Talking on the phone (in hand/headphones) mutes streaming audio?

    I could be in the minority, but I really don’t think it’s all too uncommon - at least not among my circle of friends/family. Even my wife said today, “why did the music shut off?” Dah well. It’s a minor inconvenience that I’ll have to adjust to.
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    Talking on the phone (in hand/headphones) mutes streaming audio?

    I don’t know how unique it is, but it’s definitely a matter of preference. I’d at least like the option to not have that happen. Since I often travel with my kids in the backseat, I don’t want to hear “kids” music for my entire ride. At the same time, they benefit by having something to...
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    Talking on the phone (in hand/headphones) mutes streaming audio?

    I guess it’s just a personal preference thing then. It makes complete sense to me to mute the radio if I’m talking through the car, but it’s a complete annoyance to me to shut off the music if the phone is in my hand/to my ear. Why should the other people in the car have to suffer because I’m on...
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    Changes to invite priority, now only effected by date/time of reservation

    It could still make a difference with regard to delivery. For example - you're next in line and i'm 10th in line. You and the 8 people behind you will all get invited before me, but if you each want AWD and I want LR, there's a chance I'd still get mine before you. That's assuming they...
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    Feature request for walk away lock - configurable horn tweet

    Could an IFTTT recipe be created to do this?
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    Changes to invite priority, now only effected by date/time of reservation

    Called earlier today for a separate issue, and asked about priority. Here’s what I was told: - in essence, there’s only one “line” now - any new reservations (may apply to current reservations) for AWD or FP are in one line - upon invite, you can select your cofif from there (FP/AWD) - (my...