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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    This is excellent information @jkirkwood001! I completely understand what you're saying. I've actually never used your calculator before. I've been using CIBC's car payment estimator for the last year or so in preparation for this. A worst case scenario being to downgrade to a used care is not...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Thanks @jkirkwood001, I've always respected your feedback and I appreciate more that your opinions come from actual experience. I am not a millionaire. However, I do think I'm doing well for a 31 year old. I purchased my first home at 23, rented it and sold it for 3X what I paid 5 years later...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    I don't think anyone on here is arguing that it's not worth the hype. I believe it totally is. Many peoples issue (mine included) is that I don't keep cars for long. Sure I could SAY I'll have this car for 10 years and it's going to be the best thing on the planet....then the Model Y comes...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    I'm waiting for that last person who actually received a refund to answer my question. How long ago did they cancel? Again, I was told I'd get a cheque in the mail in 30-60 days with the full amount of $4200. I even had her confirm this and she put me on hold for a few minutes to speak to her...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    This is so tough! Honestly, I can totally see both points with perfect clarity. Yes, buyer beware. I do my research before buying a $100 pair of shoes, let alone an $80,000 car. But to @Abrew2014 point - Tesla could have very easily sent out a mass email to all those who purchased with a...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    I think that's only the case if you cancel. If not, it just gets applied to your down payment. Eg. $1000 deposit placed nearly 2 years ago plus the $3200 required to order the M3 = the $4200 total amount for the down payment. I think going forward however the down payment is $5000.
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    This is a fact. I was told by the Tesla rep that they are doing away with all reservations. If you're a day one res holder and order an AWD with all the trimmings, you're going to get it at the same time as someone off the street ordering the same car. Which, in this example is 2-4 months.
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Oh wow! When did you cancel? I did so yesterday and they told me just that - a cheque would be mailed to me in 30-60 business days.
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    I would caution anyone who's on the fence and who truly can't afford the vehicle without the rebate to cancel soon. During my call to cancel, the Tesla agent mentioned that a recent memo changed their policy from "any time, even if you have a VIN" to "you can cancel as long as a VIN has not...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Very kind words sir, Thank you so much and I too hope to one day soon be a happy Tesla owner. If you look a few posts down, you'll see that I reluctantly pulled the trigger and canceled. As cheesy as it sounds - everything happens for a reason so we'll see what the future holds! I fully...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Just got off the phone with Tesla - you can tell the momentum has died off. I called the day the incentive was killed and spent 2.5 hours on hold. Today I spent 23 minutes on hold. I called to officially cancel after going back and forth over the last few weeks. I confirmed that they are no...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Thanks! Calling them now. Don't want to miss out on the ability to cancel.
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    I haven't officially canceled yet but I used to get so excited and even talk to the owners anytime I pulled up to one at the lights or in traffic. Now I'm definitely bitter knowing with almost 100% certainty that I'll be canceling in the next week or two. For my own sanity, I've just been...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Keep in mind the Ombudsman doesn't have jurisdiction over the government. They could absolutely go back to Ford with their findings and Ford could be 100% incorrect. He has the power simply say "Thank you for your findings but I will respectfully stick to my word". I think that's what we're all...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    My best friend works for the federal government. I had mentioned a rebate or incentive and had voiced my hopes and aspirations that if they did create one, that it would be retroactive. He had said there was literally a 0% chance that it would be retroactive. He said there would be no way to...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Completely agree. I'm still hopeful. However, my hope dwindles every hour of every day as I hover over the dial pad of my cellphone ready to cancel. I don't want to be the victim of one of two things: 1) Tesla miraculously does *something* to keep our orders - Offers a discounted price or a...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    I don't disagree that Tesla is being very gracious. They had absolutely no motive to do so and if it were any other automotive company anyone looking to cancel would be in the hole $4200. My point is that they shouldn't have advertised on their site. I guarantee they knew full well that the...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    I'm in the same boat - I'm at about $5,500 annually for fuel. There's not much more I can do to reduce this either. I've gone to a fuel-efficient 4 cylinder, I drive responsibly and I don't drive unnecessarily.
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    "AWD models were never part of the program so no buyer should of expected a rebate on those models." - Tesla shouldn't have listed them as eligible for the incentive then. You'd have to imagine someone who has NO clue that this forum exists or was able to predict any of this. They may have...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Does anyone happen to have the contact for the Ombudsman? There's a general email address online but I'm not sure if it's the one everyone's using. I'd also like to contact them as well. I feel the more people reaching out, the better. Telling them that you're after a refund is a complete waste...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Thanks, voted!
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    I’ll have to cancel. Holding out as long as possible though. Ordered June 27th, submitted all documentation June 28th and now waiting for a VIN. I don’t want to fall into some gap between EHVIP and a Federal program so I’ll cancel and come back when (if) that’s established.
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    I'm sorry to hear @Burlburt - would have been awesome to see yet another beauty cruising the streets of Burlington. Do you plan on ordering again if an incentive is put into place, even if it's not $14,000? Also, what was your config if you don't mind my asking.
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Agreed, I'm in the same position. I can't justify the $14,000 price increase. I will have to cancel my order and go back to the bottom of the list once the Fed's release a tax incentive. My Delivery is set for Sep 18' to Nov 18' so if there are any Angels out there watching over us, please have...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Couldn’t agree more!
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    None whatsoever. I've emailed 3 MPP's and several Ministers. Not a word of response from anyone. Sad state of affairs - I'm holding out another few weeks then canceling if nothing comes up. As mentioned before, I'd rather wait for a Federal incentive than fall into some black hole in between.
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Same position. Ordered AWD on the 27th of June. Thankfully I have a 3-5 month delivery window ahead of me. I’ve never in the last 2 years hoped that Tesla would hit a bottleneck as much as I do now. I don’t want to fall into “the gap” as many ppl have mentioned and lose out on any...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    False, Tesla is offering refunds to ALL Ontario buyers who have paid the $4200. Even if you already have a VIN assigned. (Called last Friday and confirmed after being on hold for 2 hours) This is out of good will. They by no means have to do this, but they’re an exceptional company with a heart.
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    He/she's just not very @adaptabl is he/she?
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    I was essentially told this exactly... Not sure, but someone had mentioned above that they were told they could only cancel if they don't have a VIN assigned yet. I was told that they were sent a memo last Friday stating that they are to allow all Ontario cancellations, even if a VIN has been...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    I called Tesla last Friday. After waiting 2 hours to speak to someone, they told me that as of that morning (Friday July 13th) they had received an official memo stating that they are to allow all refunds to residents of Ontario - even if you already have a VIN assigned. I asked them how long...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Ok...So what about those who ordered theirs when the Liberals were "technically" still in power. That's the questions here. The new government officially has NO power until their swearing In ceremony - Ford was sworn in on the 29th of June. Therefore my (and I'm assuming many other people's)...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    This whole situation is complete and utter BS. I’m disappointed in our government beyond words. Someone had mentioned previously that EAP is essentially “free” to Tesla. I normally wouldn’t agree with this statement as I understand the inner workings of software development and the hours that...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Or the Feds step in with a "No HST" tax break and give Ford the middle finger!
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Emailed!
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    I don’t think people are “blaming” Tesla, and I certainly wasn’t. I know what I was agreeing to when I signed the terms of agreement. I AM holding the government accountable, however. If an incentive is in place when a vehicle is purchased, it should be honoured. Cap and trade has funded the...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    I completely agree. My post was never meant to come off as my expecting Tesla to refund. It was merely a hope, for lack of a better word. I spent an hour an a half on hold with them after posting this yesterday. Tesla is an absolutely fantastic company. Elon himself had apparently mandated that...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    Could people please respond as to why they're disagreeing with my comment and not simply hit the disagree button? I would like to know what was said that you're in disagreement with so that we can have a civilized and informative discussion. Thanks!
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    This would be fantastic. I'd take a $10,400 savings over NOTHING any day of the week.
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    I'm in the same boat as everyone else. Early reservation holder, waited patiently to configure AWD. The floodgates opened and I configured immediately on the 27th. Paid the $3200 deposit and waited. I had hoped and dreamed and wished upon stars that Ford would become too busy with other stuff...
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    Ontario EV Rebates Cancelled July 11, 2018

    I know it's extremely unlikely, however I hope Tesla certifies the vehicle for addition to the EHVIP website. I ordered and paid the down payment on the 27th. If what most ppl are saying is correct and Ford honors all current contracts, all that's left is getting the AWD on the incentivized...
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    Sad news for Canadian waiting to order M3 AWD

    This is true! Once given the opportunity to configure, I may just do that. See how the RWD does in the winter and trade it off next year once the AWD is a little less rare. I feel due to their rarity in the beginning that the M3's are going to hold their value quite well. Especially if you get...
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    Sad news for Canadian waiting to order M3 AWD

    So I click on "First Production" and click save. When I reload the page, it's back to Dual Motor. I've read that this is a bug on the website. But both options still say "Late 2018"...
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    Sad news for Canadian waiting to order M3 AWD

    oh Oh really? Let me check this out! As per the comment below. I May just stick with RWD for the time being if it's available to configure. Worst case - sell and buy AWD when it's more readily available (probably in the next 2 years)
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    Sad news for Canadian waiting to order M3 AWD

    Not yet, I have friends who ordered just a couple of months before I did who have been invited. I also have one friend who's a day-one reservation and he stuck with RWD. His delivery is in a week apparently!
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    Sad news for Canadian waiting to order M3 AWD

    This is a real downer. I saw my first M3 in the wild yesterday in Burlington. Blue with 19" wheels - it was beautiful! I suppose it's time to give up hope in having my M3 by the end of the year. I'm not even a day 1 reservation holder :( I priced out a 2016 Model S 75D at a local dealership in...
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    Sad news for Canadian waiting to order M3 AWD

    Also, here are a few photos from the Oakville dealer. After seeing all of the colours in person - Red and white are by far the nicest! (IMO)
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    Sad news for Canadian waiting to order M3 AWD

    I don’t necessarily agree with this post. I just did a test drive at the Oakville Ontario dealer. First off the lot was full of about 30+ Model 3’s. They explained to me that they’re receiving so many in fact that they’re moving deliveries to a large convention center near Toronto Airport. The...